Gun control question

[GoneBezerk]

If you scumbag liberals are going to claim Buuuuuuuush did the same thing as Obamination. Buuuuuuuuush wanted assault weapons to flood into Mexico with no tracking of them......then why??

Why would Buuuuuuuuush do that?

When someone does something....there is a plan and a goal.

So if his plan was to flood Mexico with AK47s...what was the goal?

Buuuuuuuuush is the former Gov of Texas so he wouldn't like guns along the border killing people no matter their citizenship. Buuuuuush also sold himself to the hispanics on both sides of the border, he won elections with the American hispanic vote.

So please show us your fucked up minds.....tell us how you know Buuuuuuush did the same thing as Obamination and why.

Obamination wants a ban on guns or at least assault weapons so Mexican gangs/terrorists killing people along the border scares enough Americans to push for tougher gun laws. I don't recall Buuuuuuuush being anti-guns like Obamination, maybe wikipedia has some liberal tool that claims it somewhere.....

 

[Old Rocks]

People, it ain't about guns in Mexico. It is about 20 dead children in the US of A. It is about all the other shootings from Columbine to present. It is about the type of weopons that have been used in the majority of those shootings.

Now you 'Conservatives' can either help with solutions, or you can be road kill.

We need to get these guns out of circulation. However, there are millions of them out there. So how do we do it? Here one solution.

1. Require any one outside their home with an assault weopon to have the same license as someone with a fully automatic weopon. You are caught with an assault weopon and no license, the gun is confiscated and destroyed, you go to jail and have a felony count on your record.

2. If you store your guns carelessly, and they are taken and used in a crime, you own that crime.

3. It should be easier to get help for the mentally ill than buy a gun. We have to address the fact that there are very mentally ill people out there, and they need help before a crime is committed.

If we do not address this issue in a reasonable manner, there will be more atrocities like Sandy Hook, and it will be addressed in an unreasonable manner. As in there will be laws that simply outlaw the ownership of assault weopons, period. With severe penelties for having one. And there will be stringent laws on the ownership of the standard rifles that most hunters own today.

 

[hazlnut]

I say we create a reality show where all the people who have the guns that Bush sent to Mexico fight all the people who have the guns Obama sent to Mexico.

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Good one!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL....

The little trolls in the cesspool just hand their ass handed to them.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Yes a brain dead idiot like you believes a stupid comment to be true.

I say we create a reality show where all the people who have the guns that Bush sent to Mexico fight all the people who have the guns Obama sent to Mexico.

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Good one!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL....

The little trolls in the cesspool just hand their ass handed to them.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Idiot....this thread is pointing out the stupidity and hypocrisy of you liberal scum.

Obamination didn't care much about gun control when he armed Mexican gangs and terrorists along the border that have killed thousands of people. How many kids are in that number of dead??? You don't know and don't care.

Guns killing kids in Mexico with Obmination's fingerprints on them is just like the guns killing kids in CT at the hands of a madman.....both have madmen involved.

People, it ain't about guns in Mexico. It is about 20 dead children in the US of A. It is about all the other shootings from Columbine to present. It is about the type of weopons that have been used in the majority of those shootings.

Now you 'Conservatives' can either help with solutions, or you can be road kill.

We need to get these guns out of circulation. However, there are millions of them out there. So how do we do it? Here one solution.

1. Require any one outside their home with an assault weopon to have the same license as someone with a fully automatic weopon. You are caught with an assault weopon and no license, the gun is confiscated and destroyed, you go to jail and have a felony count on your record.

2. If you store your guns carelessly, and they are taken and used in a crime, you own that crime.

3. It should be easier to get help for the mentally ill than buy a gun. We have to address the fact that there are very mentally ill people out there, and they need help before a crime is committed.

If we do not address this issue in a reasonable manner, there will be more atrocities like Sandy Hook, and it will be addressed in an unreasonable manner. As in there will be laws that simply outlaw the ownership of assault weopons, period. With severe penelties for having one. And there will be stringent laws on the ownership of the standard rifles that most hunters own today.

 

[hazlnut]

Yes a brain dead idiot like you believes a stupid comment to be true.

If you thought it had no merit, you would have ignored it.

Or at least come up with something more clever.

I thought during the holidays, Walmart was going to let you work the door? As long as you keep Mr.Peepers from going out Bezerk outside your pants.

 

[BlindBoo]

Eban reveals that the ATF never intentionally walked the guns, save one important exception that we’ll get to momentarily. Instead, they were unable to obtain warrants to arrest the purchasers. Prosecutors were extremely wary of arresting straw buyers, either for fear of retribution from the NRA—who hammered ATF in 2005 for seizing guns from a straw buyer—or because they were gun aficionados themselves. One local prosecutor was reportedly seen behind a table at a gun show and was philosophically opposed to those arrests.

So, unable to arrest the buyers, the agent running Fast and Furious resigned his unit to simply tracking the purchases in hopes of using the evidence later. This is a world away from purposefully letting the guns go, and Eban chronicles numerous efforts by the ATF agents to overcome bureaucratic and legal obstacles and arrest the buyers—they just weren’t able to do it.

