Hawaii’s Governor Takes On ‘Birthers’

[Two Thumbs]

No. I'm talking the New World Order, the Illuminati, the KFC, the Masons! It's all connected! And if you send me $19.99 plu $4.95 S&H I'll send you a book proving it all.

Failed at porn? hmm How? For decades those were the only sited to turn profits.

Well you're clearly one of the disinformation people that are working for the Shadow core to keep the truth hidden. You guys hiring? Herd you offer dental and vision.


People need drama, and they will create it in order to get it.

I just wish being a disinformation agent paid better. Maybe I need to fire up my e-mail spammer and printer and switch sides. There's a sucker born every minute! I'll be rich!

Absofuckinglootly! And there doesn't have to be any facts. Take something vague, twist it, then ask a question that implies a cover up.

but remeber to put some non-sense letters at the end of your name, that way you look like a certified professional.

 

[Gadawg73]

Pretty friggen funny, when I requested a COPY of my Hawaii birth certificate, I received a COPY of the ORGINIAL.

It didn't look ANYTHING like that thing they presented for Obama. and since when is a fathers race, AFRICIAN?

How would you know you received a copy of the original? Did they send that also?
Were you born the same year as Obama? I have different looking birth certificates for all 3 of my kids born in the same city, same state, SAME HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR.

This is far too easy. Please, someone, ANYONE give me a good debate here.
Something of substance with some valid and not a made up argument.

You are either uninformed or a liar.
The Hawaii Department of Health DOES NOT give the option to request a photocopy of your long form original birth certificate.
IOW, NO ONE ever receives a copy of the original. That is how it is in most states as I have gathered hundreds of birth and death certificates in my work over the last30 years.
The Hawaii Department of Health released in a press release by Kurt Tshue, "We accept and put down what the parents self identufy them to be as to race".
Everyone in the Hawaii Department of Health has validated that THEY hold the original birth certificate of Obama.
Are you claiming this is a conspiracy starting with the birth and then the announcement in the Hawaii newspaper days later?
Either you know what you claim is false and you are making this all up or you are very stupid.
Let it go. Make your best arguments on another issue. On this one you are wrong.

The Hawaii Department of Health DOES NOT give the option to request a photocopy of your long form original birth certificate.

One question
If Hawaii does not issue copies of the original long form why do they keep them on file?

You need to thoroughly research each subject before offering an opinion. You should have known the answer to that before believing the birther nonsense.
The long form is drawn up by the hospital at birth and also includes a lot of personal information such as birth weight, parents homestowns and a lot of other personal information.
The short form is printed by the State and draws FROM A DATABASE, is not original and has fewer details.
Hawaii never issues a copy of the long form. Ask them why but that is common policy nationwide.
Glad to clear that up for you. Now you know the true facts.

 

[G.T.]

WHY THE HELL did this idiot Governor drum up this shit NOW.

things had pretty much DIED DOWN about this?

makes ya wonder?

No, it doesn't make anyone wonder. Why now? He's the new Governor. He wasn't Governor before.

What makes me wonder, is how you can be so arrogant about your idiocy in believing Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

 

[Two Thumbs]

WHY THE HELL did this idiot Governor drum up this shit NOW.

things had pretty much DIED DOWN about this?

makes ya wonder?

Now THIS I can understand.

It may be election season in HI.
Obama may be trying to lower the GOP's popularity in congress.

Any number of power play reasons. None have anything to do with birthers except to get them riled up again.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If by "shadow world" you mean con artists, I'm with you all the way there.

I remember a couple years ago one of the leading conspiracy nutters in the WND/NWO cabal was a relative local, a part-time cab driver and failed internet pornographer who printed up pamphlets and sold them online from his living room. I mean come on, anybody dumb enough to fail at internet porn has got to be an idiot. I wonder if he's still in the tinfoil hat racket?

I'm just curious as to what motivates people to buy this stuff other than they want to trash the object of the spew and anybody who questions them to make themselves feel, what? Like they're in on something big and important and that makes them important? Like they're doing their bit for god and country even though they can't articulate what it is?

Seriously, I can't figure it out. What am I missing? Nobody's ever given me an answer.

actually it's the doubters like you that make me keep questioning things like the so called friendship with obamas parents. Two years he could have mentioned this and killed the issue, but he did not.

You're haning your hat on that?

come ON man! He didn't mention he knew obamas parents? Oh the horrific proof of it all! He must have been born on Maui instead of Hawii!

C'mon guys. You're making the rest of us have to deal with the title of redneck with this bs.

No I am not hanging my hat on anything. I do not take anything at face value. People can blow off anything because they want to accept what is said to be true. I use common sense when 2+2 does not equal 4. Will you consider my question?
Why did he take two years to come forward with this information?

 

[Stephanie]

WHY THE HELL did this idiot Governor drum up this shit NOW.

things had pretty much DIED DOWN about this?

makes ya wonder?

