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yes well, lets sum up; waivers -over a thousand including an entire State ( Maine), added costs as described below, the 'doctor fix'(?), Sibelius throwing in the towel on CLASS ( long term care) which she admits needs to be totally re-written and of course, Sibelius admits at a congressional hearing the double counting of funds that help make the bill appear cheaper than it is by MANY Billions after months upon months of denial.
The mandate may be in big trouble....
Unhappy Anniversary
ObamaCare's cost jumps 8.6%.
What's $2.3 trillion among friends? That's the canyon between the Congressional Budget Office's estimate of a $9.5 trillion federal budget deficit over the next decade under White House proposals, and the White House's own estimate of $7.2 trillion. The discrepancy emerged in a CBO analysis released Friday, not that it got much media attention.
We thought you'd like to know, and we also want to underline a less-noticed section that shows that ObamaCare will be far more expensive than advertised. To wit, CBO says the entitlement's health insurance subsidies will cost $1.13 trillion between 2012 and 2021, not $1.04 trillion, the prior estimate. This 8.6% jump is the result of revised assumptions, the so-called technical factors in CBO's budget model. The bill's total cost now stands at $1.445 trillion, according to another recent CBO estimate.
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Review & Outlook: Unhappy Anniversary - WSJ.com
Everything we on the right said is true. Worse care for more people instead of better care for everyone. Cost is much more than advertised. Shortage of doctors in the future is already happening. Doctor salaries will go down which is why enrollment is down in medical schools.
Obamacare is a disaster.
Damn girl
You sure write a lot just to make a simple point. Of course the neighbors helped. She was very sick and in a lot of pain. I don't know if you have ever been hospitalized, but the bills add up very fast and $100k for a short stay is not hard to do.
The neighbors did what we could, but not with that much money at stake. They went through over $200 k before losing their house.
They were not looking for a free ride, they did not want a government handout. They wanted to be able to buy insurance like anyone else. They were blocked because of pre-existing conditions
It's a shame that this country let it happen
If ONE neighbor had organized an ad hoc charitable organization, every penny the each person had contributed would have been tax deductible.
"It's a shame that this country let it happen."
Astounding comment.
I have no doubt that, were she still alive, Jeane Kirkpatrick would have awarded you (dis)honorary membership in the club she named the 'blame America first.'
Um yes...
I do blame America for sitting by idly while our healthcare system deteriorated. It is the mindset of I got mine....you worry about your own
The idea of passing the hat as a solution to the nations healthcare woes is quite original. I would keep it to myself.
Everything we on the right said is true. Worse care for more people instead of better care for everyone. Cost is much more than advertised. Shortage of doctors in the future is already happening. Doctor salaries will go down which is why enrollment is down in medical schools.
Obamacare is a disaster.
More fear mongering. Who do you think you are, a Nostradamus?
Doctors make too much money anyway and we have imported doctors and can import more. Enrollment is down in medical school because the tuition is too high and GOP has cut funding. Ask those who have been helped by Obamacare already and Obamacare has already save lives.
You sound like a spokesman for FOXNEWS.
Skyrocketing costs. The White House report warns that "health care costs have risen rapidly over the last two decades and are projected to rise even more rapidly in the future." The truth is that health-care spending is increasing at more moderate rates than in previous decades. Spending increased by 10% in 1970 and 13% in 1980. But over the last five years, spending increased less than 7% each year, and reached a low of 6% in 2007. It's true that premiums are increasing rapidly. But the White House report incorrectly blames health costs. The real cause is the declining share of care paid for out of pocket (down to 15% today from 33% in 1975). Auto-insurance premiums would also skyrocket if coverage suddenly included oil changes and tune-ups.
http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/images/WSJ_-_Obamas_Voodoo_Health_Economics_060509_.pdf
Enact TORT reform...and watch it go down.
Actually, T, I'm going with dropping mandates as the big cost saver:
COVERAGE MANDATES: "WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED"
Insurance coverage mandates refer to the restrictions each state sets on which type of policy can be sold legally within that market. For example, fourteen states now require all insurance plans sold to cover infertility treatments, regardless of the patient's need or desire for these services. Other states ban the sale of insurance plans unless they include coverage for massage therapy, obesity surgery, pastoral care, and wigs.
Needle-phobic consumers cannot buy plans without acupuncture coverage, and teetotalers must pay for plans that include inpatient drug rehabilitation, says Dr. Linda Halderman, a General Surgeon and policy adviser in the California State Senate.
What effect do mandates have on the cost of health insurance?
According to the National Center for Policy Analysis, just 12 of the most common insurance mandates currently in place raise premium rates by as much as 30 percent.
The State of California forces over 50 such mandates on the employer-provided (group) insurance market, but not on individual plans; consequently, it costs three times more for California employers to offer insurance than if a plan is privately purchased.
