GUNS must GO

[bgn]

Wow. I saw this thread and thought it was stupid just based on the title. I just called you a left-tard in your abortion thread, and I click here only to find you make this one too. Man, I'm tired of being right.

 

[elvis]

Elvis,

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way, which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

All the Best,
Yukon

since you think we should have pitched in against Hitler in 1939, I will assume you also think France should have pitched in against Saddam....
after all we're allies.

 

[Andrew2382]

Elvis,

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way, which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

All the Best,
Yukon

wow imagine if you could write something that clever without plagerizing it.

 

[elvis]

Will you shoot me if I visit your country?

maybe.


fair warning.

that kind of talk isn't allowed on here. I made it clear that wasn't my intention.

 

[Munin]

since you think we should have pitched in against Hitler in 1939, I will assume you also think France should have pitched in against Saddam....
after all we're allies.

France did pitch in against Saddam (you seem to forget that), but not during the last Iraqi war.

 

[KittenKoder]

Of course a Canadian would not want US citizens to have guns, there is a risk that we would all just take over Canada ... since even their cops rarely carry more than a stick. But here's the thing, stop being so afraid of us conquering you, if we wanted to we would have already done it ... so stay in your own country and leave our guns alone.

PS: I don't use guns, prefer knives, can kill more people with them and get away with it better.

 

[Shogun]

Will you shoot me if I visit your country?

maybe.


fair warning.

that kind of talk isn't allowed on here. I made it clear that wasn't my intention.

complain to a mod. your concern means two things to me: jack and shit.

 

[elvis]

maybe.


fair warning.

that kind of talk isn't allowed on here. I made it clear that wasn't my intention.

complain to a mod. your concern means two things to me: jack and shit.

how eloquent and creative

 

[Andrew2382]

Elvis,


I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

No need to apologize for your shitty lumber...its easy to have an advantage when your centralized socialistic government sets the prices and is afraid to have real competition like we do here. Just don't cry about it when it gets tariffed.

For a country that invented hockey, your record in the olympics is nothing to brag about you guys have 7 gold medals with 4 of them coming in the first 4 olympics in the 20's and 30's when no one played...then you went a good 50 years without winning a medal..GREAT JOB! Total Medal Count- Canada 13- USA 10
Should we play a game of basketball, a sport we invented and have recently shown when needed still dominate?

CANADA DID NOT BURN DOWN THE WHITE HOUSE! You were not a country yet. Great Britian did attack Wasghington D.C. and burn the interior of the White House.

That would be like saying we defeated Canada in the American revolution of 1776. Which is immpossible because Canada was not a country yet. And the USA won the French and Indian war. Which is Immpossible cause the USA was not a soverien country yet.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

Canadian beer vs. American beer: The alcohol content battle - Beer, Wine, Homebrew, and Everything Fermentable! - fermentarium.com

you fail again, canadian beer is not stronger then american beer...Legend that moronic Canadians still believe so they can sleep better at night while banging the mooses they call ladies.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

you do know that Canadians entered the Second World War united with Great Britain, through Commonwealth association...Early in the war, Canada's commitment to the British-French forces in Europe was limited to one division. Canada's military deployment reached corps-level strength for the invasions in Italy in 1943, and Normandy in 1944. You know around that time frame America came in and showed everyone how it was done.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way, which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

All the Best,
Yukon

I am sorry that it took you to 1982 to have total independence from England...we had taken them to take a hike 200 years earlier....even though it was more of a formality in 82 you gained independence in 34? Around there....we are still about 150 years ahead of you.

Thank you for giving shelter to all of our pussy draft dodgers who run to Canada. They fit in well there I hear.

If you have sucha problem with America, please feel free to destroy all the American F/18 Hornets that populate your airforce.

Sincerely,

Uncle Sam

 

[Shogun]

that kind of talk isn't allowed on here. I made it clear that wasn't my intention.

complain to a mod. your concern means two things to me: jack and shit.

how eloquent and creative

indeed! Now, ask me how much I give a fuck about your concern regarding my posts... you can DO EEET! I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with "Bon't Live A Fruck".

 

[Munin]

Canada's military deployment reached corps-level strength for the invasions in Italy in 1943, and Normandy in 1944. You know around that time frame America came in and showed everyone how it was done.

