He did not keep us safe...

At least President Bush didn't release Gitmo prisoners so they could re-join terrorists groups.

Firstly they're not being just flat out released into the public they will face a trial here in America with a jury and all and if convicted (which they all probobly will) they will get sentanced to either death or life in Maximum Security.

Obama is ending more of the torture side of this entire deal. I still don't know if it is the right move.

if they face a trial on us soil under us law the case will be dismissed as their miranda rights were violated and all evidence will be tossed.....

they can not be deported as their home countries do not want them back....

so they will all be granted political asylum....
 
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You really don't improve your argument by calling me names.

So if Clinton had opportunities to get Bin Laden and all this info was out there why didn't Bush put on a full court press as soon as he got into office?

Did he not understand the nature of the threat? He was warned by the Clinbton admin.

Did he not think it was serious because he believed his own propaganda that the Clinton Admin didn't know anything?

Don't forget that 9-11 was not the first attack on the WTC, Bush was forwarned and should have known tohe potential for disaster.

For whatever reason Bush failed on 9-11, whatever he did after can not erase that failure.


good question.....what were richard clarke and george tennat up to for the first 9 months
 
....Claiming that Bush kept us safe after 9-11 is like saying "the Captain of the Titanic never sank another ship"....
You actually stumbled on a good analogy there, since the Titanic disaster was the fault of the builder, a flaw based on crappy design that occurred months or years before thousands of innocents paid for the mistake with their lives.

Are you saying that it was the ship builders fault even though the Captain of the Titanic was sailing at high speed through waters where icebergs were commonly found?

Your premise is faulty, even if an automobile has a mechanical problem which was caused by the manufacturer, the driver is still liable if he crashes his car into something, unless of course you could show that the mechanical problem led to the crash, for instance if the brakes failed.

Whatever the design flaws in the Titanic, the Captain does not get a pass for sailing his ship into an iceberg, and Bush certainly does not get a pass because he never 'sank another ship'.

The rivets on the Ttiatnic were made of sub-standard iron, thus causing the ship to rip apart upon a relatively minor impact. Clinton destroyed the ability of Federal agencies to communicate with each other, and the hijackers trained in the US for years while he was President, thus the ability to detect terrorist movement greatly curtailed.
 
Clearly Bush was ill equipped and under prepared for the presidency and we all paid for his failure.


Looks like history is about to repeat itself.

That's right, what could a Constitutional Law Professor bring to the office of President, other than an expert understanding of how the framers intended the government to work...
 
You actually stumbled on a good analogy there, since the Titanic disaster was the fault of the builder, a flaw based on crappy design that occurred months or years before thousands of innocents paid for the mistake with their lives.

Are you saying that it was the ship builders fault even though the Captain of the Titanic was sailing at high speed through waters where icebergs were commonly found?

Your premise is faulty, even if an automobile has a mechanical problem which was caused by the manufacturer, the driver is still liable if he crashes his car into something, unless of course you could show that the mechanical problem led to the crash, for instance if the brakes failed.

Whatever the design flaws in the Titanic, the Captain does not get a pass for sailing his ship into an iceberg, and Bush certainly does not get a pass because he never 'sank another ship'.

The rivets on the Ttiatnic were made of sub-standard iron, thus causing the ship to rip apart upon a relatively minor impact. Clinton destroyed the ability of Federal agencies to communicate with each other, and the hijackers trained in the US for years while he was President, thus the ability to detect terrorist movement greatly curtailed.

The rivets may have been sustandard but it was the carless captaining of the ship that led to it's demise, if it hadn't have hit the iceberg it wouldn't have sunk.

As for your assertion that somehow Clinton was at fault six months after he left office and Bush was therefore blameless for what transpired on his watch, well it's as silly as it sounds.
 
Are you saying that it was the ship builders fault even though the Captain of the Titanic was sailing at high speed through waters where icebergs were commonly found?

Your premise is faulty, even if an automobile has a mechanical problem which was caused by the manufacturer, the driver is still liable if he crashes his car into something, unless of course you could show that the mechanical problem led to the crash, for instance if the brakes failed.

