Guns - a list

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Today I've begun a list of incidents of gun violence, It is in response to a thread begun by PoliticalChic who posted on page one of her thread Lott Guns Down Costas! this:

3. ...what Costas ignores is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year. And that's not even mentioning the roughly 2 million times a year that people use guns defensively.

I don't believe her. So herein is the challenge. Every day I will post incidents of gun violence and she - or anyone who pleases - can post evidence in support of her allegation.

1. 12-08) 19:59 PST OAKLAND -- Oakland police were looking for a suspect Saturday afternoon who fatally shot a man near Jack London Square.

The shooting occurred around 2:45 p.m. on the 400 block of Third Street, just south of Broadway. Witnesses saw the suspect flee in a vehicle, according to police.

The neighborhood is a mix of historic produce warehouses, upscale condominiums, cafes and restaurants. Crime in the area is unusual, although in July gunfire erupted outside a local movie theater, injuring five people

and,
2. 3 dead in Calif. Indian reservation shooting
Updated 9:56 a.m., Sunday, December 9, 2012

PORTERVILLE, Calif. (AP) — Three people died and four others, including two young girls, were wounded after a shooting on an Indian reservation in Central California, authorities said.

and,

3. (12-09) 06:51 PST ANTIOCH -- A 43-year-old man was shot dead outside his Antioch home, police said Sunday.

The victim, whose name was not immediately released, was shot numerous times outside his home on the 2300 block of Banyan Way north of Highway 4 about 10:40 p.m. Saturday, police said. Officers were alerted to the shooting by the man's girlfriend.


All three posted on SFGate this morning.

See: SFGate: San Francisco Bay Area - News, Sports, Business, Entertainment, Classifieds - SFGate

BTW, anyone who wants to peruse their local news to post gun violence or incidents where a gun was responsible for saving lives or property, please do.
 
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Today I've begun a list of incidents of gun violence, It is in response to a thread begun by PoliticalChic who posted on page one of her thread Lott Guns Down Costas! this:

3. ...what Costas ignores is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year. And that's not even mentioning the roughly 2 million times a year that people use guns defensively.

I don't believe her. So herein is the challenge. Every day I will post incidents of gun violence and she - or anyone who pleases - can post evidence in support of her allegation.

1. 12-08) 19:59 PST OAKLAND -- Oakland police were looking for a suspect Saturday afternoon who fatally shot a man near Jack London Square.

The shooting occurred around 2:45 p.m. on the 400 block of Third Street, just south of Broadway. Witnesses saw the suspect flee in a vehicle, according to police.

The neighborhood is a mix of historic produce warehouses, upscale condominiums, cafes and restaurants. Crime in the area is unusual, although in July gunfire erupted outside a local movie theater, injuring five people

and,
2. 3 dead in Calif. Indian reservation shooting
Updated 9:56 a.m., Sunday, December 9, 2012

PORTERVILLE, Calif. (AP) — Three people died and four others, including two young girls, were wounded after a shooting on an Indian reservation in Central California, authorities said.

and,

3. (12-09) 06:51 PST ANTIOCH -- A 43-year-old man was shot dead outside his Antioch home, police said Sunday.

The victim, whose name was not immediately released, was shot numerous times outside his home on the 2300 block of Banyan Way north of Highway 4 about 10:40 p.m. Saturday, police said. Officers were alerted to the shooting by the man's girlfriend.


All three posted on SFGate this morning.

See: SFGate: San Francisco Bay Area - News, Sports, Business, Entertainment, Classifieds - SFGate

BTW, anyone who wants to peruse their local news to post gun violence or incidents where a gun was responsible for saving lives or property, please do.

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Here's what happens when Progressives rule over unarmed citizens

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On national television, you can talk about the sordid details of your sex life, the depth of your religious piety or your belief that an organization that no longer exists, Acorn, stole the 2012 presidential election — a fantasy held by half of Republicans. You can call climate change a hoax, you can say the moon landing never happened, you can even praise Alex Rodriguez, though you shouldn’t.

But you cannot talk about the 300 million or more guns circulating in private hands in the United States. The most armed society in the world, ranked first among 179 nations in the rate of gun ownership, had 9,146 gun homicides in 2009. The same year, Canada had 173. But don’t bring that up.

In Florida, it was against the law — until the law was blocked by a federal judge last summer — for hospital doctors to even ask about firearms ownership of victims, even though gunshot wounds account for 1 in 25 emergency room visits.

Conservatives complain about anti-free-speech vigilantes who keep incendiary voices of the right from being heard on college campuses, and they have a valid point. But some of these same First Amendment defenders are the first to smother any talk about the American weapons culture. The gun gag rules.

A gun in the home is 12 times more likely to result in the death of a household member, or a visitor, than an intruder, a 2010 study by the official journal of the Southern Medical Association found.


The Great Gun Gag - NYTimes.com
 
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notice the robbers fired first.

[ame=http://youtu.be/Hi7_uiAUEa4]Armed robbery goes wrong, shootout in Texas convenience store, caught on camera - YouTube[/ame]
 
Firearm-related violence vastly increases expenditures for health care, services for the disabled, insurance, and our criminal justice system," writes Dr. Steven Lippmann of University of Louisville School of Medicine, and colleagues. "The bills are paid by taxpayers and those who buy insurance."

Based on a review of the available scientific data, Dr. Lippmann and co-authors conclude that the dangers of having a gun at home far outweigh the safety benefits. Research shows that access to guns greatly increases the risk of death and firearm-related violence. A gun in the home is twelve times more likely to result in the death of a household member or visitor than an intruder.