In your dreams buddy: The americans got their asses kicked at first. They learned hard lessons, it were the germans that showed the Americans how it was done:

The United States did not have a smooth entry into the war against Nazi Germany. Early in 1943, the U.S. Army suffered a near-disastrous defeat at the Battle of the Kasserine Pass in February. The senior Allied leadership was primarily to blame for the loss as internal bickering between American General Lloyd Fredendall and the British led to mistrust and little communication, causing inadequate troop placements.[10] The defeat could be considered a major turning point, however, because General Eisenhower replaced Fredendall with General Patton. Military history of the United States during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battle of the Kasserine

"The Battle of Kasserine Pass took place in World War II during the Tunisia Campaign. It was, in fact, a series of battles fought around Kasserine Pass, a two-mile (3 km) wide gap in the Grand Dorsal chain of the Atlas Mountains in west central Tunisia. The Axis forces involved were primarily from the German-Italian Panzer Army (the redesignated German Panzer Army Africa) led by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel and the Fifth Panzer Army led by General Hans-Jürgen von Arnim. The Allied forces involved came mostly from the U.S. Army's II Corps commanded by Major General Lloyd Fredendall which was part of the British First Army commanded by Lieutenant-General Kenneth Anderson.

Significant as the first large-scale meeting of American and German forces in World War II, the untested and ineptly led American troops suffered heavy casualties and were pushed back over fifty miles (80 km) from their positions west of Faid Pass in a humiliating rout. The battle has been described as when the amateurs first met the professionals. In the aftermath, the U.S. Army instituted sweeping changes from unit-level organization to the replacing of commanders. When they next met, in some cases only weeks later, the U.S. forces were considerably more effective. " Battle of the Kasserine Pass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it were not the American soldiers but the British soldiers who got the Allied forces out of this mess:

The attack by 21st Panzer Division up to Sbiba was stopped on February 19 by elements of the British 1st Infantry Brigade (Guards), the 2nd Battlion of the Coldstream Guards

 

[Andrew2382]

Canada's military deployment reached corps-level strength for the invasions in Italy in 1943, and Normandy in 1944. You know around that time frame America came in and showed everyone how it was done.

In your dreams buddy: The americans got their asses kicked at first. They learned hard lessons, it were the germans that showed the Americans how it was done:

The United States did not have a smooth entry into the war against Nazi Germany. Early in 1943, the U.S. Army suffered a near-disastrous defeat at the Battle of the Kasserine Pass in February. The senior Allied leadership was primarily to blame for the loss as internal bickering between American General Lloyd Fredendall and the British led to mistrust and little communication, causing inadequate troop placements.[10] The defeat could be considered a major turning point, however, because General Eisenhower replaced Fredendall with General Patton. Military history of the United States during World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battle of the Kasserine

"The Battle of Kasserine Pass took place in World War II during the Tunisia Campaign. It was, in fact, a series of battles fought around Kasserine Pass, a two-mile (3 km) wide gap in the Grand Dorsal chain of the Atlas Mountains in west central Tunisia. The Axis forces involved were primarily from the German-Italian Panzer Army (the redesignated German Panzer Army Africa) led by Field Marshal Erwin Rommel and the Fifth Panzer Army led by General Hans-Jürgen von Arnim. The Allied forces involved came mostly from the U.S. Army's II Corps commanded by Major General Lloyd Fredendall which was part of the British First Army commanded by Lieutenant-General Kenneth Anderson.

Significant as the first large-scale meeting of American and German forces in World War II, the untested and ineptly led American troops suffered heavy casualties and were pushed back over fifty miles (80 km) from their positions west of Faid Pass in a humiliating rout. The battle has been described as when the amateurs first met the professionals. In the aftermath, the U.S. Army instituted sweeping changes from unit-level organization to the replacing of commanders. When they next met, in some cases only weeks later, the U.S. forces were considerably more effective. " Battle of the Kasserine Pass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it were not the American soldiers but the British soldiers who got the Allied forces out of this mess:

The attack by 21st Panzer Division up to Sbiba was stopped on February 19 by elements of the British 1st Infantry Brigade (Guards), the 2nd Battlion of the Coldstream Guards

so that one battle in Feb of 43 sums up how we did for the rest of the war...plus why didn't you link the rest of the paragraph other then just what fits your arguement

"Slowly the Allies stopped the German advance in Tunisia and by March were pushing back. In mid April, along with British General Bernard Montgomery, the Allies smashed through the Mareth Line and broke the Axis defense in North Africa. On May 13, 1943, Axis troops in North Africa surrendered, leaving behind 275,000 men. Allied efforts turned towards Sicily and Italy.
"

By May of 1943 Axis troops surrendered....3 months later... I would hardly call that disastorous.

