has anyone switched parties ?

[Foxfyre]

I was going to ask based on how he supports the GOP based on the issues meaning he is a right winger what makes him think he is an independent??

I repeat:

I am convinced there are three kinds of citizens out there:

1. The people who vote for the candidate based on issues alone.

2. The partisans who vote party line or out of contempt for another party.

3. Those who vote purely out of ignorance or emotional response.

Those who are unable to focus on the issues but rather focus on personalities or a party or 'rightwing' or emotional response or anything OTHER than the issues are in my opinion those who fall into Category #3.

I know a bunch of people who refuse to vote any other way than straight party ticket. Those fall into Category #2.

Those who do focus on the issues and vote accordingly fall into category #1.

And who makes you an authority on other citizens voting practices?

The same authority that prompts you to judge me personally on just about everything I post. I express my opinion about how things are. I choose to focus on the issues. You choose to focus on me or whomever you are judging at the time and seem to assume I am or they are criticizing or judging you.

If you have an opinion on the issues, it would be good to discuss those. But if you have no interest in discussing the issues and just want to take personal shots, PLEASE just scroll over my posts Sky Dancer. I'm just not into that, and it will save us both so much time.

 

[Charles_Main]

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He's a mother fucking RADICAL SOCIALIST you fucking MORON, and he's done more to HARM this country so far than HELP it... you RACIST piece of DOG SHIT.

Ah shaddap, would ya?​

Oh just lovely. A blasphemous picture of Jesus Christ doing something he'd never do. What a low life pig.

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

 

[Foxfyre]

Ah shaddap, would ya?​

Oh just lovely. A blasphemous picture of Jesus Christ doing something he'd never do. What a low life pig.

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

No we won't. But it goes without saying that a picture like that is crude, disrespectful, insensitive, and speaks far more to the character of the person posting it than the intended insult inherent in the picture.

 

[Luissa]

What makes you think other people are less independent than you?

I was going to ask based on how he supports the GOP based on the issues meaning he is a right winger what makes him think he is an independent??

I repeat:

I am convinced there are three kinds of citizens out there:

1. The people who vote for the candidate based on issues alone.

2. The partisans who vote party line or out of contempt for another party.

3. Those who vote purely out of ignorance or emotional response.

Those who are unable to focus on the issues but rather focus on personalities or a party or 'rightwing' or emotional response or anything OTHER than the issues are in my opinion those who fall into Category #3.

I know a bunch of people who refuse to vote any other way than straight party ticket. Those fall into Category #2.

Those who do focus on the issues and vote accordingly fall into category #1.

My issue with the party thing, especially with state elections, is a candidate going with their party and wanting to cut programs I believe in. I am not going to vote for a candidate who goes along with their party with it comes to family planning services etc.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Ah shaddap, would ya?​

Oh just lovely. A blasphemous picture of Jesus Christ doing something he'd never do. What a low life pig.

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

Naw. They'll just play victim and harass people on message boards.

 

[Foxfyre]

I was going to ask based on how he supports the GOP based on the issues meaning he is a right winger what makes him think he is an independent??

I repeat:

I am convinced there are three kinds of citizens out there:

1. The people who vote for the candidate based on issues alone.

2. The partisans who vote party line or out of contempt for another party.

3. Those who vote purely out of ignorance or emotional response.

Those who are unable to focus on the issues but rather focus on personalities or a party or 'rightwing' or emotional response or anything OTHER than the issues are in my opinion those who fall into Category #3.

I know a bunch of people who refuse to vote any other way than straight party ticket. Those fall into Category #2.

Those who do focus on the issues and vote accordingly fall into category #1.

My issue with the party thing, especially with state elections, is a candidate going with their party and wanting to cut programs I believe in. I am not going to vote for a candidate who goes along with their party with it comes to family planning services etc.

Then you are most likely an issue oriented voter and however somebody votes, I can respect that. I do wonder though why a person who votes mostly Democrat continues to be registered Republican? Of course if your state has open primaries, it really doesn't matter what your party affiliation is.

 

[McDowell's]

I was going to ask based on how he supports the GOP based on the issues meaning he is a right winger what makes him think he is an independent??