Whatever the design flaws in the Titanic, the Captain does not get a pass for sailing his ship into an iceberg, and Bush certainly does not get a pass because he never 'sank another ship'.

The rivets on the Ttiatnic were made of sub-standard iron, thus causing the ship to rip apart upon a relatively minor impact. Clinton destroyed the ability of Federal agencies to communicate with each other, and the hijackers trained in the US for years while he was President, thus the ability to detect terrorist movement greatly curtailed.

The rivets may have been sustandard but it was the carless captaining of the ship that led to it's demise, if it hadn't have hit the iceberg it wouldn't have sunk.

As for your assertion that somehow Clinton was at fault six months after he left office and Bush was therefore blameless for what transpired on his watch, well it's as silly as it sounds.

If the rivets had been up to specification the ship would have a dent instead of rupturing. If Clinton had done his job then the terrorists would have been stopped at the airport of before. You can't reasonable expect a president to be able to undue 8 years of Clinton bullshit and neglect in 8 months.
 
The rivets on the Ttiatnic were made of sub-standard iron, thus causing the ship to rip apart upon a relatively minor impact. Clinton destroyed the ability of Federal agencies to communicate with each other, and the hijackers trained in the US for years while he was President, thus the ability to detect terrorist movement greatly curtailed.

The rivets may have been sustandard but it was the carless captaining of the ship that led to it's demise, if it hadn't have hit the iceberg it wouldn't have sunk.

As for your assertion that somehow Clinton was at fault six months after he left office and Bush was therefore blameless for what transpired on his watch, well it's as silly as it sounds.

If the rivets had been up to specification the ship would have a dent instead of rupturing. If Clinton had done his job then the terrorists would have been stopped at the airport of before. You can't reasonable expect a president to be able to undue 8 years of Clinton bullshit and neglect in 8 months.

Nice try, but insisting that if only the rivets... well that's just wild speculation and your attempts to blame President Clinton are just typical blame shifting.

Of course after eight years of a President who in his own estimation didn't make any mistakes who would expect less from his supporters?
 
He did not keep us safe...[/quote]
Why sure he did, i dont recall one single attack after 9-11?.
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I wasn't aware that Bushs' term began on 9-12. YOu mean we were only attacked once. You can blame Clinton all you want, but at least credit him also. We were attacked once on his watch also and there wasn't another attack.
 
Clearly Bush was ill equipped and under prepared for the presidency and we all paid for his failure.


Looks like history is about to repeat itself.

That's right, what could a Constitutional Law Professor bring to the office of President, other than an expert understanding of how the framers intended the government to work...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: He's putting the Constitution in the shredder. Hell, they all have.
 
Hey idiot. ... And everyone also knows Bill Clinton passed on three separate situations where he could have jailed Bin Laden, who was wanted in the US for the 1993 WTC bombing.

When did Obama first become wanted for arrest in the US, and what three situations after that did Clinton have to jail him?

Thanks!
 
The rivets on the Ttiatnic were made of sub-standard iron, thus causing the ship to rip apart upon a relatively minor impact. Clinton destroyed the ability of Federal agencies to communicate with each other, and the hijackers trained in the US for years while he was President, thus the ability to detect terrorist movement greatly curtailed.

The rivets may have been sustandard but it was the carless captaining of the ship that led to it's demise, if it hadn't have hit the iceberg it wouldn't have sunk.

As for your assertion that somehow Clinton was at fault six months after he left office and Bush was therefore blameless for what transpired on his watch, well it's as silly as it sounds.

If the rivets had been up to specification the ship would have a dent instead of rupturing. If Clinton had done his job then the terrorists would have been stopped at the airport of before. You can't reasonable expect a president to be able to undue 8 years of Clinton bullshit and neglect in 8 months.

LOL - judging from what I read about Obama I'd say the consensus is that the president should be able to solve all problems in two months!
 
Not only that, but many more attacks were PREVENTED during Bush's watch, and cells infilterated and shut down.

Not that the lib media ever mentions it.
 

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