Gun murder in Toronto breaks record....

[2aguy]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
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The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

 

[BlackFlag]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

 

[2aguy]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

Second....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[candycorn]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

Clearly they are doing something correct and we are not.

More guns=more needless deaths. IT was the case yesterday, the case today, and will be the case forever.

 

[BlackFlag]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

Second....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households have guns today than before. It is easier in this country for a criminal to get a gun than anywhere in the world.

 

[2aguy]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

Second....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households have guns today than before. It is easier in this country for a criminal to get a gun than anywhere in the world.

Wrong, on the first count....

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

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NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."

https://monsterhunternation.com/201...ete-says-congressman-who-wants-to-nuke-omaha/

Nobody really knows how many people in America own guns, or how many guns are here. The estimates range wildly. I’ve noticed a trend over recent years of the news media trying to minimize that number, to make it seem like it’s actually a very low percentage of Americans who own firearms, a fading cultural anomaly if you will, and to explain the one to two million new backgrounds checks done every month for new purchases, a handful of us just own a few hundred guns each.

Uh huh…. Sure.

While trying to make gun ownership seem like an oddball thing, I’ve seen the media come up with some truly silly estimates about the total number of guns in this country. The one that was going around earlier this year was really easy to debunk, because they used the number of NICS checks… Problem is, it didn’t take into account the millions guns sold before that (and they never really wear out), the fact that one NICS check can be used to buy multiples at a time, and that many US states (including the gun nuttiest) use their own state background check system, and don’t report to that federal number. Oh yeah, with advances in cheap machining, making your own guns at home has become increasingly popular.

When pollsters call to ask us if and how many guns we own—we think about things like a congressmen talking about nuking us—and immediately lie our asses off. The biggest recurring joke in the gun community is that I don’t own any guns, because I lost them all in a freak canoe accident.

So nobody really knows how many guns there are here, or how many of us own them. But the answer is A LOT.

Recently the WaPo ran an article called Americans Vastly Overestimate the Number of Gun Owners. As with most WaPo articles, it was about 90% bullshit, but they are claiming that only 20 to 30 percent of Americans own guns. That may sound plausible if you live in Manhattan, but out here in flyover country, that’s downright laughable, but anyways, to make the idea of mass gun confiscation as plausible as possible, let’s run with that rosy figure. We’ll even take the lower one of 20%. (snort)

Too bad America has over a third of a billion people, because even the unrealistic figure of 20% of 325 million is still a whopping 65 MILLION people. That’s about the same as the entire population of France. That’s about the same as the population of Great Britain, only with 500 times the firepower. Good thing we didn’t go with that 30%, because now the number is way bigger than the population of Germany (and you know what a pain beating them last time was!). Or ironically, about three times the population of Iraq.

 

[BlackFlag]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

Second....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households have guns today than before. It is easier in this country for a criminal to get a gun than anywhere in the world.

Wrong, on the first count....

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

------

NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."

The 2nd Amendment is Obsolete, Says Congressman Who Wants To Nuke Omaha

Nobody really knows how many people in America own guns, or how many guns are here. The estimates range wildly. I’ve noticed a trend over recent years of the news media trying to minimize that number, to make it seem like it’s actually a very low percentage of Americans who own firearms, a fading cultural anomaly if you will, and to explain the one to two million new backgrounds checks done every month for new purchases, a handful of us just own a few hundred guns each.

Uh huh…. Sure.

While trying to make gun ownership seem like an oddball thing, I’ve seen the media come up with some truly silly estimates about the total number of guns in this country. The one that was going around earlier this year was really easy to debunk, because they used the number of NICS checks… Problem is, it didn’t take into account the millions guns sold before that (and they never really wear out), the fact that one NICS check can be used to buy multiples at a time, and that many US states (including the gun nuttiest) use their own state background check system, and don’t report to that federal number. Oh yeah, with advances in cheap machining, making your own guns at home has become increasingly popular.

When pollsters call to ask us if and how many guns we own—we think about things like a congressmen talking about nuking us—and immediately lie our asses off. The biggest recurring joke in the gun community is that I don’t own any guns, because I lost them all in a freak canoe accident.

So nobody really knows how many guns there are here, or how many of us own them. But the answer is A LOT.

Recently the WaPo ran an article called Americans Vastly Overestimate the Number of Gun Owners. As with most WaPo articles, it was about 90% bullshit, but they are claiming that only 20 to 30 percent of Americans own guns. That may sound plausible if you live in Manhattan, but out here in flyover country, that’s downright laughable, but anyways, to make the idea of mass gun confiscation as plausible as possible, let’s run with that rosy figure. We’ll even take the lower one of 20%. (snort)

Too bad America has over a third of a billion people, because even the unrealistic figure of 20% of 325 million is still a whopping 65 MILLION people. That’s about the same as the entire population of France. That’s about the same as the population of Great Britain, only with 500 times the firepower. Good thing we didn’t go with that 30%, because now the number is way bigger than the population of Germany (and you know what a pain beating them last time was!). Or ironically, about three times the population of Iraq.

