Gun murder in Toronto breaks record....

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    Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

    Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

    A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
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    The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.
     
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    Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s
     
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    First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

    Second....

    We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


    -- gun murder down 49%

    --gun crime down 75%

    --violent crime down 72%

    Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

    Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
     
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    Clearly they are doing something correct and we are not.

    More guns=more needless deaths. IT was the case yesterday, the case today, and will be the case forever.
     
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    Fewer households have guns today than before. It is easier in this country for a criminal to get a gun than anywhere in the world.
     
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    Wrong, on the first count....

    NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

    nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

    "In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

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    NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."


    https://monsterhunternation.com/201...ete-says-congressman-who-wants-to-nuke-omaha/

    Nobody really knows how many people in America own guns, or how many guns are here. The estimates range wildly. I’ve noticed a trend over recent years of the news media trying to minimize that number, to make it seem like it’s actually a very low percentage of Americans who own firearms, a fading cultural anomaly if you will, and to explain the one to two million new backgrounds checks done every month for new purchases, a handful of us just own a few hundred guns each.

    Uh huh…. Sure.

    While trying to make gun ownership seem like an oddball thing, I’ve seen the media come up with some truly silly estimates about the total number of guns in this country. The one that was going around earlier this year was really easy to debunk, because they used the number of NICS checks… Problem is, it didn’t take into account the millions guns sold before that (and they never really wear out), the fact that one NICS check can be used to buy multiples at a time, and that many US states (including the gun nuttiest) use their own state background check system, and don’t report to that federal number. Oh yeah, with advances in cheap machining, making your own guns at home has become increasingly popular.

    When pollsters call to ask us if and how many guns we own—we think about things like a congressmen talking about nuking us—and immediately lie our asses off. The biggest recurring joke in the gun community is that I don’t own any guns, because I lost them all in a freak canoe accident.

    So nobody really knows how many guns there are here, or how many of us own them. But the answer is A LOT.

    Recently the WaPo ran an article called Americans Vastly Overestimate the Number of Gun Owners. As with most WaPo articles, it was about 90% bullshit, but they are claiming that only 20 to 30 percent of Americans own guns. That may sound plausible if you live in Manhattan, but out here in flyover country, that’s downright laughable, but anyways, to make the idea of mass gun confiscation as plausible as possible, let’s run with that rosy figure. We’ll even take the lower one of 20%. (snort)

    Too bad America has over a third of a billion people, because even the unrealistic figure of 20% of 325 million is still a whopping 65 MILLION people. That’s about the same as the entire population of France. That’s about the same as the population of Great Britain, only with 500 times the firepower. Good thing we didn’t go with that 30%, because now the number is way bigger than the population of Germany (and you know what a pain beating them last time was!). Or ironically, about three times the population of Iraq.
     
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    Lol 6 in 10 Americans believe getting guns in hands of gun owners makes us safer. 6 in 10 or maybe more believe thoughts and prayers will make a magical being stop shootings too. Do a poll, how many Americans believe having over 400 million unnacounted for guns in this country has absolutely no correlation to gun crime?
     
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    And, of course, we don't need an opinion poll....we have 25 years of actual experience....... when the gun murder rate goes down, that means Americans are safer....when the gun crime rate goes down, that means Americans are safer, when the violent crime rate goes down, that means, factually, that Americans are safer.....

    All of that happened as more Americans own and actually carry guns....explain that.....

    We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


    -- gun murder down 49%

    --gun crime down 75%

    --violent crime down 72%

    Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

    Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
     
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    What kind of fools wants put a bunch of guns out on a street?
     
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    You for one
     

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