Has Noah's Ark been found?

[Old Rocks]

Why is it when evolutionists say that the whole world was scorched (and there is no evidence that the entire world was scorched and no one was there to see the sky turn red) ---- that because evolutionists presented this, that it's acceptable and somehow entirely TRUE.

The only person that said that is YOU. The scientists who presented their model said it is what their model shows, but it has not yet been addopted as consensus that the entire world was a fireball as a result of that impact.

So, I will say it again: the ONLY person who said it was true was YOU, when you tried to use the truth of it in a failed argument earlier in the thread.


And there is plenty of evidence of that impact, and not a shred of evidence of any of the magical biblical nonsense.

SO what! There is plenty of evidence that there was a Worldwide catastrophic event. I believe it all points to the FALL of Adam and the eventual FLOOD . I'm not asking you to believe it. I'm telling you that this is what the Bible says and what Jesus reaffirmed. And this accepted by very normal people amd many are scientists. Just because you don't wish to believe the Bible doesn't make it unacceptable.

Worldwide catastrophes leave worldwide evidence. There is no worldwide evidence for a worldwide flood that covered the mountains. There is evidence of local floods that would have involved to whole of a primitive tribes world. There is the Gilgamesh Epic that predates the Biblical stories. There are evidences of worldwide catastrophes in the geological time scale, but they occurred many millions of years ago. Long before there were humans. Humans wrote the Bible. Humans who were extremely ignorant by todays standards.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, then the evolutionist scientists are entirely wrong in this case, and it is just as likely that an asteroid, meteor strikes and comet collisions triggered the most horrible GLOBAL FLOOD that never happened before or ever again

Wrong...how? Explain yourself.

I'll let them hang themselves!

A team from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences have come up with a model of the disaster that shows how the asteroid's impact heated up the Earth's atmosphere to levels that would have incinerated anything not underground or underwater.

If the asteroid caused the flood, the intense heat that preceded the flood would have incinerated Noah's ark and the animals before he had a chance to launch it.

Which brings us to one of those conspiracy points... Why is it when evolutionists say that the whole world was scorched (and there is no evidence that the entire world was scorched and no one was there to see the sky turn red) ---- that because evolutionists presented this, that it's acceptable and somehow entirely TRUE. But when the Bible says the entire world was submerged (and fossils formed by mud submersion are discovered pretty much everywhere) that this is not true and entirely unscientific?!?!?!?!?!?

Why make such an open display of your truly abysmal ignorance? No, there is no worldwide mud layer that is dated the same everywhere. There is a worldwide layer of dust and carbon that is dated the same at every site, that is from an impact 65 million years ago. And it is not evolutionists that demonstrated that the impact had worldwide effects, but geologists and physicists.

 

[LittleNipper]

They couldn't find many of the bodies of men lost at 9/11 any yet 100,000 year old flesh is probable?

Possible, actually. And, as it turns out, those animals did not die by the collapse of a skyscraper.

No, they were buried in mud the likely result of an asteroid strike or strikes that had the

They couldn't find many of the bodies of men lost at 9/11 any yet 100,000 year old flesh is probable?

Possible, actually. And, as it turns out, those animals did not die by the collapse of a skyscraper.

Well, according to secular scientists (and not Creationists at that) they have devised the following explanation:
The greatest show on earth: How the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs sparked a global firestorm and turned the sky bright red

• New model of disaster suggests asteroid's impact would have heated atmosphere to 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit
• Heat would have incinerated the world's forests and everything else not protected underground or underwater

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 16:19 EDT, 10 April 2013 | UPDATED: 02:44 EDT, 11 April 2013

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The impact of a six-mile long asteroid believed to have hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago would have sparked a cataclysmic firestorm, scientists say.

Over the past three decades scientists have argued about what caused the extinction 66 million years ago - changes to climate, volcano activity or an asteroid.

Research has already shown that the prehistoric animals died out around the same time a six-mile long object hit the planet, and a new model of the disaster suggests the asteroid's impact would have sent vaporised particles of rock high above Earth's atmosphere which in turn would have turned the sky bright red as they heated the upper atmosphere to 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit on re-entry.

Cosmic explosion: An asteroid hitting the planet sounded the death knell of dinosaurs

A team from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences have come up with a model of the disaster that shows how the asteroid's impact heated up the Earth's atmosphere to levels that would have incinerated anything not underground or underwater. (Impression of dinosaurs feeding)

'It's likely that the total amount of infrared heat was equal to a 1 megaton bomb exploding every four miles over the entire Earth,' study researcher Douglas Robertson, of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, or CIRES, said in a statement reported in LiveScience.com.

