Gulf War I vets: Gulf War Syndrome

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    Study: Sarin at root of Gulf War syndrome

    By Kelly Kennedy - Staff writer
    Posted : Tuesday May 29, 2007 6:22:58 EDT

    As benefits administrators, officials and politicians argue the worthiness of studies on Gulf War syndrome, researchers say they have no doubts that they’ve found the root of the problem.

    Sarin gas.

    And they have advice for as many as 300,000 troops exposed to small doses of sarin in 1991: Don’t use bug spray, don’t smoke and don’t drink alcohol.

    “Don’t do anything that would aggravate a normal, healthy body,” said Mohamed Abou-Donia, a neurobiology scientist at Duke University who conducted two studies for the Army.

    Research released in early May showed that 13 soldiers exposed to small amounts of sarin gas in the 1991 Gulf War had 5 percent less white brain matter — connective tissue — than soldiers who had not been exposed. A complementary report showed that 140 soldiers who were exposed had the fine motor skills of someone 20 years older — what researchers called a “direct correlation” to exposure.

    The data was the work of Roberta White, chairwoman of the Department of Environmental Health at Boston University School of Public Health.
    Full article here: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/05/military_sarin_gulfwar_070525w/
     
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    I'm wondering if there were two culprits here, Sarin gas and exposure to depleted uranium.
     
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    So let me get this straight ... Saddam had sarin gas and used it? Who'd have EVER thought THAT.:badgrin:
     
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    Actually, I do believe that the sarin was released when the US blew the big ammo dump; I have yet to hear anything that sarin was evident prior to that.
     
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    You are correct CSM. The article states:

     
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    Thanks for the clarification. Either way, I can now justify to my significant other my poor social behavior as being the result of brain damage!:D
     
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    I suspect that aint it...I know I'm anti social simply because (to quote a nautical figure) "I ams what I ams".

    I have to wonder though, how many other munitions were hidden in other dumps besides the one they blew up. Also, who the heck in their right mind would blow an ammo dump if they KNEW chemical munitions were stored there. I have heard that Saddam did not mark his chemical munitions appropriately (in accordance with international standards). I do not have any evidence either way but it would explain why the US military blew those munitions in place instead of treating them as chemical munitions.
     
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    After a wee bit of digging around:

    "As reported by UNSCOM inspectors, the Iraqi chemical weapons inadvertently demolished by US troops at Khamisiyah had no CW-specific marking or colored bands. Furthermore, Iraqi munitions at Khamisiyah that did bear colored markings--as seen on US military photography--can be readily identified as non-CW munitions."

    http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/cia_wp/

    A truly interesting report if anyone really cares.
     
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    I'm a little upset that the Pentagon would deny that they blew up the sarin gas site for 6 years. The military's initial approach to Gulf War Syndrome was that it was all psychological. Had the Pentagon just acknowledged that they blew up a plant containing sarin gas and that troops might have been exposed, they could have taken the appropriate steps for treatment in VA hospitals and given the appropriate medical ratings. After thinking about it for a day, I think that there really is no Gulf War Syndrome. What you really have is exposure to sarin gas, exposure to depleted uranium, and post traumatic stress disorder. All of the symptoms overlap. The doctors probably weren't familiar with diagnosing sarin gas or DU and probably were told that the Soldiers weren't exposed to it. DU studies back then were relatively new and the military had recently just switched over to depleted uranium from tungsten. So months later, you have Soldiers going to aid stations and hospitals reporting a wide range of symptoms and the doctors are baffled and call it a mystery illness.
     
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    I tend to agree except for one point. It is obvious to me that they did not know there was sarin in the ammo dump when they blew it. As I said, the Iraqiis did not mark their munitions as containing chemical weapons. Having said all that, you would think that the symptoms associated with exposure to chemical agents (especially in Iraq) would have been one of the things the medical branch would have looked at more seriously.
     

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