Had The RWers Taken Personal Responsibility For Bush II, They Might Have Won

[MarcATL]

Can't defend this one can you...

Of course I can, don't be stupid.

That's a personal choice b/w the individual and God.

God Himself gives man freedom. He has set rules in place, The 10 Commandments, for man to follow, but man is free to choose Satan. God doesn't like it, but he allows it, otherwise it wouldn't be called freedom.

That's why salvation is a choice.

I can answer you with a dissertation if necessary, but I'll just give you the raw meet.

It's down to personal choice. The individual will one day have to give account to God, not to me, not to you, or not to the USA Guvmunt.

With that said, don't think I haven't noticed how you and all the other RWers who've responded to this thread have ignored the O.P. ...everything and anything but give account for Bush's failures huh? I get it.


lol

So you took the personal choice excuse, sorta knew you would, weak excuse...

Yeah, you to will have to give account for supporting abortion, the sword cuts both ways...

I love how you and your brethren dismiss 9/11/01, like it never happened or had no impact...

Not one of the Democrats leaders believed anything different about Saddam or Iraq, how many quotes do you need?

Would you like to debate the Housing Crisis? Clinton screwed up the housing market, FHA DPA was his first official act in opening the door to zero down loans, this was done by Bill Clinton, no one else...

Bush lied...people died.

It's rather quite simple.

 

[MarcATL]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

McCain tried to do something about Fannie Mae in 2005, but got shouted down by the Congressional Black Caucus.

When will the congressional black caucus and Dodd be held accountable for forcing banks to give loans to the poor who could not afford it?

Riight, right, right...it was the black people that caused the economic collapse during the Bush Administration. That's it!

 

[Billo_Really]

So you took the personal choice excuse, sorta knew you would, weak excuse...

Yeah, you to will have to give account for supporting abortion, the sword cuts both ways...

I love how you and your brethren dismiss 9/11/01, like it never happened or had no impact...

Not one of the Democrats leaders believed anything different about Saddam or Iraq, how many quotes do you need?

Would you like to debate the Housing Crisis? Clinton screwed up the housing market, FHA DPA was his first official act in opening the door to zero down loans, this was done by Bill Clinton, no one else...

The majority of the bad loans were from private lenders.

And the government didn't do anything to prevent banks from using good judgement in approving loans.

The reason for the collapse, was when financial sector started turning those bad loans into credit-default-swaps (derrivitives). Which was illegal for 50 years. But when that piece of shit, Phil Gramm got Glass-Steigall repealed, that all changed. Bill Clinton's role was signing that fuckin' Gramm-Bliley bill into law.

Derrivitives are not real growth. They don't produce any real goods. It's casino capitolism. When you combine that with the Bush tax cuts, those two fuckin' illegal and immoral wars and the derrivitives growing to 180 times the collective GNP of all the nations on the planet, that's some serious cash. And when that all dropped, the banks couldn't cover their losses.

But instead of breaking up those fuckers into little banks, we whind up bailing out the very people who caused the whole meltdown, because Bush II came out of his lame duck existance and threatened Congress with martial law if they didn't approve the $750 billion to give to the banks.

The OP is right. You fuckers didn't say shit about Bush. And for that, you got fucked in the ass in the 2006 mid-terms.

 

[GWV5903]

Of course I can, don't be stupid.

That's a personal choice b/w the individual and God.

God Himself gives man freedom. He has set rules in place, The 10 Commandments, for man to follow, but man is free to choose Satan. God doesn't like it, but he allows it, otherwise it wouldn't be called freedom.

That's why salvation is a choice.

I can answer you with a dissertation if necessary, but I'll just give you the raw meet.

It's down to personal choice. The individual will one day have to give account to God, not to me, not to you, or not to the USA Guvmunt.

With that said, don't think I haven't noticed how you and all the other RWers who've responded to this thread have ignored the O.P. ...everything and anything but give account for Bush's failures huh? I get it.


lol

So you took the personal choice excuse, sorta knew you would, weak excuse...

Yeah, you to will have to give account for supporting abortion, the sword cuts both ways...

I love how you and your brethren dismiss 9/11/01, like it never happened or had no impact...

Not one of the Democrats leaders believed anything different about Saddam or Iraq, how many quotes do you need?

Would you like to debate the Housing Crisis? Clinton screwed up the housing market, FHA DPA was his first official act in opening the door to zero down loans, this was done by Bill Clinton, no one else...

Bush lied...people died.

It's rather quite simple.

So you can't support your opinion with facts...

One liners???



Like I said, weak...

So predictable...

 

[theHawk]

Bush lied...people died.

It's rather quite simple.

Yes, you've proven time and again that your mind is quite simple.

 

[GWV5903]

So you took the personal choice excuse, sorta knew you would, weak excuse...

Yeah, you to will have to give account for supporting abortion, the sword cuts both ways...

I love how you and your brethren dismiss 9/11/01, like it never happened or had no impact...

Not one of the Democrats leaders believed anything different about Saddam or Iraq, how many quotes do you need?

Would you like to debate the Housing Crisis? Clinton screwed up the housing market, FHA DPA was his first official act in opening the door to zero down loans, this was done by Bill Clinton, no one else...

The majority of the bad loans were from private lenders.

And the government didn't do anything to prevent banks from using good judgement in approving loans.

The reason for the collapse, was when financial sector started turning those bad loans into credit-default-swaps (derrivitives). Which was illegal for 50 years. But when that piece of shit, Phil Gramm got Glass-Steigall repealed, that all changed. Bill Clinton's role was signing that fuckin' Gramm-Bliley bill into law.