To put this into perspective, a 1-megaton hydrogen bomb is said to be the equivalent of 80 Hiroshima-type nuclear bombs.

The model, detailed this week in the Journal of Geophysical Research-Biogeosciences shows how the 'heat pulse' would have incinerated the world's forests and everything else not protected underground or underwater.

YET SOMEHOW WITHOUT GOD"S HELP SCIENTISTS SAY THAT DINOSAUR DNA survived 10's of MILLIONS of years after this supposed catastrophic event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yet once again, they can't even find bodies of people who were trapped at the top of skyscrapers that bit the dust how long ago!!!!!! That seems odd to me and yet this is what you accept because it suits you. I guess that this is your FLOOD. You don't wish to believe GOD's version.

Hey, I just thought of something. We only know what a dinosaur looks like from its bones, right? We've never found one preserved, have we?
What if they had feathers, like birds?

best preserved dinosaur ever found - Yahoo Video Search Results

This Is the Best Dinosaur Fossil of Its Kind Ever Found

A very fascinating find.

It seems plausible to me that since men like Methuselah lived that lizards and birds lived as long. Lizards grow throughout their lives. How big would a 900 year old lizard be? Oxygen was plentiful and that temperature was warm /mild to moderate.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is plenty of evidence that there was a Worldwide catastrophic event. I believe it all points to the FALL of Adam and the eventual FLOOD

Which ais all contradicted by the evidence. Sorry nipper, you don't get to use any of the evidence for your argument. It all contradicts this fable.

 

[initforme]

Yes Noah's arc has been found. It's located in Wisconsin Dells. It's awesome. Take the grandkids there every summer. All kidding aside I think it's buried somewhere under layers of soil or rock.

 

[LittleNipper]

There is plenty of evidence that there was a Worldwide catastrophic event. I believe it all points to the FALL of Adam and the eventual FLOOD

Which ais all contradicted by the evidence. Sorry nipper, you don't get to use any of the evidence for your argument. It all contradicts this fable.

Not in the least. Fossils, unless organic, are dated by the minerals that they are formed from. And there is no way of proving how old the ancient animal was was when it died --- only that it was mature or appears to be elderly. But scientists can not in fact say that the "mature" animal wasn't 500 years old at the time of death with absolute certainty. All that can be determined is if diseased, or wear of joints, etc.. However, there is actually no way but to assume that organisms lived to the very same ages that organisms do today. And assumptions are not without the possibility of error. And if organisms lived to older ages due to purer genetics, a more stable environment, and a higher concentration of oxygen ---- how did this effect the look and size of such organisms?

Did the dinosaur become a chicken or was a chicken an and extremely old dinosaur? What came first the chicken of the egg. Biblically the answer is very simple ----- the chicken. God didn't need to hatch eggs...

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL For your information, there are ways of telling how old an organism is from evidence provided by the fossil of the organism. As pointed out by all the sane on this board, you believe in fairy tales. The laws of nature by which we date rocks are the same laws that govern the operations of nuclear power plants. If they were not valid, the power plants would not work. A song written by an intelligent Christian.

 

[LittleNipper]

LOL For your information, there are ways of telling how old an organism is from evidence provided by the fossil of the organism. As pointed out by all the sane on this board, you believe in fairy tales. The laws of nature by which we date rocks are the same laws that govern the operations of nuclear power plants. If they were not valid, the power plants would not work. A song written by an intelligent Christian.

Again, is there anyway to prove that radioactivity was not once stable and not in a continuous state of decay? And is there a way to prove that GOD didn't create given rocks or minerals with a predetermined level of radiation already existing? If the answer is no, then you need to re-evaluate what is being taught as absolute.

If by the FALL death and decay entered into the world, then is it not logical that when GOD created the Universe, it was stable and not in any state of decay. And couldn't radioactive decay be but a symptom of sin and not a law of physics that GOD originally intended?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What came first the chicken of the egg. Biblically the answer is very simple ----- the chicken. God didn't need to hatch eggs...

The egg, obviously. Eggs appeared on Earth 100s of millions of years before chickens did. And the biblical answer is dead wrong, as usual. What do you expect, from a bronze age fairy tale written by abjectly ignorant people?

 

[LittleNipper]

What came first the chicken of the egg. Biblically the answer is very simple ----- the chicken. God didn't need to hatch eggs...

The egg, obviously. Eggs appeared on Earth 100s of millions of years before chickens did. And the biblical answer is dead wrong, as usual. What do you expect, from a bronze age fairy tale written by abjectly ignorant people?