The one exception is agent John Dodson, who used $2,500 in taxpayer money to buy six guns from a local dealer, passed them to a trafficker, and then took a long vacation. This is the only proven instance of gun-walking under Fast and Furious—and Dodson, incredibly, was the “brave whistleblower” who exposed the entire operation.

Eban reports that Dodson hated his boss Dave Voth because Voth supposedly “treated him like shit.” Dodson disobeyed a direct order from Voth not to walk guns in this manner—and then, a few months later, went to CBS News with allegations that the ATF “ordered” him to walk guns and that in fact it was a common practice there.

CBS News never fully checked out his story, and never talked to Voth—and still hasn’t retracted the piece.

Facts Get in the Way of GOP's Fast and Furious Investigation | The Nation

 

[GoneBezerk]

The intent of Fast & Furious was to unleash assault weapons on the border to drive up the call for gun control in the US. Mexican gangs "armed" by US gun dealers was going to be the headline....

The cover up of that is what Congress is after.

Holder and his goons are going after field agents in order to cover their own asses while they hide and shred their emails back in DC.

Eban reveals that the ATF never intentionally walked the guns, save one important exception that we’ll get to momentarily. Instead, they were unable to obtain warrants to arrest the purchasers. Prosecutors were extremely wary of arresting straw buyers, either for fear of retribution from the NRA—who hammered ATF in 2005 for seizing guns from a straw buyer—or because they were gun aficionados themselves. One local prosecutor was reportedly seen behind a table at a gun show and was philosophically opposed to those arrests.

So, unable to arrest the buyers, the agent running Fast and Furious resigned his unit to simply tracking the purchases in hopes of using the evidence later. This is a world away from purposefully letting the guns go, and Eban chronicles numerous efforts by the ATF agents to overcome bureaucratic and legal obstacles and arrest the buyers—they just weren’t able to do it.

The one exception is agent John Dodson, who used $2,500 in taxpayer money to buy six guns from a local dealer, passed them to a trafficker, and then took a long vacation. This is the only proven instance of gun-walking under Fast and Furious—and Dodson, incredibly, was the “brave whistleblower” who exposed the entire operation.

Eban reports that Dodson hated his boss Dave Voth because Voth supposedly “treated him like shit.” Dodson disobeyed a direct order from Voth not to walk guns in this manner—and then, a few months later, went to CBS News with allegations that the ATF “ordered” him to walk guns and that in fact it was a common practice there.

CBS News never fully checked out his story, and never talked to Voth—and still hasn’t retracted the piece.

Facts Get in the Way of GOP's Fast and Furious Investigation | The Nation

 

[GoneBezerk]

Insane scum like you don't know you're insane because...you are insane.

Maybe when someone kicks in your head at the mall someday, that might shake up the marbles in your head.

Yes a brain dead idiot like you believes a stupid comment to be true.

If you thought it had no merit, you would have ignored it.

Or at least come up with something more clever.

I thought during the holidays, Walmart was going to let you work the door? As long as you keep Mr.Peepers from going out Bezerk outside your pants.

 

[BlindBoo]

The intent of Fast & Furious was to unleash assault weapons on the border to drive up the call for gun control in the US. Mexican gangs "armed" by US gun dealers was going to be the headline....

The cover up of that is what Congress is after.

Holder and his goons are going after field agents in order to cover their own asses while they hide and shred their emails back in DC.

Eban reveals that the ATF never intentionally walked the guns, save one important exception that we’ll get to momentarily. Instead, they were unable to obtain warrants to arrest the purchasers. Prosecutors were extremely wary of arresting straw buyers, either for fear of retribution from the NRA—who hammered ATF in 2005 for seizing guns from a straw buyer—or because they were gun aficionados themselves. One local prosecutor was reportedly seen behind a table at a gun show and was philosophically opposed to those arrests.

So, unable to arrest the buyers, the agent running Fast and Furious resigned his unit to simply tracking the purchases in hopes of using the evidence later. This is a world away from purposefully letting the guns go, and Eban chronicles numerous efforts by the ATF agents to overcome bureaucratic and legal obstacles and arrest the buyers—they just weren’t able to do it.

The one exception is agent John Dodson, who used $2,500 in taxpayer money to buy six guns from a local dealer, passed them to a trafficker, and then took a long vacation. This is the only proven instance of gun-walking under Fast and Furious—and Dodson, incredibly, was the “brave whistleblower” who exposed the entire operation.

Eban reports that Dodson hated his boss Dave Voth because Voth supposedly “treated him like shit.” Dodson disobeyed a direct order from Voth not to walk guns in this manner—and then, a few months later, went to CBS News with allegations that the ATF “ordered” him to walk guns and that in fact it was a common practice there.

CBS News never fully checked out his story, and never talked to Voth—and still hasn’t retracted the piece.

Facts Get in the Way of GOP's Fast and Furious Investigation | The Nation

Most of the weapons used by the cartels get used in Mexico on Mexicans. Most of the US couldn't give a air-born rodents behind about violence in Mexico against Mexicans. Either the White House has a very poor understanding of how Americans feel or you need one of these.

Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie

 

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[BlindBoo]

Most of the cartels US weapons come from legal sales to the Mexican Military and Police. A practice that goes back many administrations.