Guns a growing problem in gun free Britain....

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Ah yes, nothing like a gun free country, where all the legal citizens arent allowed to carry a weapon so are like the Jews of Adolph Hitler's time. Oh yeah, the criminals can get guns as they always seem to find a way, thus having innocent people gunned down. It isnt a statistic, it is the slow culling of the human race through the New World Order.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Its not a problem dickhead. It actually shows that we control these things .In the UK we send gun dealers to jail Imagine how bad it would be if people could buy their guns in the supermarket. Thats right we dont have to imagine. We can see it unfolding in gun crazy America.

 

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Its not a problem dickhead. It actually shows that we control these things .In the UK we send gun dealers to jail Imagine how bad it would be if people could buy their guns in the supermarket. Thats right we dont have to imagine. We can see it unfolding in gun crazy America.

You can't buy guns in supermarkets dipshit.....and as with guns, if your law enforcement stops 10 at the border another 100 slipped through......

You have been lucky.....luck does not show your gun control works.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Its not a problem dickhead. It actually shows that we control these things .In the UK we send gun dealers to jail Imagine how bad it would be if people could buy their guns in the supermarket. Thats right we dont have to imagine. We can see it unfolding in gun crazy America.

You can't buy guns in supermarkets dipshit.....and as with guns, if your law enforcement stops 10 at the border another 100 slipped through......

You have been lucky.....luck does not show your gun control works.

You know 2aguy, what you just said sounded like our border problem with Radical Islam. Law enforcement stops 100, but all it takes is that 1 asshole with a gun or bomb, and many innocent people have their day ruined.. Tommy the twit, is a Radical Muslim lover, which is why he always bad mouths the US with our weapons...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Its not a problem dickhead. It actually shows that we control these things .In the UK we send gun dealers to jail Imagine how bad it would be if people could buy their guns in the supermarket. Thats right we dont have to imagine. We can see it unfolding in gun crazy America.

I have never met a weapon, I didnt like, unlike many high and righteous Brits, who thought they were so superior. I always have to remind them about, how we fucking kicked their asses, not once, but twice....And then had to save it twice...

 

[BlackFlag]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Britian has never been gun free. Guns are becoming a problem because there are now more guns in Britain than ever before. Complacency is dangerous.

 

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Britian has never been gun free. Guns are becoming a problem because there are now more guns in Britain than ever before. Complacency is dangerous.

Wrong....guns are a problem because only the criminals have them. Guns are essentially banned for anyone but the rich and connected.....if you own one of the few bird hunting shotguns allowed, you can't even have it accessible for self defense. Criminals....get all the guns they need.

 

[ph3iron]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

So what is their gun death rate v's ours??
I seem to have missed it

 

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

So what is their gun death rate v's ours??
I seem to have missed it

And you did miss it..... gun murder in Britain has always been low, long before they took guns away from law abiding people...... but gun crime...is going up, which means criminals are getting more guns after banning them, they just don't use them to commit murder....rape, robbery and torture...sure thing, they just don't cross that line into murder...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Britian has never been gun free. Guns are becoming a problem because there are now more guns in Britain than ever before. Complacency is dangerous.

Wrong....guns are a problem because only the criminals have them. Guns are essentially banned for anyone but the rich and connected.....if you own one of the few bird hunting shotguns allowed, you can't even have it accessible for self defense. Criminals....get all the guns they need.

This you thick fuxcker.

 

[ph3iron]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

So what is their gun death rate v's ours??
I seem to have missed it

And you did miss it..... gun murder in Britain has always been low, long before they took guns away from law abiding people...... but gun crime...is going up, which means criminals are getting more guns after banning them, they just don't use them to commit murder....rape, robbery and torture...sure thing, they just don't cross that line into murder...

So are they more violent than us???
So why do you think we are the most violent.?
Convict and slave owner founders?
You seek to spend all your time on countries that are way less violent than us.
I Don't get it
The last thing I would do is whine about violence in countries I never lived in

 

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

Britian has never been gun free. Guns are becoming a problem because there are now more guns in Britain than ever before. Complacency is dangerous.

Wrong....guns are a problem because only the criminals have them. Guns are essentially banned for anyone but the rich and connected.....if you own one of the few bird hunting shotguns allowed, you can't even have it accessible for self defense. Criminals....get all the guns they need.

This you thick fuxcker.

Again with the gun murder? You keep being told that Britain had a low gun murder rate before they banned guns....which means that criminals didn't use guns to commit murder before they banned guns for law abiding people....then, after they banned guns, the gun murder rate spiked, then returned to the same level as before, showing that gun control has no bearing on the intent of British criminals to murder their victims....

And as more Americans own and carry guns our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you explain that.