Can you not distinguish between partisanship and ideology? A partisan votes for a specific party, just because that's the party they belong to. Just because a person has a rightwing ideology does not mean they automatically identify with the Republican party or vote the party line. God damn what's wrong with people? It's not that hard to be the least bit discerning. I'm generally right of center and I voted in the Democratic primary the last presidential election cycle for Hillary Clinton. That made me a Democrat until the next primary season in which I voted in the Republican primary. So tell me, am I a Democrat, Republican, or Independent? Based on your asinine assumption, I'm a Republican for being right leaning. Which is not true in the least.

Can you not distinguish between an unsubstatiated claim and a fact? A partisan will more than likely claim that they are not partisan but how would one go about proving it??

Furthermore, there were a LOT of limbaugh listeners that voted for hillary in the primaries because he told them to so how can you prove that you aren't one of them and on that matter can you prove that you actually voted for her??

Oh and in case you missed it the previous poster stated that he was an issues voter and supported republican candidates on the issues that makes him a right winger. So my question still stands and your lame and asinine spin has been thoroughly rejected and countered. Next time try reading BEFORE you respond.

You want me to prove he's not partisan, why don't you prove he's not independent? You're automatic assumption is that a person is lying to you about their personal beliefs. I don't share that assumption. Sorry.

Apparently, you think Rush Limbaugh is the only person capable of independent thought. Rush Limbaugh was not my motivation for voting for Hillary Clinton, but you think everyone you talk to is outright lying at every moment. So Rush Limbaugh must have been the impetuous for me to vote for the Democrat who represents me in our city council. Nevermind, I can't show you my voting records and explicitly prove that vote, so I must be lying.

The previous poster said they supported Republicans, based upon ideology, MOST of the time. NOT ALL THE TIME. Which as I said, precludes them from being a partisan. A partisan supports the PARTY ALL THE TIME. Since you want to use their statements as proof of your position, I'm going to use their statements as proof of the contrary. If they're good enough for you to make your judgments, they're good enough for me to make mine. So you're question still lacks any basis.

 

[MaggieMae]

Give you fuckers enough rope and you'll hang yourselves. What does that mean? It means you just made it perfectly clear that you voted for obama because he's black, (half black). Looks like since you're a "mulatto," you identified with him simply because of his race, so you voted for him. Well isn't that special... you racist piece of dumbass shit.

I won't vote Republican again until there are no long any ignorant, angry morons like you apparently giving the party it's direction.

First off, idiot, I'm not a republican.

Second, someone openly displays their racism, I among others calls him on it, and "I'M" the ignorant one?

Get a grip you pin headed bitch.

I base my opinion of YOU on many other posts of yours, not just what you regurgitate here.

 

[uscitizen]

I doubt that they actually switched or left the party but there sure are a lot of right wingers claiming to be independents these days. I noticed the increase of extremely right leaning independents shortly after the Rs lost in 06 and it has steadilly increased since.

That, in my case is because of RINO's. I guess it's beyond your ability to comprehend.

UH WOW!! What made you think I was directing that at you specifically?? Furthermore, what made you think I was posting that in response to your post that I didn't even read until AFTER I had made my reply?? Why are you so defensive on this subject??

My point is that there are a lot of independents in name only. They claim to be independents and yet their extreme right leaning positions betray that claim. If that fits you to the point that you assume that I am talking about you then the problem is YOURS not mine.
However, since you went there let's address your post.

I went from Republican to Independent after the 2008 Election.

So where in your post do you mention WHY you left?? You mentioned a time but did NOT meantion a reason. Since you did not mention a reason then how am I supposed to comprehend something that did not exist within your posts?? One can't comprehend what doesn't exist.

But then I guess it's beyond your ability to comprehend.

LOL

the embaressed Republicans/independents still vote repoublican.

 

[MaggieMae]

I am convinced there are three kinds of citizens out there:

1. The people who vote for the candidate based on issues alone.

2. The partisans who vote party line or out of contempt for another party.

3. Those who vote purely out of ignorance or emotional response.

I'm an issue voter and it was the issues that prompted me to switch from Democrat to GOP years ago. I am not partisan, however, and hold the GOP and the Democrats equally in contempt when they support crappy and/or destructive issues. The ONLY reason I am registered GOP is because most candidates I support--and that would be on the issues--are GOP and I can't vote in the GOP primary without being registered Republican.

I agree with your list.