Derrivitives are not real growth. They don't produce any real goods. It's casino capitolism. When you combine that with the Bush tax cuts, those two fuckin' illegal and immoral wars and the derrivitives growing to 180 times the collective GNP of all the nations on the planet, that's some serious cash. And when that all dropped, the banks couldn't cover their losses.

But instead of breaking up those fuckers into little banks, we whind up bailing out the very people who caused the whole meltdown, because Bush II came out of his lame duck existance and threatened Congress with martial law if they didn't approve the $750 billion to give to the banks.

The OP is right. You fuckers didn't say shit about Bush. And for that, you got fucked in the ass in the 2006 mid-terms.

Do you have a clue what FHA DPA is?

Here is the truth on derivatives, lets see, oh that's Bill Clinton, Larry Summers and the man himself Alan Greenspan...

The Warning | FRONTLINE | PBS

Like I said, Bill Clinton's finger prints are all over this...

Bush tax cuts, geez, is that all you have?

Its the mentality of the CRA that put us in this position, Boy...

Housing was recovering just fine in '96, Clinton screwed the pooch...

This is one of the best articles on the subject RealClearMarkets - How Did Paul Krugman Get It So Wrong?

Get back to me when you figure out how you have been missled...

 

[GWV5903]

Where did you go Marc??

I thought you wanted to discuss Bush?? What gives??

Chicken?

I have never ever blamed this on Blacks or Hispanics...

Come on Marc, let's discuss...

 

[LibertyLemming]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

My friend, you are partisan.

Secondly, Obama is almost a clone of GWB. Both are gigantic statists on the levels of Wilson and FDR.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

I really hope you stick around for four more years just so I can say "I told you."

 

[MarcATL]

Check this out...

How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don't Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn't grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man's record nor repudiate it. [The Atlantic, 11/7/12]

Source: Fox News' Relationship With The GOP Is Under Fire After Electoral Losses | Research | Media Matters for America

 

[bripat9643]

In other words:

It's all BOOOOOOSH's fault!

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

 

[MarcATL]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

I really hope you stick around for four more years just so I can say "I told you."

Told me what?

Even if Obama fails outright...as you stated. He failed in cleaning up BUSH'S MESS...COLOSSAL FAILURE himself. Do you agree?

 

[bripat9643]

We see that you're a drone who couldn't come up with an original argument or a thought of your own if your life depended on it.

It's still Bush's fault.....how nice.

See what I mean?

I forgot to add this statement to my O.P.

Keep it up RWers, America's watching.

Let's see where this type of crap gets you in 2014 and 2016.

 

[MarcATL]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

My friend, you are partisan.

Secondly, Obama is almost a clone of GWB. Both are gigantic statists on the levels of Wilson and FDR.

Answer me this level-headed one.

Did Bush bring the financial troubles on our heads or no? If not then who?

 

[bripat9643]

Even if Obama fails outright...as you stated. He failed in cleaning up BUSH'S MESS...COLOSSAL FAILURE himself. Do you agree?

No.

 

[MarcATL]

We see that you're a drone who couldn't come up with an original argument or a thought of your own if your life depended on it.

It's still Bush's fault.....how nice.

See what I mean?

I forgot to add this statement to my O.P.

Keep it up RWers, America's watching.

Let's see where this type of crap gets you in 2014 and 2016.

OK loser, I got one word for you.

Mitt. Romney.

 

[bripat9643]

Bush II still broke that damn glass though...no matter WHAT you say.


lol

How did he do that, by cutting taxes?

Only morons believe that.

 

[MarcATL]

Even if Obama fails outright...as you stated. He failed in cleaning up BUSH'S MESS...COLOSSAL FAILURE himself. Do you agree?

No.

Then what it is it then? Bush's hands are clean...he did everything right? Is that why he COULDN'T come to the RNC in 2012? Is that why no one wanted him to PUBLICLY endorse him in 2012 or anytime in the last 4 years? What's your answer?

 

[bripat9643]

OK loser, I got one word for you.

Mitt. Romney.

Your point?

 

[LibertyLemming]

Instead of holding Bush accountable for the COLOSSAL failure that he was, for damn near bringing total and complete FINANCIAL COLLAPSE on not just the good ole' U.S. of A., but the entire world economy, instead of being outraged over Bush's wanton and MASSIVE SPENDING, waste, fraud and abuse on two unecessary and trumped up wars, they instead chose silence. To Bush, and waited for Obama to come in to Office and heap all that rage and anger on him. Who DIDN'T bring all that upon us.

The man who's fixing it...they are INCENSED at/about...not the man who caused it.

America saw that, and didn't like. Didn't like it one bit, and thus voted him back in.

Republicans would do well to practice what they preach.

Not one of them can tell me they don't support Bush II. I've many many anti-Bush posts and threads and I see most of not all RWers on here either pass the buck to someone else, or outright wrap their arms around Bush II in support stating things like "he wasn't that bad", "Obama's worse" "at least he kept us safe."

They simply. have. not. learned. Unfornately...for them.

My friend, you are partisan.

Secondly, Obama is almost a clone of GWB. Both are gigantic statists on the levels of Wilson and FDR.

Answer me this level-headed one.

Did Bush bring the financial troubles on our heads or no? If not then who?

Bush was fucking terrible on every single level. Yes. So did Clinton. So did Reagan. So did FDR. So did Lincoln. So had and will again Obama. This is a long time coming. You know at one point we had ZERO national debt and that was without a national income tax?

I called you partisan because I've seen you only criticize Republicans and being passively rude towards them.