Gun control doesn't work in Japan either...19 year old police officer murders supervisor, with a gun

[2aguy]

Japan, with their culture and police state, have stopped most of their gun crime.....long prison sentences for using a gun in a crime or for criminal possession of a gun, have also stopped yakuza from using guns...

Sadly, here in the U.S., the democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail, who then go on to commit gun murder.....then, they make laws against people who don't use their legal guns to commit crime...

Some would call that insane.....and it is.....

You can't own a hand gun in the U.S. at 19.......and yet this Japanese teen used one to commit murder.......

So...anti gunners...what gun law in Japan kept this 19 year old with 2 hand guns, his own and the one from the guy he murdered, from going to a Japanese school and killing a bunch of kids?

Teenage officer arrested after colleague found shot to death in Shiga police box | The Japan Times

A 19-year-old police officer was arrested early Thursday on suspicion of shooting a senior colleague to death at a police box in Shiga Prefecture, investigators said.

Sergeant Akira Imoto, 41, was found collapsed at around 8:45 p.m. Wednesday at the police box in front of Kawase Station in the city of Hikone, police said. He was later pronounced dead at a hospital.





Investigative sources said verbal abuse by the senior officer may have been a motive for the killing.

At around 1:35 a.m. on Thursday police detained the 19-year-old officer who had been on duty with Imoto in the neighboring town of Aisho. The suspect was on the run, armed with a handgun, for several hours.

Investigative sources said the teenage officer confessed to shooting Imoto, who was in charge of training him, because the senior officer “yelled at” him.

Imoto is believed to have been shot from behind, as he was found in a seated position with his upper body slumped forward over a desk. His handgun was holstered and showed no signs of having been used.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'm convinced!

 

[BULLDOG]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

 

[Brain357]

Their homicide rate is .31. You really are a joke.

 

[2aguy]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

what stopped him from shooting up a Japanese School? Which Japanese gun law stopped him?

They stopped criminals from using guns by locking them up for 15 years for just possessing a gun, with add ons for bullets and more guns......our democrats keep letting our gun criminals out of jail in less than 3 years....then they blame law abiding gun owners for gun crime....

 

[Brain357]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

what stopped him from shooting up a Japanese School? Which Japanese gun law stopped him?

They stopped criminals from using guns by locking them up for 15 years for just possessing a gun, with add ons for bullets and more guns......our democrats keep letting our gun criminals out of jail in less than 3 years....then they blame law abiding gun owners for gun crime....

When was their last school shooting?

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is .31. You really are a joke.

And that has nothing to do with their gun laws, dumb ass.....their culture and police state keeps their people from killing each other even with guns....with a 98% conviction rate, you are going to jail in Japan if you are arrested...not here, the democrats can't let you out of jail fast enough....

 

[BULLDOG]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

what stopped him from shooting up a Japanese School? Which Japanese gun law stopped him?

They stopped criminals from using guns by locking them up for 15 years for just possessing a gun, with add ons for bullets and more guns......our democrats keep letting our gun criminals out of jail in less than 3 years....then they blame law abiding gun owners for gun crime....

Did you miss the part that said he was a cop? Cops have guns.

 

[2aguy]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

what stopped him from shooting up a Japanese School? Which Japanese gun law stopped him?

They stopped criminals from using guns by locking them up for 15 years for just possessing a gun, with add ons for bullets and more guns......our democrats keep letting our gun criminals out of jail in less than 3 years....then they blame law abiding gun owners for gun crime....

When was their last school shooting?

Their culture prevents them. Our culture allows them. Conformity as a tool of social control keeps their people in line...

 

[2aguy]

Cops shooting cops. What was your point again?

what stopped him from shooting up a Japanese School? Which Japanese gun law stopped him?

They stopped criminals from using guns by locking them up for 15 years for just possessing a gun, with add ons for bullets and more guns......our democrats keep letting our gun criminals out of jail in less than 3 years....then they blame law abiding gun owners for gun crime....

Did you miss the part that said he was a cop? Cops have guns.

Did you miss my question about which Japanese law stopped him from murdering children in a school?

 

[Brain357]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

 

[BULLDOG]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

 

[BULLDOG]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

Britain....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

Canada.....

Gun violence isn't just a U.S. problem—and Canada isn't immune - Macleans.ca

In terms of absolute numbers, no other Canadian city comes close to the number of shootings and shooting victims, and shootings in Toronto increased 41 per cent between 2015 and 2016; this year’s numbers are on par with the previous year’s, too.

But when year-over-year changes in gun violence are taken into account, there are other Canadian cities whose problems are at least just as bad.

