Harvard atheist has vision, converts to Catholicism

[ding]

That wasnt hard...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

Plenty there with a simple Google search. You're welcome.

It doesn't say what you "claim" it says.

In any event, I shall not waste more time and bandwidth on you.

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

 

[Vastator]

That wasnt hard...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

Plenty there with a simple Google search. You're welcome.

It doesn't say what you "claim" it says.

In any event, I shall not waste more time and bandwidth on you.

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

 

[ding]

It doesn't say what you "claim" it says.

In any event, I shall not waste more time and bandwidth on you.

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I am.

 

[Vastator]

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

 

[ding]

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

 

[Vastator]

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

 

[ding]

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

 

[BreezeWood]

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

your belief is not faith but in a book written in the 4th century ... a political document.

 

[ding]

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

your belief is not faith but in a book written in the 4th century ... a political document.

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

 

[Vastator]

I have no doubt. That’s why I don’t waste my time....

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

 

[harmonica]

That wasnt hard...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3gH7Jzckfl24H9fKO11s17

Plenty there with a simple Google search. You're welcome.

It doesn't say what you "claim" it says.

In any event, I shall not waste more time and bandwidth on you.

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

Genesis ??!!--you believe Genesis is factual/etc???!
hahahhahahahahah
it's a fairytale written thousands of years ago.....

 

[ding]

The difference between our position is that I actually have reasons for why I believe as I do.

You don’t have reasons for your beliefs. You have arguments against other people’s reasons.

So of the two of us you are taking a greater leap in faith than I do.

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

 

[ding]

It doesn't say what you "claim" it says.

In any event, I shall not waste more time and bandwidth on you.

If you do decide to waste time... please do it with a shred of evidence...

I listed like 6 things.

You listed claims made by others, and your own inability to explain things you dont understand. None of these constitute testable evidence. Ignorance is not evidence.

No. I did more than that.

Creating space and time from nothing.

Life making the leap from inanimate matter.

Jesus Christ.

The Jews

The remarkable accuracy in the account of creation in Genesis.

The explanation in the Bible for how the account of Genesis ended up as symbols in the Chinese written language 800 years before Moses recorded it in writing.

How man prefers good over evil but when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn’t violate it.

Existence is the evidence.

Matter and energy can’t exist forever without reaching thermal equilibrium. So no thing can exist forever without equilibrating. God is no thing. Space and time were created from nothing. Nothing is no thing.

I could go on for days like this.

Genesis ??!!--you believe Genesis is factual/etc???!
hahahhahahahahah
it's a fairytale written thousands of years ago.....

Genesis is the allegorical account of the history of the world that all people share.

The first five books of the Bible (known as the Torah) were written by Moses - an adopted son of the king of Egypt - in approximately 1400 B.C.. These five books focus on the beginning of the nation of Israel; but the first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years. Moses did not really write the first 11 chapters of the Bible. Moses was the first Hebrew to record them.
Approximately 800 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world. The Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Bible even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 800 years before Moses recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So if we start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

You have to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. You shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, you are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning. If you were to ask almost any Jew what the Tower of Babel was about he would have no clue that it was the allegorical account of the great migration from the cradle of civilization. That is not intended to be a criticism. It is intended to be an illustration of just how difficult a task it is to discover the original meaning from ancient accounts from 6,000 years ago. We read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make ourselves feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.

 

[Vastator]

Wrong. My beliefs are based on evidence. Not faith. That’s the difference.

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

 

[ding]

You have evidence that God doesn’t exist?

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

 

[Vastator]

Nope. Never claimed to. I don’t believe in God due to lack of evidence. There’s a huge difference.

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

But I didn’t. Instead I pointed out that your argument failed...

 

[ding]

Then your beliefs are not based upon evidence but are a leap of faith.

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

But I didn’t. Instead I pointed out that your argument failed...

Same difference.

 

[Vastator]

Your continued attempts to draw parity between my lack of faith in your god, and your own faith in such are quite amusing...

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

But I didn’t. Instead I pointed out that your argument failed...

Same difference.

Only in your mind. It takes no effort of faith, to have not been convinced of the conclusions offered by theists. Though your position desires that it does, so that you may, again... attempt to draw parity between your faith in a God, and others lack thereof. It’s a personal disconnect of yours.

 

[ding]

He’s not just my God, bro. He’s yours too.

And I am not arguing you have a lack of faith. I am arguing you have made a leap of faith to not believe in your God.

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

But I didn’t. Instead I pointed out that your argument failed...

Same difference.

Only in your mind. It takes no effort of faith, to have not been convinced of the conclusions offered by theists. Though your position desires that it does, so that you may, again... attempt to draw parity between your faith in a God, and others lack thereof. It’s a personal disconnect of yours.

Not only in my mind, on paper too.

You blanket denial without any supporting basis says a lot.

 

[Vastator]

Your argument fails...

You might as well have said nanny nanny boo boo.

But I didn’t. Instead I pointed out that your argument failed...

Same difference.

Only in your mind. It takes no effort of faith, to have not been convinced of the conclusions offered by theists. Though your position desires that it does, so that you may, again... attempt to draw parity between your faith in a God, and others lack thereof. It’s a personal disconnect of yours.

Not only in my mind, on paper too.

You blanket denial without any supporting basis says a lot.

My remaining unconvinced of the position you offer says a lot; only about the lackings of your offerings. Again you conflate lack of acceptance of your position, with out right denial. And your position requires this fallacy in order to work in your own mind. However the reality is something quite different altogether.