Guns in homes can increase risk of death and firearm-related violence
 
Firearm-related violence vastly increases expenditures for health care, services for the disabled, insurance, and our criminal justice system," writes Dr. Steven Lippmann of University of Louisville School of Medicine, and colleagues. "The bills are paid by taxpayers and those who buy insurance."

Based on a review of the available scientific data, Dr. Lippmann and co-authors conclude that the dangers of having a gun at home far outweigh the safety benefits. Research shows that access to guns greatly increases the risk of death and firearm-related violence. A gun in the home is twelve times more likely to result in the death of a household member or visitor than an intruder.

Guns in homes can increase risk of death and firearm-related violence

So far so much bull shit.
 
The backlash "aimed" at Bob Costas over his gun remarks is revealing on many levels ("Costas expected flak on gun remarks," Dec. 4). A segment of our country has become so paranoid and delusional that their Second Amendment rights are about to be taken away (when there is no proof of this at all) that they self-righteously have no qualms over taking away Mr. Costas' First Amendment rights of free speech.

Mr. Costas did not promote gun control or restricting guns from hunters. He simply voiced an opinion about the "gun culture" in our society.
Problem with guns in society comes from within us : Stltoday
 
Here's what happens when Progressive rule unarmed subjects: Nazi Germany, Mao's China, Stalin's Russia, Pol Pot, etc
 
What percent of guns in the U.S. are used in crimes each year?
 
The backlash "aimed" at Bob Costas over his gun remarks is revealing on many levels ("Costas expected flak on gun remarks," Dec. 4). A segment of our country has become so paranoid and delusional that their Second Amendment rights are about to be taken away (when there is no proof of this at all) that they self-righteously have no qualms over taking away Mr. Costas' First Amendment rights of free speech.

Mr. Costas did not promote gun control or restricting guns from hunters. He simply voiced an opinion about the "gun culture" in our society.
Problem with guns in society comes from within us : Stltoday

You are such an idiot I do recall him saying if the shooter had not killed the victim and then used it on himself he woyld be here today.
Only people I know of that use "if he had not had gun" mare gun grabbers.
I say if the victim would have had a gun she would be alive today.
 
GUNS from other states have a tragic habit of winding up on New Jersey streets. Many land in what law enforcement have dubbed the Passaic River Corridor, the stretch between Newark and Paterson that is fertile ground for gun runners.

Since May, federal, state, county and local law enforcement agencies have worked hard to crack down on gun traffickers and the dangerous merchandise they carry. The unprecedented collaboration between agencies and departments has netted 76 guns and brought 405 arrests, the state Attorney General's Office announced this week.

Until other states tighten up their gun laws to prevent, for example, straw purchasers in states that don't require permits from buying guns and selling them to gun runners. That can best happen by governors of states with strong laws, like New Jersey, encouraging their counterparts in other states to match the tougher laws.


Ohio Gov. John Kasich signed a law last year to allow people to carry concealed weapons into bars and other places that serve alcohol, joining Arizona and Tennessee. Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana signed a law in 2010 allowing guns into houses of worship. North Dakota, Texas, Maine and a raft of other states allow employees to bring a gun to work as long as it stays locked in the car. The Wisconsin Senate now allows members to carry guns on the floor, while the state Assembly allows guns in the public viewing galleries.



The Record: Stopping guns - NorthJersey.com
 
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Today I've begun a list of incidents of gun violence, It is in response to a thread begun by PoliticalChic who posted on page one of her thread Lott Guns Down Costas! this:

3. ...what Costas ignores is that guns save a lot more lives than they cost each year. And that's not even mentioning the roughly 2 million times a year that people use guns defensively.

I don't believe her. So herein is the challenge. Every day I will post incidents of gun violence and she - or anyone who pleases - can post evidence in support of her allegation.

1. 12-08) 19:59 PST OAKLAND -- Oakland police were looking for a suspect Saturday afternoon who fatally shot a man near Jack London Square.

The shooting occurred around 2:45 p.m. on the 400 block of Third Street, just south of Broadway. Witnesses saw the suspect flee in a vehicle, according to police.

The neighborhood is a mix of historic produce warehouses, upscale condominiums, cafes and restaurants. Crime in the area is unusual, although in July gunfire erupted outside a local movie theater, injuring five people

and,
2. 3 dead in Calif. Indian reservation shooting
Updated 9:56 a.m., Sunday, December 9, 2012

PORTERVILLE, Calif. (AP) — Three people died and four others, including two young girls, were wounded after a shooting on an Indian reservation in Central California, authorities said.

and,

3. (12-09) 06:51 PST ANTIOCH -- A 43-year-old man was shot dead outside his Antioch home, police said Sunday.

The victim, whose name was not immediately released, was shot numerous times outside his home on the 2300 block of Banyan Way north of Highway 4 about 10:40 p.m. Saturday, police said. Officers were alerted to the shooting by the man's girlfriend.


All three posted on SFGate this morning.

See: SFGate: San Francisco Bay Area - News, Sports, Business, Entertainment, Classifieds - SFGate

BTW, anyone who wants to peruse their local news to post gun violence or incidents where a gun was responsible for saving lives or property, please do.

You don't believe in common sense, so you decided to demonstrate your intelligence by posting drivel. can I ask why, or would that strain your ability to regurgitate stupidity?
 

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