Local officials in Surrey, Edmonton, Calgary, Regina, Ottawa, and Halifax have all publicly lamented the rise of gun violence in their cities, and with the absence of provincial and federal support, they have found themselves scrambling to implement their own initiatives.

In Regina, there has been a 94-per-cent increase in violent offences involving guns over the five-year average, and a 163-per-cent increase in the number of victims of firearms offences between 2015 to 2016. This prompted the city to conduct a two-week gun amnesty program in February.

Confidence in the federal government’s ability to tackle gun violence in Surrey, B.C. is so low that many residents have contemplated severing ties with the RCMP and setting up their own municipal police force. Surrey Mayor Linda Hepner recently announced the city would be creating its own task force to address gang and gun violence.

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

How Japan stopped the yakuza from using guns.....

http://www.atimes.com/article/japans-gun-control-laws-strict-yakuza-turn-toy-pistols/



Ryo Fujiwara, long-time writer on yakuza affairs and author of the book, The Three Yamaguchi-Gumi, says that the punishment for using a gun in a gang war or in a crime is now so heavy that most yakuza avoid their use at all – unless it is for an assassination.

“In a hit, whoever fires the gun, or is made to take responsibility for firing the gun, has to pretty much be willing to go to jail for the rest of their life. That’s a big decision. The repercussions are big, too. No one wants to claim responsibility for such acts – the gang office might actually get shut-down.”

The gang typically also has to support the family of the hit-man while he is in prison, which is also a financial burden for the organization.

Japan’s Firearms and Swords Control Laws make it a crime to illegally possess a gun, with a punishment of jail time of up to 10 years.

Illegal possession more than one gun, the penalty goes up to 15 years in prison. If you own a gun and matching ammunition, that’s another charge and a heavier penalty. The most severe penalty is for the act of discharging a gun in a train, on a bus, or most public spaces, which can result in a life sentence.

 

[2aguy]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

And how Japan keeps all of their crime rates low...

Japan: Gun Control and People Control

Japan's low crime rate has almost nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with people control. Americans, used to their own traditions of freedom, would not accept Japan's system of people controls and gun controls.



Robbery in Japan is about as rare as murder. Japan's annual robbery rate is 1.8 per 100,000 inhabitants; America's is 205.4. Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't. A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

The police box system contrasts sharply with the practice in America. Here, most departments adopt a policy of "stranger policing." To prevent corruption, police are frequently rotated from one neighborhood to another. But as federal judge Charles Silberman writes, "the cure is worse than the disease, for officers develop no sense of identification with their beats, hence no emotional stake in improving the quality of life there."

Thus, the U.S. citizenry does not develop a supportive relationship with the police. One poll showed that 60% of police officers believe "it is difficult to persuade people to give patrolmen the information they need."

The Japanese police do not spend all their time in the koban boxes. As the Japanese government puts it: "Home visit is one of the most important duties of officers assigned to police boxes." Making annual visits to each home in their beat, officers keep track of who lives where, and which family member to contact in case of emergency. The police also check on all gun licensees, to make sure no gun has been stolen or misused, that the gun is securely stored, and that the licensees are emotionally stable.

Gun banners might rejoice at a society where the police keep such a sharp eye on citizens' guns. But the price is that the police keep an eye on everything.

Policemen are apt to tell people reading sexually-oriented magazines to read something more worthwhile. Japan's major official year-end police report includes statistics like "Background and Motives for Girls' Sexual Misconduct." In 1985, the police determined that 37.4% of the girls had been seduced, and the rest had had sex "voluntarily." For the volunteers, 19.6% acted "out of curiosity", while for 18.1%, the motive was "liked particular boy." The year-end police report also includes sections on labor demands, and on anti-nuclear or anti-military demonstrations.

 

[BULLDOG]

Their homicide rate is a fraction of ours and nobody can remember if they have had a school shooting. Yeah, gun control is working. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gun control isn't working there....people control works there, through a rigid conformity, and police powers that would make any left winger proud....they can search anyone, for any reason, any where, and if they arrest you, you will be convicted at a 98% rate....that keeps people in line.....

And it didn't save that cops life....or stop that 19 year old with the gun from going into a school.

OK. You've tried to show gun regulations don't work in Japan, England, and Canada, and you failed miserably each time. Where we gonna go next?

You just post that like it is true....

I showed that gun crime is going up in Britain and Canada....and that the one thing that keeps criminals from using guns in Japan is long prison sentences....and the democrats here won't do that one thing to lower criminal gun crime...they let violent gun felons out of jail over and over again.....knowing they will just go out and murder people...and then they pass laws against normal gun owners....

and then you post that crap.....you really are stupid....

If you say so.

Britain....

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

We've all seen your cut and paste skills. 100% increase wouldn't have any real meaning when comparing their handfull of gun crimes to our many thousands.