CDZ Gun law proposals, I oppose all of them, tell me how they actually would work.

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    Because the court has stated they are not, and the state and federal legislatures have stated they are not. That's how law works. I personally think a lot of prohibition laws are pointless and counter productive, but that does not make them go away or change their impact upon us.
     
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    We do not enforce the laws we have.
     
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    I would not. If he came to My house, then he is there to either dissuade Me of My opinion or to remove My legal rights.

    That anyone could believe they could do that is not open to friendly debate nor being softened with friendliness.

    The answer is simple. Close the door and move on with your life.
     
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    We covered this already and I conceded the point. Let's not change the definition now. Bearable means able to carry. The other phrases are justifications for the limitation of the right. I'm not the one not wanting to go where logic leads.

    At the time of the founding, as now, to "bear" meant to "carry." See Johnson 161; Webster; T. Sheridan, A Complete Dictionary of the English Language (1796); 2 Oxford English Dictionary 20 (2d ed. 1989) (hereinafter Oxford).When used with "arms," however, the term has a meaning that refers to carrying for a particular purpose—confrontation. In Muscarello v. United States, 524 U. S. 125 (1998), in the course of analyzing the meaning of "carries a firearm" in a federal criminal statute, JUSTICE GINSBURG wrote that "urely a most familiar meaning is, as the Constitution’s Second Amendment . . . indicate: ‘wear, bear, or carry . . . upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose . . . of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person.’" Id., at 143 (dissenting opinion)
     
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    Weird and I want my Geneva Convention Card given back!
     
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    That's not what the term means, as used in Heller.
     
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    I'm sorry -- I;m not sure how anything here addresses anything in my post.
    Please go back and try again.
     
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    As the term is used in Heller, "bearable arms" means firearms in common use for traditionally lawful purposes.
     
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