Lol 6 in 10 Americans believe getting guns in hands of gun owners makes us safer. 6 in 10 or maybe more believe thoughts and prayers will make a magical being stop shootings too. Do a poll, how many Americans believe having over 400 million unnacounted for guns in this country has absolutely no correlation to gun crime?

 

[2aguy]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

First.....criminals in Canada are getting illegal guns....and using them more and more.....law abiding gun owners do not use their legal guns for crime, so depriving them of guns does not lower the gun crime rate.

Second....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households have guns today than before. It is easier in this country for a criminal to get a gun than anywhere in the world.

Wrong, on the first count....

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

------

NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."

The 2nd Amendment is Obsolete, Says Congressman Who Wants To Nuke Omaha

Nobody really knows how many people in America own guns, or how many guns are here. The estimates range wildly. I’ve noticed a trend over recent years of the news media trying to minimize that number, to make it seem like it’s actually a very low percentage of Americans who own firearms, a fading cultural anomaly if you will, and to explain the one to two million new backgrounds checks done every month for new purchases, a handful of us just own a few hundred guns each.

Uh huh…. Sure.

While trying to make gun ownership seem like an oddball thing, I’ve seen the media come up with some truly silly estimates about the total number of guns in this country. The one that was going around earlier this year was really easy to debunk, because they used the number of NICS checks… Problem is, it didn’t take into account the millions guns sold before that (and they never really wear out), the fact that one NICS check can be used to buy multiples at a time, and that many US states (including the gun nuttiest) use their own state background check system, and don’t report to that federal number. Oh yeah, with advances in cheap machining, making your own guns at home has become increasingly popular.

When pollsters call to ask us if and how many guns we own—we think about things like a congressmen talking about nuking us—and immediately lie our asses off. The biggest recurring joke in the gun community is that I don’t own any guns, because I lost them all in a freak canoe accident.

So nobody really knows how many guns there are here, or how many of us own them. But the answer is A LOT.

Recently the WaPo ran an article called Americans Vastly Overestimate the Number of Gun Owners. As with most WaPo articles, it was about 90% bullshit, but they are claiming that only 20 to 30 percent of Americans own guns. That may sound plausible if you live in Manhattan, but out here in flyover country, that’s downright laughable, but anyways, to make the idea of mass gun confiscation as plausible as possible, let’s run with that rosy figure. We’ll even take the lower one of 20%. (snort)

Too bad America has over a third of a billion people, because even the unrealistic figure of 20% of 325 million is still a whopping 65 MILLION people. That’s about the same as the entire population of France. That’s about the same as the population of Great Britain, only with 500 times the firepower. Good thing we didn’t go with that 30%, because now the number is way bigger than the population of Germany (and you know what a pain beating them last time was!). Or ironically, about three times the population of Iraq.

Lol 6 in 10 Americans believe getting guns in hands of gun owners makes us safer. 6 in 10 or maybe more believe thoughts and prayers will make a magical being stop shootings too. Do a poll, how many Americans believe having over 400 million unnacounted for guns in this country has absolutely no correlation to gun crime?

And, of course, we don't need an opinion poll....we have 25 years of actual experience....... when the gun murder rate goes down, that means Americans are safer....when the gun crime rate goes down, that means Americans are safer, when the violent crime rate goes down, that means, factually, that Americans are safer.....

All of that happened as more Americans own and actually carry guns....explain that.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[miketx]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

What kind of fools wants put a bunch of guns out on a street?

 

[BlackFlag]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

What kind of fools wants put a bunch of guns out on a street?

You for one

 

[miketx]

Better flood the streets with guns. That’ll surely bring down their murder rate, which is already much lower than the U.S.’s

What kind of fools wants put a bunch of guns out on a street?

You for one

Do you ever stop lying?

 

[Dragonlady]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
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The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

And yet its still far, far below that of the USA. Muggings are almost unheard of and accidental shootings are non-existant. The crime rate is far lower than the USA and the murder rate is far lower than the USA. Usually when this happens, the police do a pre-dawn raid for guns in the GTA, and arrest and jail the usual suspects and the problem solves itself.

50% of all of the guns on the streets in Canada are smuggled in from the USA which is a huge problem. But here's the difference. When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

You keep pointing to crime in other countries rising, but they're nowhere near where the US is now. This isn't working for you. All you're proving that Americans' easy access to guns is a root problem for your country.

