Guys, please educate me on this 2nd Amendment Issue, I'm trying to understand

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    My Canadian friend I'll explain to you very simply - here in United States we have many gun nuts, people who love guns not for any practical reason, but out of emotional attachment. Guns feel so damn cool, they satisfy control and fear impulses and feeds into the whole freedom fighter ideological thing...and of course all that gets slightly spoiled if you can't have the biggest, baddest gun around.

    There is only one reason assault conversion kits exist - to convert guns into those of illegal sort. There is not a single rational reason that those kits should remain legal while assault weapons are illegal...but it's not about rationality, it's about wanting that big gun and preserving the loophole to be able to get it.
     
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    Yes, because the 2nd isn't about duck hunting. It's about the natural right to defend oneself from tyranny, from wherever it may come. They'll have such weapons and so shall we. Why in the world would you purposefully put yourself at a tactical disadvantage?
     
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    Any LIBs on this forum are encouraged to not bother reading my reply. (It's only for people who have an IQ higher than 110.)
    When Canada was being settled the 'law' in the form of the RCMP ALWAYS preceded the settlers.
    When the USA was being settled the 'law' was always in the form of a sheriff' elected from within/by the settlers. So the Second Amendment was necessary so the average settler could have their own protection from indians and criminals.
    The US is generally a LOT more a violent place to live then Canada.
    Canada's inner cities are not yet violent negro run/populated shit holes like virtually every US city is. But they are working on it.
    The CBC has been a radical LIB, Government funded news outlet since it's inception.
    Everyone knows it.
    Everyone working at the CBC is a fucking Socialist/Communist/LIB POS!
     
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    Show us where they sell a 600 round magazine for such a weapon.
     
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    Complete falsehood.
     
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    Winner, winner. Chicken dinner.

    From the 32nd floor in Vegas, that shooter could have killed much more efficiently employing one shot, one kill. He instead wanted to terrify more than kill or he just didn't understand or care about the best way to use the weapons he had.

    They call the M249 S.A.W. (Below) a "support" weapon. Its purpose is to provide cover for riflemen to advance on a position, or to defend a position from one side.

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    Our Government is in control of the most powerful military ever to have existed. We have a responsibility to keep that government in check. Our government military has automatic weapons. We don't. That is a severe disadvantage. Our government has the power to lay down suppressive fire, where we don't. That should not be.

    If you think about it, the only people keeping the US military in check are its citizens.

    One universal truth that all must accept is that people in power want more power, and will do whatever they can to gain it. There is never enough power for people who lust for power. No one, I repeat none of our political leaders are immune from this power lust. They must be kept in control.

    We the people of the United States of America are the last line of defense keeping our power-hungry political leaders from taking unilateral control of our Government and using the most powerful military the world has ever known, to attack Canada, Mexico, or any other place to satisfy that power lust.

    So, in essence, automatic weapons in the hands of Americans saves Canada. Canada should advocate for Americans having full auto weapons.
     
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    it's not so much about the "weapon of choice" in as much as no one trusts the other side.

    however, i don't see many people arguing FOR automatic weapons. they are already heavily regulated and you simply can't own one w/o serious background checks and frequent visits from the FBI.

    however, gun/rights activists balk for no other reason than it's never enough. whatever they "succeed" in getting regulated they soon find their broad definitions can apply to a revolver, so they push it. and the NRA and other side fights it to just the other stupid extreme. meanwhile people focus on things that won't change and wouldn't matter if they did because hey - more laws.

    we need a new approach to this, not another band aid.
     
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    What utter nonsense.

    The Founding Fathers when creating a new government did not envision people defending themselves against the government they were creating.

    The 2nd amendment was written so states could form militias to defend themselves against Indians and foreign invasions. It was written before the U.S. had a standing army. The 2nd amendment is now obsolete and is being misinterpreted by a bunch of guntards.
     
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    Bottom line. Every nation who has ever been able to oppress its citizens, at one time or another, has done just that ! Coming to you soon...or at least they'll try. An idiocracy of over medicated video game playing assholes will be an easy take once us old guys are dead.The Nazis were cupcakes compared to what your modern brainwashed flag waving Nazi regime is capable of.
    Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia
     
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    Second Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

    um, maybe not exactly as you'd hope it would be.

    when people disagree, this "you're full of shit, i'm right" is why we can't have nice things anymore.
     

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