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    Happy Happy Joy Joy.... Happy Happy Joy Joy.... Happy Happy Joy Joy

    (Thank you Ren & Stimpy)... you twisted a lot of kids

    Ah... sweet victory, It's nice to see Democrats frolicking again, joyous and happy, unencumbered with worries.. Oh those mad cap, wild any crazy, fools.. Don't ya just love em...:eusa_dance:

    Oh ...the agony of defeat, Poor sad demented souls, the unhappy losers, the down trodden, the tired, the hungry, the huddling masses ..getting the drift here?....:booze:

    And here are 17 reasons why...
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    1. There isn't a single government agency or division that runs efficiently; do we really want an organization that developed the U.S. Tax Code handling something as complex as health care?
    2. "Free" health care isn't really free since we must pay for it with taxes; expenses for health care would have to be paid for with higher taxes or spending cuts in other areas such as defense, education, etc.
    3. Profit motives, competition, and individual ingenuity have always led to greater cost control and effectiveness.
    4. Government-controlled health care would lead to a decrease in patient flexibility.
    5. The health-care industry likely will become infused with the same kind of corruption, back-room dealing, and special-interest-dominated sleeze that is already prevalent in other areas of government.
    6. Patients aren't likely to curb their drug costs and doctor visits if health care is free; thus, total costs will be several times what they are now.
    7. Just because Americans are uninsured doesn't mean they can't receive health care; nonprofits and government-run hospitals provide services to those who don't have insurance, and it is illegal to refuse emergency medical service because of a lack of insurance.
    8. Government-mandated procedures will likely reduce doctor flexibility and lead to poor patient care.
    9. Healthy people who take care of themselves will have to pay for the burden of those who smoke, are obese, etc.
    10. A long, painful transition will have to take place involving lost insurance industry jobs, business closures, and new patient record creation.
    11. Loss of private practice options and possible reduced pay may dissuade many would-be doctors from pursuing the profession.
    12. Malpractice lawsuit costs, which are already sky-high, could further explode since universal care may expose the government to legal liability, and the possibility to sue someone with deep pockets usually invites more lawsuits.
    13. Government is more likely to pass additional restrictions or increase taxes on smoking, fast food, etc., leading to a further loss of personal freedoms.
    14. Patient confidentiality is likely to be compromised since centralized health information will likely be maintained by the government.
    15. Health care equipment, drugs, and services may end up being rationed by the government. In other words, politics, lifestyle of patients, and philosophical differences of those in power, could determine who gets what.
    16. Patients may be subjected to extremely long waits for treatment.
    17. Like social security, any government benefit eventually is taken as a "right" by the public, meaning that it's politically near impossible to remove or curtail it later on when costs get out of control.

    BalancedPolitics.org - Universal Health Care (Pros & Cons, Arguments For and Against)

    This Link also provides the pro side of the argument and explains both sides in detail. I recommend reading the link. It's also a test to see if members actuality read the whole post, just piss and moan or, you know...
    Your all in on it, so... "Moms" the word.......:eusa_silenced:
     
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    ahhhh more pissing and moaning by the right....piss and moan on....seems to be all yall know at this point
     
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    Forsooth and good morrow sweet comely maiden, pray pardon me but Obama care is but a embossed carbuncle upon the buttocks of, "Liberty", surely you jest. Fare thee well, Fairest Strolling one..
     
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    The number of uninsured citizens has grown to over 45 million (although this number includes illegal immigrants, etc.).

    Health care has become increasingly unaffordable for businesses and individuals.

    We can eliminate wasteful inefficiencies such as duplicate paper work, claim approval, insurance submission, etc.

    We can develop a centralized national database which makes diagnosis and treatment easier for doctors.

    Medical professionals can concentrate on healing the patient rather than on insurance procedures, malpractice liability, etc.

    Free medical services would encourage patients to practice preventive medicine and inquire about problems early when treatment will be light; currently, patients often avoid physicals and other preventive measures because of the costs.

    Patients with pre-existing conditions can still get health coverage

    the pros.....

    BalancedPolitics.org - Universal Health Care (Pros & Cons, Arguments For and Against)
     
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    top of the morning to your partisan ignore ass....

    looks to be a rainy one here....
     
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    Seems kind of strange that they're celebrating amongst all of the death threats.

    I love the irony.
     
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    President Obama delivered on his promise. He got all that he could get at present. We will work from here to create a real health care system in this nation, and drag the poor Conservatives, kicking and screaming, from the 18th century into the 21st.
     
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    Interesting that you only posted the lies concerning the cons.

    Here is how other Democratic industrial nations do it;

    FRONTLINE: sick around the world | PBS
     
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    I appreciated your link, a tad short on details and my link did provide the pro's (since I'm not fooling anyone).

    From you link all those countries combined wouldn't even fit into Texas.. imagine the complexities of a U. S. system with our bumbling representatives and social engineers, I mean you did read the 17 con points, right?
     
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    I was watching some lady on C-SPAN this morning talking about health care. She was so excited, I bet she peed her pants. I'm so glad the government is forcing me to buy health insurance. Isn't that great? They're even going to tell me what I have to buy which means I don't have to think anymore!
     
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