 

[2aguy]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
---------
The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

And yet its still far, far below that of the USA. Muggings are almost unheard of and accidental shootings are non-existant. The crime rate is far lower than the USA and the murder rate is far lower than the USA. Usually when this happens, the police do a pre-dawn raid for guns in the GTA, and arrest and jail the usual suspects and the problem solves itself.

50% of all of the guns on the streets in Canada are smuggled in from the USA which is a huge problem. But here's the difference. When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

You keep pointing to crime in other countries rising, but they're nowhere near where the US is now. This isn't working for you. All you're proving that Americans' easy access to guns is a root problem for your country.

And yet, you still don't understand.... the criminals in Canada can get guns, as you just stated, they use their illegal guns, they just don't use them to commit murder as often as criminals in democrat party controlled cities do....so it isn't that they have guns, it is their decisions with those guns that are different.

When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

That doesn't make any sense, since the police in the U.S. can also easily determine if the individual with the gun is a criminal or a law abiding citizen....they simply run your name in the computer. This also means that any form of permit to carry a gun is silly and uneccesary...

 

[2aguy]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
---------
The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

And yet its still far, far below that of the USA. Muggings are almost unheard of and accidental shootings are non-existant. The crime rate is far lower than the USA and the murder rate is far lower than the USA. Usually when this happens, the police do a pre-dawn raid for guns in the GTA, and arrest and jail the usual suspects and the problem solves itself.

50% of all of the guns on the streets in Canada are smuggled in from the USA which is a huge problem. But here's the difference. When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

You keep pointing to crime in other countries rising, but they're nowhere near where the US is now. This isn't working for you. All you're proving that Americans' easy access to guns is a root problem for your country.

No...our problem is that we have a political party that keeps releasing violent, known,repeat gun offenders out of jail and prison.....their judges and politicians actively fight to keep these monsters loose on our streets....maybe you can explain why they do this since our gun crime is confined to tiny, tiny areas of cities controlled by the democrat party.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
---------
The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

And yet its still far, far below that of the USA. Muggings are almost unheard of and accidental shootings are non-existant. The crime rate is far lower than the USA and the murder rate is far lower than the USA. Usually when this happens, the police do a pre-dawn raid for guns in the GTA, and arrest and jail the usual suspects and the problem solves itself.

50% of all of the guns on the streets in Canada are smuggled in from the USA which is a huge problem. But here's the difference. When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

You keep pointing to crime in other countries rising, but they're nowhere near where the US is now. This isn't working for you. All you're proving that Americans' easy access to guns is a root problem for your country.

No...our problem is that we have a political party that keeps releasing violent, known,repeat gun offenders out of jail and prison.....their judges and politicians actively fight to keep these monsters loose on our streets....maybe you can explain why they do this since our gun crime is confined to tiny, tiny areas of cities controlled by the democrat party.

The USA has the highest incarceration rates in the world. How much more of your population needs to be incarcerated before you're "safe". Your problem is the easy access to guns, you just refuse to acknowledge it. It's driving your murder rate, your suicide rate, the rate of spousal homicides, and the numbers of mass killings you have.

Every time there is a spike in gun crime in the GTA, they issue warrants on the usual suspects: gang bangers, career criminals, and guys they know are carrying weapons, round up a couple of hundred of them, and the next year, the murder rate is cut in half. They get the guns off the street and like magic, the crime rate goes down.

You keep citing crime stats but the USA doesn't count its crimes the way other countries do. Only the most violent crimes are reported in your stats. Sexual assault is counted only when there is penetration. Other countries count groping, forced touching and other forms of sexual assault short of actual penetration as sexual assault.

Where we count two guys in a fist fight outside a bar that results in charges as a "violent assault", the US would only count it if one of the participants was hospitalized. This is why your comparisons of crimes in Britain and in the US show higher crime rates for some crimes than in the US. This is why your comparisons of crime rates in other countries have no validity whatsoever.

 

[2aguy]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
---------
The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

And yet its still far, far below that of the USA. Muggings are almost unheard of and accidental shootings are non-existant. The crime rate is far lower than the USA and the murder rate is far lower than the USA. Usually when this happens, the police do a pre-dawn raid for guns in the GTA, and arrest and jail the usual suspects and the problem solves itself.

50% of all of the guns on the streets in Canada are smuggled in from the USA which is a huge problem. But here's the difference. When the police roll up and see a gun, they KNOW it's a criminal, not a "good guy with a gun".

You keep pointing to crime in other countries rising, but they're nowhere near where the US is now. This isn't working for you. All you're proving that Americans' easy access to guns is a root problem for your country.

No...our problem is that we have a political party that keeps releasing violent, known,repeat gun offenders out of jail and prison.....their judges and politicians actively fight to keep these monsters loose on our streets....maybe you can explain why they do this since our gun crime is confined to tiny, tiny areas of cities controlled by the democrat party.