As to our gun murder rate in general...it is only high because tiny areas of our democrat political party controlled cities keep letting known, violent, gun criminals out of jail over and over again....for some reason normal people can't understand. They keep doing it, then use it to push gun control. In places not controlled by the democrat political party, gun crime is low....as low as or lower than Europe.

Analysis | The surprising way gun violence is dividing America

In the most Democratic regions, gun violence is more often committed against another, crimes that probably generate more news coverage and fear. In the most Republican areas, it is more often committed against oneself, suicides that may not attract as much attention.

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As the below charts show, Democratic areas (measured by the party that controls the congressional district) are far more likely to experience almost all forms of malicious gun violence than Republican areas.

D.C...
DC Won’t Allow Concealed Carry, But Takes It Easy On Armed, Violent Criminals

The problems stem from the city’s Youth Rehabilitation Act, legislation implemented in the 1980s to provide leniency to criminal offenders under the age of 22, even violent ones, with murder convictions being the only exception. It allows judges to disregard mandatory minimums meant to dissuade criminals, often to disastrous effects. The homicide rate spiked by 54 percent in the District in 2015, and 22 of the murderers were previously sentenced for crimes under the Youth Rehabilitation Act, according to an investigation by The Washington Post.

A man released on probation in 2015 under the law was involved in the July shooting death of Deeniquia Dodds, a transgender man. Just over 120 people previously sentenced under the Youth Rehabilitation Act have subsequently been convicted of murder since 2010.

“I knew they were going to let me off easy,” Tavon Pinkney, an 18-year old convicted of homicide in 2015, told The Washington Post regarding his previous sentencing under the youth law. “Nothing changed … They just gave me the Youth Act and let me go right back out there. They ain’t really care.”

 

[2aguy]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

So what is their gun death rate v's ours??
I seem to have missed it

And you did miss it..... gun murder in Britain has always been low, long before they took guns away from law abiding people...... but gun crime...is going up, which means criminals are getting more guns after banning them, they just don't use them to commit murder....rape, robbery and torture...sure thing, they just don't cross that line into murder...

So are they more violent than us???
So why do you think we are the most violent.?
Convict and slave owner founders?
You seek to spend all your time on countries that are way less violent than us.
I Don't get it
The last thing I would do is whine about violence in countries I never lived in

Britain is not less violent than we are, in fact, they are more violent by their crime statistics. They just don't commit murder as often......but that is changing....

World War 1 and 2 devastated their societies and slowed down their growth..... their young men killed in both wars...now, their social welfare states have created a situation, like ours, where young teenage girls are raising young males without fathers, whose only role models are now gang members and rap artists....sound familiar? They are also importing violent 3rd world males from around the world....who need guns to protect their drug territories.....

Add to that, the attack on British police, the reduction in manpower and resources and tying their hands with charges of racism, and the enforcement of Politically Correct policies....sound familiar?

They are already experiencing an increase in knife murder by teenagers.....do you think that they will hesitate to use illegal guns in the future?

 

[BlackFlag]

Thank you Tommy Tainant for bringing this article to my attention.....

From a Czech warehouse to a street near you: the journey of a gun

Much of the debate surrounding the UK’s rise in violent offences has concentrated on knife crime. Yet running quietly parallel to the discourse on reducing knife use, senior police officers warn that many of the metrics measuring firearms are moving the same way.


Recorded firearm offences in England and Wales rose nearly a quarter to 6,375 offences last year, while the number of people shot dead increased by a fifth. Ballistics intelligence has mapped the highest number of firearm discharge incidents for five years; the number of weapons seized suggests the volume of firearms on Britain’s streets is at its highest in almost a decade. One reason, say experts, is traceable to eastern Europe and outlets like the one next door to Hlučín’s sports bar.

One constant in the perpetually evolving ecosystem of crime is the gun itself. The more lethal the weapon, the higher its owner’s status, and the acquisition of a handgun that can fire rapidly is a shared ambition among violent criminals. “There’s a genuine status in the type of firearm as much as the firearm itself,” says Helen Poole, a firearms expert at Northampton University. The latest intelligence assessment estimates there are 750 organised crime groups and urban street gangs “involved with guns” in the UK. This despite the fact that the country has some of the world’s most stringent gun laws, which means it requires ingenuity to obtain potent guns, along with an eye for spotting new opportunities.
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Ultimately what we have are teenagers buying prohibited weapons for €100-plus, converting them into lethal barrelled weapons and then walking around the streets shooting people.

“You don’t need to be wholly sophisticated to do this, that’s the risk. This is clearly an evolution and we are constantly having to deal with the threat that these guns pose.”

So what is their gun death rate v's ours??
I seem to have missed it

He'll die a thousand times before ever telling you that one