Who hatched the eggs, if they appeared 1st? And how did they date those eggs? By the flesh inside or by the mineral deposits that had infiltrated them and or surrounded them?
What evolutionists say------
Please note that I'm telling the truth: Dating dinosaurs and other fossils - Australian Museum

They are not actually dating the former organism but the mineral that have leached inside them... BIG DIFFERENCE.
What the Creationists say: Dating Methods

 

[Old Rocks]

If the fossils are found in igneous rock, volcanic ashfall, then you can date the fossils directly. If found in sediments, you date an igneous rock above or below the layer of sediment the fossil was found in. Also, there are marker fossils, which did not exist before a certain time, and were extinct at a certain time. The combination of several of these can also accurately date the age of a fossil. But all of this is wasted on a mind determined to be willfully ignorant.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who hatched the eggs, if they appeared 1st

The primitive organisms who formed them. Just to save you some time, you are wading into the specious reasoning of the failed argument against evolution called "irreducible complexity". I urge you to educate yourself on that topic before commenting again.

By the flesh inside or by the mineral deposits that had infiltrated them and or surrounded them?

A variety of methods, including dating the material that rellaced the original, organic material. Again, I urge you to educate yourself, instead of begging strangers on the internet to spoonfeed you this information.

 

[Syriusly]

They couldn't find many of the bodies of men lost at 9/11 any yet 100,000 year old flesh is probable?

Possible, actually. And, as it turns out, those animals did not die by the collapse of a skyscraper.

No, they were buried in mud the likely result of an asteroid strike or strikes that had the

They couldn't find many of the bodies of men lost at 9/11 any yet 100,000 year old flesh is probable?

Possible, actually. And, as it turns out, those animals did not die by the collapse of a skyscraper.

Well, according to secular scientists (and not Creationists at that) they have devised the following explanation:
The greatest show on earth: How the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs sparked a global firestorm and turned the sky bright red

• New model of disaster suggests asteroid's impact would have heated atmosphere to 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit
• Heat would have incinerated the world's forests and everything else not protected underground or underwater

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 16:19 EDT, 10 April 2013 | UPDATED: 02:44 EDT, 11 April 2013

[headerlinks
The impact of a six-mile long asteroid believed to have hit the earth and wiped out the dinosaurs 66 million years ago would have sparked a cataclysmic firestorm, scientists say.

Over the past three decades scientists have argued about what caused the extinction 66 million years ago - changes to climate, volcano activity or an asteroid.

Research has already shown that the prehistoric animals died out around the same time a six-mile long object hit the planet, and a new model of the disaster suggests the asteroid's impact would have sent vaporised particles of rock high above Earth's atmosphere which in turn would have turned the sky bright red as they heated the upper atmosphere to 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit on re-entry.

Cosmic explosion: An asteroid hitting the planet sounded the death knell of dinosaurs

A team from the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences have come up with a model of the disaster that shows how the asteroid's impact heated up the Earth's atmosphere to levels that would have incinerated anything not underground or underwater. (Impression of dinosaurs feeding)

'It's likely that the total amount of infrared heat was equal to a 1 megaton bomb exploding every four miles over the entire Earth,' study researcher Douglas Robertson, of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences, or CIRES, said in a statement reported in LiveScience.com.

To put this into perspective, a 1-megaton hydrogen bomb is said to be the equivalent of 80 Hiroshima-type nuclear bombs.

The model, detailed this week in the Journal of Geophysical Research-Biogeosciences shows how the 'heat pulse' would have incinerated the world's forests and everything else not protected underground or underwater.

YET SOMEHOW WITHOUT GOD"S HELP SCIENTISTS SAY THAT DINOSAUR DNA survived 10's of MILLIONS of years after this supposed catastrophic event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yet once again, they can't even find bodies of people who were trapped at the top of skyscrapers that bit the dust how long ago!!!!!! That seems odd to me and yet this is what you accept because it suits you. I guess that this is your FLOOD. You don't wish to believe GOD's version.

I am always amused by your Creation cultists who cite scientific articles which refer millions of years ago- and then insist that is what happened 4,000 years ago during the flood.

Over the past three decades scientists have argued about what caused the extinction 66 million years ago - changes to climate, volcano activity or an asteroid.

 

[LuckyDuck]

The Ark nonsense doesn't belong on the science & technology category, rather, it belongs on the religious category.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The Ark nonsense doesn't belong on the science & technology category, rather, it belongs on the religious category.

The evolution and climate science denier threads dont belong here, either. The deniers claim a vast conspiracy of the global scientific community, which is laughable. Those threads belong in the conspiracy theory section.