Gun Decision: More Questions...

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    1. "Heller endorsed bans on the carrying of concealed weapons, but said nothing about a right to carry weapons openly. Because the Second Amendment expressly protects the right to “bear” arms, as well as the right to “keep” arms, the text of the Constitution seems inconsistent with allowing the government to forbid both open and concealed carry of weapons. Such a ban would also be inconsistent with Heller’s emphasis on self-defense as the core of the Second Amendment right: most people are in much more danger of encountering dangerous criminals outside their homes than within them. But the issue remains open in the courts.

    2. Heller endorsed bans on carrying weapons in “sensitive places,” but articulated no test for identifying such locations, beyond a mention of government buildings and schools. McDonald reaffirms this…

    3. State and local jurisdictions, moreover, sometimes place very onerous administrative obstacles in the path of those who desire to keep or carry firearms. Such obstructionism may become more intense in those jurisdictions that would like to impose outright gun bans that the courts will no longer uphold."
    SCOTUSblog Thomas’ concurrence on the Privileges or Immunities Clause
     
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    I happen to agree with the intent of the decision, but it is interesting that a conservative court had to issue a statist decision (yes, incorporation is a liberal concept, not a states' right concept). This should have been handled by the states, the same as abortion.
     
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    What's so hard to understand about a federally guaranteed and protected right?
     
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    Dud, get being deliberately duddy. You know what incorporaton means. The decision invoked the 2d Amendment, an amend to prevent the Federal Government from infringing on a citizen's rights, to incorporate its provisions in state law. That, my friend, is a liberal maneuver. Next.
     
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    Two words, 14th amendment. Read it and admit you are wrong, you will feel better.
     
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    Wrong.

    You'd squeal "free press" like a stuck librul if your state tried to control the local newspapers, the way states and localities have attempted to disarm their citizenry.
     
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    Ya' know what...let's continue what passes for a thought in your post, and make this political.

    1. "Outside of the killings, we have one of the lowest crime rates in the country." - Marion Barry, mayor of Washington, D.C.

    2. "The more killing and homicides you have, the more havoc it prevents." - Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley

    3. "Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." - Diane Feinstein, who carried a concealed weapon after claiming to be the target of a terrorist group

    4. "And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion ..." Barack Obama

    5."The last time I checked, the Constitution said, 'of the people, by the people and for the people.' That's what the Declaration of Independence says." - Bill Clinton quoting The Gettysburg Address during a 1996 campaign stop

    6. "I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base." Sec'y of State Clinton


    Let me know if you need more Democrat wisdom...
     
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    #5 is the Gettysburg Address, not the DoI.
     
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    The Supreme Court is correcting a grave error that States, and certain City governments have been making for many years now. Many of these anti hand gun States, like New York City , Washington D.C
    have been infringing on Americans second amendment right to "Keep and bear arms". "This right shall
    not be infringed upon." This ruling is long over due. Now maybe all those gun control freaks and nuts,
    will find another issue to ask for a ban on.!!?
    Blanket bans are wrong.!!
     
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    Jason Lewis just pointed out the hypocrisy of the left very well today. Change the words "Gun Ownership" to "Abortion" and you will flip the entire dialogue on the left who refuse to let states control their own abortion laws... or welfare laws... or Health Care laws...

    The funny thing is of course, those three other things aren't rights, Gun Ownership is.

    huh... strange isn't it?
     

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