And it had nothing to do with the skill of American soldiers junior, is was bad strategy and tactics that lead to that defeat...General Patton led the war from that point on and I am pretty sure from Normandy on, it was mostly victories

 

[Diuretic]

Of course a Canadian would not want US citizens to have guns, there is a risk that we would all just take over Canada ... since even their cops rarely carry more than a stick. But here's the thing, stop being so afraid of us conquering you, if we wanted to we would have already done it ... so stay in your own country and leave our guns alone.

PS: I don't use guns, prefer knives, can kill more people with them and get away with it better.

Hang on KK, Canadian cops carry guns. Now even the border folks do....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Elvis,

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way, which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

All the Best,
Yukon

yukon a question......what the hell has Canada ever invented or improved upon,that has actually helped the world....name 10 things.....

 

[Munin]

so that one battle in Feb of 43 sums up how we did for the rest of the war...plus why didn't you link the rest of the paragraph other then just what fits your arguement

"Slowly the Allies stopped the German advance in Tunisia and by March were pushing back. In mid April, along with British General Bernard Montgomery, the Allies smashed through the Mareth Line and broke the Axis defense in North Africa. On May 13, 1943, Axis troops in North Africa surrendered, leaving behind 275,000 men. Allied efforts turned towards Sicily and Italy.
"

By May of 1943 Axis troops surrendered....3 months later... I would hardly call that disastorous.

And it had nothing to do with the skill of American soldiers junior, is was bad strategy and tactics that lead to that defeat...General Patton led the war from that point on and I am pretty sure from Normandy on, it was mostly victories

I was only talking about how you ve put it: you seemed to say that the superior americans would "teach" the Europeans "how it is done".

While it were the americans that needed to learn the most lessons. Sure Americans troops were very good when they evolved in this war (better training, more veteran troops and better leaders), but that was not what you said. Also: british troops also were very good during WWII (initially much better then US troops), they simply did not have the manpower to defeat the Germans (something the americans did have) and the british army was already too much stretched out over its colonies.

By May of 1943 Axis troops surrendered....3 months later... I would hardly call that disastorous

The first introduction with German troops was a complete disaster for the americans. Not like what you said: that the americans would teach the Europeans how it is done. (they showed how it is NOT done). That is the point I m trying to make, not that the Allied forces (americans, british and french) defeated the Germans 3 months after this (because the germans were outmatched in numbers and supplies).

 

[KittenKoder]

Of course a Canadian would not want US citizens to have guns, there is a risk that we would all just take over Canada ... since even their cops rarely carry more than a stick. But here's the thing, stop being so afraid of us conquering you, if we wanted to we would have already done it ... so stay in your own country and leave our guns alone.

PS: I don't use guns, prefer knives, can kill more people with them and get away with it better.

Hang on KK, Canadian cops carry guns. Now even the border folks do....

It's an old joke ... really old ...

 

[KittenKoder]

Elvis,

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.

I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defense I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice.

I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we Feel your Pain.

I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.

And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way, which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.

All the Best,
Yukon

yukon a question......what the hell has Canada ever invented or improved upon,that has actually helped the world....name 10 things.....

Beer doesn't help the world?

 

[Andrew2382]

Yes, but was it a disaster due to the troops?

No

It was a disaster from the leadership, poor communication and tactics


And all of the allied troops were skillfull...including USSRwhich held off Germany for months...

 

[Munin]

And all of the allied troops were skillfull...including USSRwhich held off Germany for months...

That is not true: the allied troops were outnumbering the germans, the Germans troops were very skilled. The USSR were only victorious because of their superior numbers, but because of their "inferior" soldiers they lost even more troops (10,700,000 : World War II casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) then the germans when the war was over.

Keep in mind who has "won" the war.



The germans mainly lost because they couldn't keep up in terms of production with the allied forces, that is one of the main reasons why the allied air force gained superiority (because of bigger numbers). German tank divisions still were superior to the american tank divisions, these german tank devisions had already gained a legendary reputation.