The USA has the highest incarceration rates in the world. How much more of your population needs to be incarcerated before you're "safe". Your problem is the easy access to guns, you just refuse to acknowledge it. It's driving your murder rate, your suicide rate, the rate of spousal homicides, and the numbers of mass killings you have.

Every time there is a spike in gun crime in the GTA, they issue warrants on the usual suspects: gang bangers, career criminals, and guys they know are carrying weapons, round up a couple of hundred of them, and the next year, the murder rate is cut in half. They get the guns off the street and like magic, the crime rate goes down.

You keep citing crime stats but the USA doesn't count its crimes the way other countries do. Only the most violent crimes are reported in your stats. Sexual assault is counted only when there is penetration. Other countries count groping, forced touching and other forms of sexual assault short of actual penetration as sexual assault.

Where we count two guys in a fist fight outside a bar that results in charges as a "violent assault", the US would only count it if one of the participants was hospitalized. This is why your comparisons of crimes in Britain and in the US show higher crime rates for some crimes than in the US. This is why your comparisons of crime rates in other countries have no validity whatsoever.

Wrong...we have the highest short term incarceration rates...gun criminals get out in less than 3 years.....when democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors let gun criminals off with light sentences, they end up getting innocent people killed....

We don't have a gun problem, we have a letting criminals out of jail problem....normal, law abiding gun owners of close to 600 million guns and over 17.25 million of those citizens who actually carry them for self defense are not using those guns for crime or murder......and of the idiots shooting people...90% of them have long histories of crime and violence and multiple felony convictions....and they are walking the streets because of the democrat party...

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong...we have the highest short term incarceration rates...gun criminals get out in less than 3 years.....when democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors let gun criminals off with light sentences, they end up getting innocent people killed....

Yeah, we can't lock up people for just "having" guns when we have so many people who actually USE them to kill, injure and rob people.

We don't have a gun problem, we have a letting criminals out of jail problem...

No, we have a gun problem. Too many guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them because the gun industry WANTS the bad guys to have guns. Then you'll be scared and want more, too.

The Gun Industry would spread the Zombie Virus if it increased gun sales.

.normal, law abiding gun owners of close to 600 million guns and over 17.25 million of those citizens who actually carry them for self defense are not using those guns for crime or murder..

Your numbers keep getting bigger and crazier.. the reality is, the percentage of gun owners is declining.

So what do the gun industry do? Why they double down on selling to the crazies!

 

[2aguy]

Wrong...we have the highest short term incarceration rates...gun criminals get out in less than 3 years.....when democrat judges, politicians and prosecutors let gun criminals off with light sentences, they end up getting innocent people killed....

Yeah, we can't lock up people for just "having" guns when we have so many people who actually USE them to kill, injure and rob people.

We don't have a gun problem, we have a letting criminals out of jail problem...

No, we have a gun problem. Too many guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them because the gun industry WANTS the bad guys to have guns. Then you'll be scared and want more, too.

The Gun Industry would spread the Zombie Virus if it increased gun sales.

.normal, law abiding gun owners of close to 600 million guns and over 17.25 million of those citizens who actually carry them for self defense are not using those guns for crime or murder..

Your numbers keep getting bigger and crazier.. the reality is, the percentage of gun owners is declining.

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So what do the gun industry do? Why they double down on selling to the crazies!

No...the number of gun owners willing to tell anonymous pollsters they own a gun is going down....especially after Sandy Hook when various news outlets decided they were justified in publishing the names and addresses of gun owners in their papers....

The democrat party is responsible for gun crime in this country with their policies on releasing violent, repeat gun offenders out into their districts.... law abiding gun owners are not using their guns for crime, the criminals that democrats release from prison are the ones using illegal guns for crime.

 

[JoeB131]

No...the number of gun owners willing to tell anonymous pollsters they own a gun is going down....especially after Sandy Hook when various news outlets decided they were justified in publishing the names and addresses of gun owners in their papers....

Okay, you tell yourself that buddy..

What i see is that my dad's generation, everyone had a hunting rifle, but in my generation, only the nuts own guns...

 

[AsherN]

Yep....gun crime in gun controlled Canada is going up...

Daylight shooting marks Toronto's 90th homicide this year — a grisly new record | CBC News

A man was shot to death in Scarborough on Sunday afternoon, according to Toronto police, a slaying that marks the city's 90th homicide this year — breaking a record that has stood since 1991.
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The shooting is the 90th slaying in Toronto this year, the most homicides in any one year the city has faced. The previous record was 89 killings in 1991.

That's 90 homicides, not gun homicides. And it includes the 10 killed in the van attack. That's in a city with a population of 3 million.