No, it doesn't make anyone wonder. Why now? He's the new Governor. He wasn't Governor before.

What makes me wonder, is how you can be so arrogant about your idiocy in believing Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

arrogant.
I believe the "arrogant" one would be this Governor talking down to the people he Represents.
And I find it very suspicious that the Obama is in Hawaii and this Governor comes out NOW and speaks.

 

[goldcatt]

No. I'm talking the New World Order, the Illuminati, the KFC, the Masons! It's all connected! And if you send me $19.99 plu $4.95 S&H I'll send you a book proving it all.

Failed at porn? hmm How? For decades those were the only sited to turn profits.

Well you're clearly one of the disinformation people that are working for the Shadow core to keep the truth hidden. You guys hiring? Herd you offer dental and vision.


People need drama, and they will create it in order to get it.

I just wish being a disinformation agent paid better. Maybe I need to fire up my e-mail spammer and printer and switch sides. There's a sucker born every minute! I'll be rich!

Absofuckinglootly! And there doesn't have to be any facts. Take something vague, twist it, then ask a question that implies a cover up.

but remeber to put some non-sense letters at the end of your name, that way you look like a certified professional.

I also need a really awesome pseudonym to write under, otherwise it will look like the NWO isn't *really* out to get me.

I know! Tina Foyl Reynolds, B.S.A., M.C.A., and M.M.S.E.!

(That's Bull Shit Artist, Master of Con Artistry and Meadow Muffin Seller Extraordinaire! Fear my awesomeness!)

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How would you know you received a copy of the original? Did they send that also?
Were you born the same year as Obama? I have different looking birth certificates for all 3 of my kids born in the same city, same state, SAME HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR.

This is far too easy. Please, someone, ANYONE give me a good debate here.
Something of substance with some valid and not a made up argument.

You are either uninformed or a liar.
The Hawaii Department of Health DOES NOT give the option to request a photocopy of your long form original birth certificate.
IOW, NO ONE ever receives a copy of the original. That is how it is in most states as I have gathered hundreds of birth and death certificates in my work over the last30 years.
The Hawaii Department of Health released in a press release by Kurt Tshue, "We accept and put down what the parents self identufy them to be as to race".
Everyone in the Hawaii Department of Health has validated that THEY hold the original birth certificate of Obama.
Are you claiming this is a conspiracy starting with the birth and then the announcement in the Hawaii newspaper days later?
Either you know what you claim is false and you are making this all up or you are very stupid.
Let it go. Make your best arguments on another issue. On this one you are wrong.

The Hawaii Department of Health DOES NOT give the option to request a photocopy of your long form original birth certificate.

One question
If Hawaii does not issue copies of the original long form why do they keep them on file?

You need to thoroughly research each subject before offering an opinion. You should have known the answer to that before believing the birther nonsense.
The long form is drawn up by the hospital at birth and also includes a lot of personal information such as birth weight, parents homestowns and a lot of other personal information.
The short form is printed by the State and draws FROM A DATABASE, is not original and has fewer details.
Hawaii never issues a copy of the long form. Ask them why but that is common policy nationwide.
Glad to clear that up for you. Now you know the true facts.

You need to thoroughly research each subject before offering an opinion

Asking a question is response to your comment is not giving an opinion care to try again?

If Hawaii does not issue copies of the original long form why do they keep them on file?

OH and as for doing reasearch one of my grand children were born in Hawaii. in 2007

 

[G.T.]

WHY THE HELL did this idiot Governor drum up this shit NOW.

things had pretty much DIED DOWN about this?

makes ya wonder?

No, it doesn't make anyone wonder. Why now? He's the new Governor. He wasn't Governor before.

What makes me wonder, is how you can be so arrogant about your idiocy in believing Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

arrogant.
I believe the "arrogant" one would be this Governor talking down to the people he Represents.
And I find it very suspicious that the Obama is in Hawaii and this Governor comes out NOW and speaks.

suspicious? like....how? like....what's "suspicious" about it?

 

[Two Thumbs]

actually it's the doubters like you that make me keep questioning things like the so called friendship with obamas parents. Two years he could have mentioned this and killed the issue, but he did not.

You're haning your hat on that?

come ON man! He didn't mention he knew obamas parents? Oh the horrific proof of it all! He must have been born on Maui instead of Hawii!

C'mon guys. You're making the rest of us have to deal with the title of redneck with this bs.

No I am not hanging my hat on anything. I do not take anything at face value. People can blow off anything because they want to accept what is said to be true. I use common sense when 2+2 does not equal 4. Will you consider my question?
Why did he take two years to come forward with this information?

Aside from it's not important?

hmm

Maybe b/c he was just elected. Maybe some birther followed big 0 on vacation and asked the gov about it, again. Maybe he's stirring the pot just for kicks.