German troops proved themselves when they conquered almost the whole of Europe, so no need to question their skills (they conquered more territory then the Russians and allies).

American and other allied troops then caught up with the Germans in skills, tactics, technology, ...

While the Germans had bigger logistical problems (they had 3 fronts to fight on).

 

[Diuretic]

Somewhere in Europe, 1944, a group of Allied soldiers are taking shelter in a ruined house.

"Damn that was close, I didn't think I'd ever see Brooklyn again. Kinda reminded me of that Kassarine Pass fuckup"
“What's a 'Brooklyn'? Yank?”
“It's where they have a totally hopeless baseball team eh?”
“Stow it Canuck, if it weren't for Americans you guys wouldn't have a chance with baseball. “
“Rounders you mean.”
“Limey, it's called 'baseball', it's called 'baseball' 'cos it's 'baseball'.”
“Yes but we invented it.”
“You guys invented every fucking thing, but did you make any of it work? No, that was down to good old American know-how.”
“No need to be like that Yank.”
“Maybe Limey but take note, after this one is over you're going to see some changes in this world.”
“Yeah maybe Newfoundland will join Canada, eh?”
“Newfoundland's British mate and British it will stay, mark my words.”
“We'll see, my British friend, we'll see.”
“Okay, how's the lay of the land out there?”
“I think they've scarpered.”
“Yeah, I had a peep, looks to be all quiet, maybe we can get out of this rat hole eh?”
“Do we split up Yank?”
“I don't think so Limey, let's find an Allied unit first, then we can get back to our respective units.”
“Good idea, we've got a better chance of making it if we stick together you guys,”
“I just had a thought.”
“Uh-oh, the Limey is thinking.”
“No really, I just had a thought. Here we are stuck in this bleedin' dump and all we've got is our bundooks and one another.”
“'Bundook?”
“Yank, it's Brit slang for 'rifle'. Since the Brits don't have weapons unless they're in the military they invented a word that wasn't offensive to them.”
“Come on you blokes, stop taking the piss, I'm serious.”
“Go on then, enlighten us poor colonials.”
“Well I mean, a Brit, a Yank and a Canadian are in this ruined house during the war...”
“Now he's going to tell a joke.”
“Weird Limey humor – oh sorry, did I pronounce “humour” wrong?”
“Nope, you say it alright, it's your spelling that stinks.”
“Bloody hell, we are supposed to be Allies you know you blokes.”
“Tell that to the brass, there's more fighting between them than between us and the Krauts.”
“You mean Germans.”
“We call them 'Krauts'”.
“Not too original eh?”
“Well we're too busy fightin' 'em to come up with fancy nicknames.”
“Anyway as I said, we're stuck in this dump and trying to get back to our lines. It struck me as being a metaphor”.
“Hey I'm a farm boy from Saskatchewan, we don't do big words.”
“He means, Canuck, that the three of us stuck here is like how it is in the whole war, it's us against the Krauts.”
“So what's his point?”
“My point, if I may interrupt, is that we only have each other to rely on.”
“Yeah, no kidding!”
“But we can still take the piss out of each other”
“He means we mock each other, gently.”
“I know what he means Canuck, I got the context worked out.”
“But, d'you think we'll forget all this one day?”
“Not a chance Limey, not a chance, we're Allies.”
“We're like family.”
“Yes family at Christmas, blimey you ought to see my lot at Christmas, booze and squabbling for three days it is.”
“Okay, stow it you guys, time to get outa here. Let's go. I gotta get back to Easy Company, got to see what they're up to without me.”
“Righto Sarge, we're behind you.”
“That's what he's frightened of Limey”
“I ain't frightened of nothin'...well maybe my wife.”
“No argument from me Sarge. Sarge? I can't keep calling you Sarge can I? Have you got a name?”
“Sure do Limey, it's Frank, but you can call me Rock.”
“Sergeant Rock, hah, sounds like something you'd find in a comic.”
“And that's about your level of reading Canuck farmboy.”
“There he goes again, hey we're supposed to be friends Yank.”
“Friends? Heck no, we're Allies, is all.”
“Bloody colonials, I'll never understand 'em.”
“Let's go you guys! Geronimo!”