 

[MaggieMae]

Oh just lovely. A blasphemous picture of Jesus Christ doing something he'd never do. What a low life pig.

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

No we won't. But it goes without saying that a picture like that is crude, disrespectful, insensitive, and speaks far more to the character of the person posting it than the intended insult inherent in the picture.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And I apologize for offending anyone.

 

[Foxfyre]

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

No we won't. But it goes without saying that a picture like that is crude, disrespectful, insensitive, and speaks far more to the character of the person posting it than the intended insult inherent in the picture.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. And I apologize for offending anyone.

Apology accepted. And kudos for being pretty classy.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I'm an Independent. Everyone should be Independents in my opinion. Both parties get together to f*ck you over way too often. Don't join either one. It really is a liberating experience once you decide to stop being a slave for either party. It's the ultimate Freedom & Liberty. More people should try it.

 

[Tom Clancy]

I went from the Republican Party to Independent..

Neither party represents my Ideals.

Unless the True Conservatives in the Republican come out and actually support Individual Freedom then maybe I'll come back..

That's the only thing I can agree with Democrats.

 

[Foxfyre]

I went from the Republican Party to Independent..

Neither party represents my Ideals.

Unless the True Conservatives in the Republican come out and actually support Individual Freedom then maybe I'll come back..

That's the only thing I can agree with Democrats.

Well the Democrats certainly haven't governed with respect to individual freedom for the last two years have they. Just about everything they have passed has restricted and/or limited our freedom, choice, opportunities, and option to use our resources or to pursue our interests as we might otherwise choose to do.

As an independent I cannot vote in my state's primary elections, and that limits my ability to promote a candidate that I believe will respect my freedom, choices, opportunities, and options.

 

[washamericom]

well that was interesting.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I went from the Republican Party to Independent..

Neither party represents my Ideals.

Unless the True Conservatives in the Republican come out and actually support Individual Freedom then maybe I'll come back..

That's the only thing I can agree with Democrats.

I hear ya but the Democrats do not support Individual Freedom. That would go against everything a Socialist/Progressive believes in. There is only the State in a Socialist/Progressive World. So i agree with you on being an Independent but i have to disagree with you on Democrats supporting Individual Freedom. I just don't see that.

 

[Tom Clancy]

Oh just lovely. A blasphemous picture of Jesus Christ doing something he'd never do. What a low life pig.

Yes, I wonder when we will see Christians rioting in the streets calling for Violence over this.

Oh wait we wont.

Naw. They'll just play victim and harass people on message boards.

Who's playing Victim?

Aren't you Buddhist or whatever?

How would you feel the picture of Buddha giving the middle finger?

Personally I don't give a shit anymore.

 

[Tom Clancy]

I went from the Republican Party to Independent..

Neither party represents my Ideals.

Unless the True Conservatives in the Republican come out and actually support Individual Freedom then maybe I'll come back..

That's the only thing I can agree with Democrats.

Well the Democrats certainly haven't governed with respect to individual freedom for the last two years have they. Just about everything they have passed has restricted and/or limited our freedom, choice, opportunities, and option to use our resources or to pursue our interests as we might otherwise choose to do.

As an independent I cannot vote in my state's primary elections, and that limits my ability to promote a candidate that I believe will respect my freedom, choices, opportunities, and options.

Well, I'm not talking about all that.. I don't think the Democrat party is in touch with the people just like the GOP.. Like I said before, Same shit, different party.

I'm just talking about Legalization of Weed and Gay Marriage, Free Speech and the 2nd Amendment.

I don't think the I can be part of any party if the the GOP thinks they can run on Freedom for all if they can't let gay people marry.

Don't you think?

 

[Tom Clancy]

I went from the Republican Party to Independent..

Neither party represents my Ideals.

Unless the True Conservatives in the Republican come out and actually support Individual Freedom then maybe I'll come back..

That's the only thing I can agree with Democrats.

I hear ya but the Democrats do not support Individual Freedom. That would go against everything a Socialist/Progressive believes in. There is only the State in a Socialist/Progressive World. So i agree with you on being an Independent but i have to disagree with you on Democrats supporting Individual Freedom. I just don't see that.

They support a few things I do.. Such as Legalization and Gay Marriage. There I'm in touch with the Democrat party, but other than that.. Nope.