None of which is any evidence that there is some vast conspiracy.

 

[rdean]

Two years ago, he wasn't governor. What could he do? Nothing. To right wingers, everything has to be explained, and even then.......

 

[uscitizen]

What a fantastic use of time and government resources.

To prevent others wasting govt time and resources with frivilous lawsuits and such on the matter?

And hey it is a governor like palin was before she quit so you should believe him right?

 

[Two Thumbs]

I just wish being a disinformation agent paid better. Maybe I need to fire up my e-mail spammer and printer and switch sides. There's a sucker born every minute! I'll be rich!

Absofuckinglootly! And there doesn't have to be any facts. Take something vague, twist it, then ask a question that implies a cover up.

but remeber to put some non-sense letters at the end of your name, that way you look like a certified professional.

I also need a really awesome pseudonym to write under, otherwise it will look like the NWO isn't *really* out to get me.

I know! Tina Foyl Reynolds, B.S.A., M.C.A., and M.M.S.E.!

(That's Bull Shit Artist, Master of Con Artistry and Meadow Muffin Seller Extraordinaire! Fear my awesomeness!)

We fear, we fear!!

 

[goldcatt]

Absofuckinglootly! And there doesn't have to be any facts. Take something vague, twist it, then ask a question that implies a cover up.

but remeber to put some non-sense letters at the end of your name, that way you look like a certified professional.

I also need a really awesome pseudonym to write under, otherwise it will look like the NWO isn't *really* out to get me.

I know! Tina Foyl Reynolds, B.S.A., M.C.A., and M.M.S.E.!

(That's Bull Shit Artist, Master of Con Artistry and Meadow Muffin Seller Extraordinaire! Fear my awesomeness!)

We fear, we fear!!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're haning your hat on that?

come ON man! He didn't mention he knew obamas parents? Oh the horrific proof of it all! He must have been born on Maui instead of Hawii!

C'mon guys. You're making the rest of us have to deal with the title of redneck with this bs.

No I am not hanging my hat on anything. I do not take anything at face value. People can blow off anything because they want to accept what is said to be true. I use common sense when 2+2 does not equal 4. Will you consider my question?
Why did he take two years to come forward with this information?

Aside from it's not important?

hmm

Maybe b/c he was just elected. Maybe some birther followed big 0 on vacation and asked the gov about it, again. Maybe he's stirring the pot just for kicks.

None of which is any evidence that there is some vast conspiracy.

Maybe I'm reading to much into what he said.

“It’s an insult to his mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that,” Governor Abercrombie said in a telephone interview late Thursday. “It’s an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office.”

If it was so emontional for him why didn't he come forward two years ago when it was a real big issue. Wasn't he a congressman two years ago?

 

[rdean]

The only question I have is why the right gets so upset when you point out their party is 90% white? It is what it is.

Prove it, racist... let's see the cold, hard facts.

Then while you're at it, explain why it is the kenyan has spent MILLIONS of dollars on keeping the majority of his past hidden, including this fictitious real birth certificate.

Prove it isn't. No reason for me to post the same link over and over again. Besides, one right winger who called it a lie posted the very link from the Gallup poll trying to prove something else. It was hilarious. Oops, did I give away the evidence?

The really curious question, why do right wingers think their party would be less than 90% white? They celebrate "Confederate" day, they are based in the south, home of Jim Crowe and Slavery. Their leaders say, "Feed the poor and they'll breed and the unemployed are hobos and using their checks for drugs". You only have to read the news and Fox to see what kind of people Republicans are.

Diverse people can't be so awful. Each group holds the others in check. No, the Republican Party is 90% white. We all know it. And they are proud of it. They just hate people pointing out the obvious. Which really is curious.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Two years ago, he wasn't governor. What could he do? Nothing. To right wingers, everything has to be explained, and even then.......

So he could have mentioned it
In 1990, Governor Abercrombie was elected to return to Congress and represented Hawai`i’s first Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives until 2010
http://hawaii.gov/gov/about/governors-bio

 

[goldcatt]

Two years ago, he wasn't governor. What could he do? Nothing. To right wingers, everything has to be explained, and even then.......

So he could have mentioned it
In 1990, Governor Abercrombie was elected to return to Congress and represented Hawai`i’s first Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives until 2010
http://hawaii.gov/gov/about/governors-bio

And.......?

 

[uscitizen]

Well he did want to be elected gorvernor and getting associated with birther trash.....

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Two years ago, he wasn't governor. What could he do? Nothing. To right wingers, everything has to be explained, and even then.......

So he could have mentioned it
In 1990, Governor Abercrombie was elected to return to Congress and represented Hawai`i’s first Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives until 2010
Governor Neil Abercrombie — Office of the Governor

And.......?

Why are you asking any questions when you will not answer the ones asked to you?
But silly little priencess read deans post then ask yourself why did I say AND?