In mandate-heavy states, consumers are denied the option of buying low-cost, basic health insurance plans to cover major illness or injury. They cannot choose to save money by paying out of pocket for ten-dollar pneumococcus pneumonia vaccines and ninety-dollar mammograms, thereby reserving health insurance for significant expenses, explains Halderman.
In those states, insurance is not insurance at all -- it is expensive, prepaid health care. In other words, when Hummers and Ferraris are the only vehicles sold, people on Toyota budgets can't afford transportation, says Halderman.
Source: Linda Halderman, "Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival," American Thinkers, December 16, 2009.
American Thinker: Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival
Another example of coersion by the statist-collectivists.
Notice, this savings solution was never brought up in even the limited discussions of Obamaare....Why?
It's not about either healthcare, or about savings, but about control.
Enact TORT reform...and watch it go down.
Actually, T, I'm going with dropping mandates as the big cost saver:
COVERAGE MANDATES: "WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED"
Insurance coverage mandates refer to the restrictions each state sets on which type of policy can be sold legally within that market. For example, fourteen states now require all insurance plans sold to cover infertility treatments, regardless of the patient's need or desire for these services. Other states ban the sale of insurance plans unless they include coverage for massage therapy, obesity surgery, pastoral care, and wigs.
Needle-phobic consumers cannot buy plans without acupuncture coverage, and teetotalers must pay for plans that include inpatient drug rehabilitation, says Dr. Linda Halderman, a General Surgeon and policy adviser in the California State Senate.
What effect do mandates have on the cost of health insurance?
According to the National Center for Policy Analysis, just 12 of the most common insurance mandates currently in place raise premium rates by as much as 30 percent.
The State of California forces over 50 such mandates on the employer-provided (group) insurance market, but not on individual plans; consequently, it costs three times more for California employers to offer insurance than if a plan is privately purchased.
In mandate-heavy states, consumers are denied the option of buying low-cost, basic health insurance plans to cover major illness or injury. They cannot choose to save money by paying out of pocket for ten-dollar pneumococcus pneumonia vaccines and ninety-dollar mammograms, thereby reserving health insurance for significant expenses, explains Halderman.
In those states, insurance is not insurance at all -- it is expensive, prepaid health care. In other words, when Hummers and Ferraris are the only vehicles sold, people on Toyota budgets can't afford transportation, says Halderman.
Source: Linda Halderman, "Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival," American Thinkers, December 16, 2009.
American Thinker: Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival
Another example of coersion by the statist-collectivists.
Notice, this savings solution was never brought up in even the limited discussions of Obamaare....Why?
It's not about either healthcare, or about savings, but about control.
Very true. No dispute. My point is that TORT must be part of it. People scream about excessive Doctor's fees...Doctors must buy insurance to protect themselves against malpractice.
Actually, T, I'm going with dropping mandates as the big cost saver:
COVERAGE MANDATES: "WE'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED"
Insurance coverage mandates refer to the restrictions each state sets on which type of policy can be sold legally within that market. For example, fourteen states now require all insurance plans sold to cover infertility treatments, regardless of the patient's need or desire for these services. Other states ban the sale of insurance plans unless they include coverage for massage therapy, obesity surgery, pastoral care, and wigs.
Needle-phobic consumers cannot buy plans without acupuncture coverage, and teetotalers must pay for plans that include inpatient drug rehabilitation, says Dr. Linda Halderman, a General Surgeon and policy adviser in the California State Senate.
What effect do mandates have on the cost of health insurance?
According to the National Center for Policy Analysis, just 12 of the most common insurance mandates currently in place raise premium rates by as much as 30 percent.
The State of California forces over 50 such mandates on the employer-provided (group) insurance market, but not on individual plans; consequently, it costs three times more for California employers to offer insurance than if a plan is privately purchased.
In mandate-heavy states, consumers are denied the option of buying low-cost, basic health insurance plans to cover major illness or injury. They cannot choose to save money by paying out of pocket for ten-dollar pneumococcus pneumonia vaccines and ninety-dollar mammograms, thereby reserving health insurance for significant expenses, explains Halderman.
In those states, insurance is not insurance at all -- it is expensive, prepaid health care. In other words, when Hummers and Ferraris are the only vehicles sold, people on Toyota budgets can't afford transportation, says Halderman.
Source: Linda Halderman, "Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival," American Thinkers, December 16, 2009.
American Thinker: Senate's Solution: Consumer Choice Is Dead on Arrival
Another example of coersion by the statist-collectivists.
Notice, this savings solution was never brought up in even the limited discussions of Obamaare....Why?
It's not about either healthcare, or about savings, but about control.
Very true. No dispute. My point is that TORT must be part of it. People scream about excessive Doctor's fees...Doctors must buy insurance to protect themselves against malpractice.
And I must buy insurance to pay the excessive Doctors fees
What is the common element here?
