Have we become a nation of obedient weenies?

[LA RAM FAN]

huh? I've always said government has its place such as a reasonable self-defense apparatus (I served BTW) not the bloated, self-serving, security industrial complex that contemporary Repubs are beholden to. Understand now?

You can't claim to believe that, KNOWING the government is unwieldy, corrupt, self-serving, and sometimes beyond the best intentions and hopes of all people, and then support this same entity stripping the only means the people have of protecting themselves from it if it gets beyond the control of those people who created it. It just doesn't make logical sense.

To claim that the Republican party is in any way operationally, ethically or bureaucratically different then the Democratic Party is to just be naive. The Democratic Party is beholden to just as many interests that make it just as corrupt. In fact, both parties are often times beholden to the same interests. That's why the whole game is rigged, and anyone that has half an interest and knowledge about how the system works, will tell you it is all for show. Stop being a rube.

thats what I got done saying. He seems to think the democrat party is somehow different than the republican party and doesnt get it that just like you said,is held to the same special interests that the republicans are.

Makes me wonder if he even understands WHY november 22nd 1963 really happened and how that event altered and changed the course of history around the world for the worst and how it still affects our lives to this very moment right now as we speak,that we became a fascist dictatership and lost our chance to be a free country after that.

I dont think he understands any of that.

 

[hortysir]

Sure looks like it.

As long as people have there eyephones and other imported gadgets, they've become too fat & lazy to see the ever-increasing wealth-gap, and the power those at the other end of the spectrum wield via their campaign cash- reliant puppets in Washington.

Our rw brethren will say that Repub jesus planned it that way but I beg to differ

Our Protest-Free New Gilded Age On Point with Tom Ashbrook

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/books/review/the-age-of-acquiescence-by-steve-fraser.html?_r=0

To solve the mystery of why sustained resistance to wealth inequality has gone missing in the United States, Fraser devotes the first half of the book to documenting the cut and thrust of the first Gilded Age: the mass strikes that shut down cities and enjoyed the support of much of the population; the Eight Hour Leagues that dramatically cut the length of the workday, fighting for the universal right to leisure and time “for what we will”; the vision of a “ ‘cooperative commonwealth’ in place of the Hobbesian nightmare that Progress had become.”

He reminds readers that although “class war” is considered un-American today, bracing populist rhetoric was once the lingua franca of the nation. American presidents bashed “moneycrats” and “economic royalists,” and immigrant garment workers demanded not just “bread and roses” but threatened “bread or blood.” Among many such arresting anecdotes is one featuring the railway tycoon George Pullman. When he died in 1897, Fraser writes, “his family was so afraid that his corpse would be desecrated by enraged workers, they had it buried at night . . . in a pit eight feet deep, encased in floors and walls of steel-reinforced concrete in a lead-lined casket covered in layers of asphalt and steel rails.”

OP asks if we're obedient
Then tells us what we SHOULD be obeying

 

[LA RAM FAN]

huh? I've always said government has its place such as a reasonable self-defense apparatus (I served BTW) not the bloated, self-serving, security industrial complex that contemporary Repubs are beholden to. Understand now?

You can't claim to believe that, KNOWING the government is unwieldy, corrupt, self-serving, and sometimes beyond the best intentions and hopes of all people, and then support this same entity stripping the only means the people have of protecting themselves from it if it gets beyond the control of those people who created it. It just doesn't make logical sense.

To claim that the Republican party is in any way operationally, ethically or bureaucratically different then the Democratic Party is to just be naive. The Democratic Party is beholden to just as many interests that make it just as corrupt. In fact, both parties are often times beholden to the same interests. That's why the whole game is rigged, and anyone that has half an interest and knowledge about how the system works, will tell you it is all for show. Stop being a rube.

this smiley as well needs to be added to Misterbeals excellent informative post.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Sure looks like it.

As long as people have there eyephones and other imported gadgets, they've become too fat & lazy to see the ever-increasing wealth-gap, and the power those at the other end of the spectrum wield via their campaign cash- reliant puppets in Washington.

Our rw brethren will say that Repub jesus planned it that way but I beg to differ

Our Protest-Free New Gilded Age On Point with Tom Ashbrook

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/books/review/the-age-of-acquiescence-by-steve-fraser.html?_r=0

To solve the mystery of why sustained resistance to wealth inequality has gone missing in the United States, Fraser devotes the first half of the book to documenting the cut and thrust of the first Gilded Age: the mass strikes that shut down cities and enjoyed the support of much of the population; the Eight Hour Leagues that dramatically cut the length of the workday, fighting for the universal right to leisure and time “for what we will”; the vision of a “ ‘cooperative commonwealth’ in place of the Hobbesian nightmare that Progress had become.”

He reminds readers that although “class war” is considered un-American today, bracing populist rhetoric was once the lingua franca of the nation. American presidents bashed “moneycrats” and “economic royalists,” and immigrant garment workers demanded not just “bread and roses” but threatened “bread or blood.” Among many such arresting anecdotes is one featuring the railway tycoon George Pullman. When he died in 1897, Fraser writes, “his family was so afraid that his corpse would be desecrated by enraged workers, they had it buried at night . . . in a pit eight feet deep, encased in floors and walls of steel-reinforced concrete in a lead-lined casket covered in layers of asphalt and steel rails.”

Trouble is once people turn off their tv's, or log-off the internet, the concerns of others aren't usually still in their face. It's the bury your head in the sand thing. Of course, when your head is in the sand, your ass isn't and it's just easier to fuck you.