H. J. Res. 62

JBeukema · May 19, 2011

Read The Bill: H. J. Res. 62 - GovTrack.us

JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to give States the right to repeal Federal laws and regulations when ratified by the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

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Any provision of law or regulation of the United States may be repealed by the several states, and such repeal shall be effective when the legislatures of two-thirds of the several states approve resolutions for this purpose that particularly describe the same provision or provisions of law or regulation to be repealed..
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JBeukema · May 19, 2011

Based on the wording, a constitutional convention would be called to propose the amendment, and that would be a huge step backward. In fact, the appeal of possibly giving the states the power to repeal federal laws could be bait to lure states-rights people into accepting a constitutional convention, thinking they are going to get what they want, only to discover the proceedings have been rigged so that they lose what little they now have. In a constitutional convention, the 10th Amendment could be repealed or, itself, amended.

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H.J. Res. 62 is not meant to protect the states rights. It is a piece of trickery. The resolution implies that we do not now have the right as independent states to reject federal encroachment. The key phrase is “when ratified by”. If this resolution was actually implemented as an amendment to the constitution, no state could sue the Federal government over laws such as Obamacare, or refuse independently to submit to federal encroachment.
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Activist Post: H.J. Res. 62: Amending The Constitution To End States Rights?

NoEconomist · May 19, 2011

JBeukema said: ↑

Based on the wording, a constitutional convention would be called to propose the amendment, and that would be a huge step backward. In fact, the appeal of possibly giving the states the power to repeal federal laws could be bait to lure states-rights people into accepting a constitutional convention, thinking they are going to get what they want, only to discover the proceedings have been rigged so that they lose what little they now have. In a constitutional convention, the 10th Amendment could be repealed or, itself, amended.

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H.J. Res. 62 is not meant to protect the states rights. It is a piece of trickery. The resolution implies that we do not now have the right as independent states to reject federal encroachment. The key phrase is when ratified by. If this resolution was actually implemented as an amendment to the constitution, no state could sue the Federal government over laws such as Obamacare, or refuse independently to submit to federal encroachment.
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Activist Post: H.J. Res. 62: Amending The Constitution To End States Rights?
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I was talking about this yesterday, you don't want modern lawyers tinkering with the source code.

Baruch Menachem · May 19, 2011

Silly piece of grandstanding.

C_Clayton_Jones · May 19, 2011

Silly piece of grandstanding.
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Indeed fodder for the stump.

This would require a Constitutional Convention.

They would also be required to amend the Constitution to repeal amendments first, starting with the 14th. The unraveling of case law associated with the 14th alone would be a disaster.

Publius1787 · May 19, 2011

JBeukema said: ↑

Read The Bill: H. J. Res. 62 - GovTrack.us

JOINT RESOLUTION

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to give States the right to repeal Federal laws and regulations when ratified by the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States.

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

‘Article--

‘Any provision of law or regulation of the United States may be repealed by the several states, and such repeal shall be effective when the legislatures of two-thirds of the several states approve resolutions for this purpose that particularly describe the same provision or provisions of law or regulation to be repealed.’.
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Before both republican and democrat progressives amended the constitution this was exactly the role of the Senate. To be the voice of the states. The House was the voice of the people/taxpayers. Now the states have no voice as the Senate is popularly elected instead of being elected by the state legislatures as they used to be. So now popular elections determin treaties, court justices, and the intulectual side of congress. This was what our founders EXPRESSLY tried to prevent. Legeslation with no say by the states.

Publius1787 · May 19, 2011

Baruch Menachem said: ↑

Silly piece of grandstanding.
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I wouldent say that. The Senate used to be elected by the the state legislatures before the constitution was amended in the progressive era. The founding fathers wanted the state to have a say in the federal government. Now they have no say. I take it as a fact that if the Senate was still elected by the states there would be no Obamacare today.

Mr.Nick · May 20, 2011

Hahahaha...

The Tenth Amendment??

It would not be a good idea...

Whatever.....

Mr.Nick · May 20, 2011

Yeah your 1984 future...

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Mr.Nick · May 20, 2011

Sorry all the viral sites were stealing the vid for themselves. They (as I expected) ripped it all off... That was the point....

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