Harry Reid: Entitlement cuts need big deal

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    Harry Reid: Entitlement cuts need big deal - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com

    Harry Reid has now put entitlements on the table. And Mitch McConnell is trying to weasel his way out of dealing with the crisis he helped create. One of these two men is showing real leadership. Though for it have gotten to the point where I'm saying that about Harry Reid of all people makes me feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.
     
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    That's because it's all been a bluff by the right. Sure... there are some True Believers like Bachmann and Cantor, but most politicians of either side are pragmatists.

    So... Obama and now Reid has called their bluff. Now we see McConnell basically giving the President the Debt ceiling raise... with no cuts at all.... just what they wanted in the first place.

    If I were them, I'd double down and call for the repeal of the Bush tax cuts for people making over $1M/year.
     
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    The GOP is folding like a cheap suit. McConnell is waving his white flag to keep this issue out of the 2012 election. I hope the dems go for broke and and actually fix things, or at least stop the bleeding so we don't end up like the EU.

    1. Fix SS (way to go Barry! Keep pushing and fixing)
    2. Improve Medicare/Medicaid (put Max Lifetime Benefit in-place based on contributions)
    3. Cut spending, $4-trillion at least, tell the GOP that the Bush Tax cuts will not be extended. We know that prosperity occurs when those tax rates are used, and spending is controlled.

    The dems have NY-23 to point to as who has better talkin points
     
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    The Democrats are doubling down while the Republicans are playing politics. It's insane to watch them all try to one-up one another. (By them I mean Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell) Though I give Boehner some credit for his involvement in the talks.

    Did you see the accounting gimmick that Cantor brought up today?
     
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    say Modbert, Q's;

    does the dem party incl. the pres. etc. bear any responsibility for being here in this position budgetary, time and negotiation wise?

    Is the democratic party incl. the pres. playing politics?
     
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    I hope the dems get "the big fucking deal" done now. the GOP wants to push it back, which means catastrophe, I hope Obama sees thru it and sets things right, he has the Bush Tax Cuts to toss in.
     
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    reid said SS was off the table because its solvent foe decades.....so?

    max contribution? don't insurance policies do that?

    4 trillion? why yes I bet you believe in the tooth fairy too....:lol:
     
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    As the President said previously:

    Obama rejects short-term debt deal, urges compromise - CNN

    Meanwhile, Cantor is trying to say that we'll save $40 billion over 10 years ($4 billion a year) by having college students pay the interest on their government backed loans immediately instead of deferring them until graduation. In reality, all that's going on is that the students will pay the $$$ now instead of later on. No actual savings occur.
     
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    I think both parties are in the wrong for having to gotten us to this point. However, the time for action is now. What needs to happen is both parties need to buckle down and make a deal to raise the debt ceiling while cutting spending. Right now, I see the Democrats and the President willing to make major concessions while the GOP wants to give up nothing.

    When it's gotten to the point where Harry Reid is coming off as one of the adults in the room, something is going on.
     
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    fro your link, just to clarify-

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Tuesday that for entitlement cuts, it’s go big on a deal or forget it.

    “I will not touch Medicare and Medicaid for some simple little deal,” he told reporters. Reid said he’d only consider changes to the programs if the deal were large and included tax increases.

    Read more: Harry Reid: Entitlement cuts need big deal - Seung Min Kim - POLITICO.com



    you do know he said just yesterday that ss was OFF the table because it will be solvent for decades........sooo thats changed now? that is an entitlement...no? or did he not mean that........:eusa_eh:
     
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