Hard workers and those who live off their hard work.

[LogikAndReazon]

And to think, that greedy franchise owner may have invested in more then just one venture.......

The HORROR

 

[ilia25]

Consider, the staff at the typical fast food restaurant work hard; the owner of the franchise and stock holders of the parent firm reap the benefits.

Nothing stops those same workers from becoming stockholders, or opening their own franchise.

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

 

[DiamondDave]

Consider, the staff at the typical fast food restaurant work hard; the owner of the franchise and stock holders of the parent firm reap the benefits.

Nothing stops those same workers from becoming stockholders, or opening their own franchise.

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed

 

[ilia25]

Well yea! They took a chance and invested. Thats why they do that. To make money.. You know, earn. Not be entitled for being a loser..

Are you saying that everyone should try and start a business?

im saying everyone should take responsibility for themselves

Meaning those less talented and less lucky should live in misery?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Start your own restaurant.

That two other callous conservatives thanked you for your idiotgram is gratifying. I'd explain but you wouldn't understand.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Are you sure he's the idiot in here?

 

[Claudette]

Consider, the staff at the typical fast food restaurant work hard; the owner of the franchise and stock holders of the parent firm reap the benefits.

Of course they reap the benefits.

They are the ones who did the reams of paperwork and invested the money to start that franchise or business.

Most companies aren't into profit sharing. The workers work for a wage.

Of course that doesn't fit your idea of the worker reaping the benefits of the owners initial investment.

You obviously feel that because they work hard they should enjoy the profits.

As Sniper said. They could start their own franchise then they would be entitled to the profits.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Stop making sense. Just stop it. This is about feeling good and fairness. Logic is not a pre-req to misguided feelings.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Its not only about hard work, but right choices.............

A single mother of five from 4 different fathers probably wont be starting a business franchise anytime soon...................But deserves taxpayer assistance of course !!!

 

[Wry Catcher]

There was no suggestion Franchise owners and stock holders don't take risks.

There was no suggestion that Franchise owners don't work hard, some do, some don't.

The thread was in response to the constant comments and threads by callous conservatives that the poor and working poor are morally corrupt, lazy and seeking government aid. Some are and some do, but many work more than one PT job earning minimum wage with no benefits.

Blaming those who may have made poor choices, or had no choices to make is what makes many of those who posted above callous individuals; the irony being many of those claim to be Christians.

One measure of whether a thread is spot on is by the response of those who have differing opinions. When the response is to attack me personally and not respond critically to the theme is gratifying.

 

[ilia25]

Nothing stops those same workers from becoming stockholders, or opening their own franchise.

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed

The freedom to succeed does not mean the freedom to become rich at the expense of others.

 

[tjvh]

Consider, the staff at the typical fast food restaurant work hard; the owner of the franchise and stock holders of the parent firm reap the benefits.

Nothing stops those same workers from becoming stockholders, or opening their own franchise.

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

It's called life... Nobody owes you anything. When you believe they do, is when you're doomed to a sad and meager existence.

 

[beretta304]

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed

The freedom to succeed does not mean the freedom to become rich at the expense of others.

You work, you get paid. That's all an employer owes you.

 

[DiamondDave]

There was no suggestion Franchise owners and stock holders don't take risks.

There was no suggestion that Franchise owners don't work hard, some do, some don't.

The thread was in response to the constant comments and threads by callous conservatives that the poor and working poor are lazy and seeking government aid. Some are and some do, but many work more than one PT job earning minimum wage with no benefits.

Blaming those who may have made poor choices, or had no choices to make is what makes many of those who posted above callous individuals; the irony being many of those claim to be Christians.

One measure of whether a thread is spot on is by the response of those who have differing opinions. When the response is to attack me personally and not respond critically to the theme is gratifying.

If you are older than 18 and trying to work minimum wage jobs to support a family, you are FLAT OUT STUPID

If you have not advanced enough to have a skillset that can draw a salary higher than minimum wage, you are FLAT OUT STUPID or FLAT OUT LAZY

Who else are you gonna blame for poor choices?? Society?? The boogeyman??

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Here we go.

 

[WillowTree]

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed

The freedom to succeed does not mean the freedom to become rich at the expense of others.

at whose expense did they become rich? You ever work for a poor man?

 

[neomalthusian]

The thread was in response to the constant comments and threads

Shoulda cited em then.

 

[TNHarley]

Are you saying that everyone should try and start a business?

im saying everyone should take responsibility for themselves

Meaning those less talented and less lucky should live in misery?

If they dont want to better themselves then yes. Being successful is not luck. It is not their problem someone sucks. It is that of the taker. Even if I was not blessed with what I have, I wouldn't expect soemone to pave my way. Again, personal responsiblity. Just in case you do not know what that means :
Personal responsibility can also be referred to as "accountability," which is defined by Merriam-Webster as "the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions." This should generally be taken to mean that, to be accountable for oneself, one would admit to one's mistakes, make an attempt to make those mistakes right, and live in a way that does not harm others whenever possible.

 

[DiamondDave]

Bullshit. Nothing stops them from trying -- but they can't all succeeded.

This system does not reward you just for being hard-working and willing to take the risk. You have to be lucky on top of that.

You have the freedom to fail that goes hand in hand with the freedom to succeed

The freedom to succeed does not mean the freedom to become rich at the expense of others.

Expense of others?? Funny, it is the one earning a wage from the owners and investors that are the expense

Paying a wage comparable to the value of the skill is not 'taking advantage of' or 'getting over at the expense of another'... if you can be replaced by someone just walking in off the street, you are not going to draw a high salary.. nor SHOULD YOU

 

[TNHarley]

Logic+Democrats = Well it dont equal shit. The 2 do not add up. They should not even been said in the same sentence