CDZ Grounds for Impeachment and Conviction

A naive, and incorrect, opinion ----- impeachment and conviction is steeped in English law, and is very specifically defined.

"The last section of Article II, Section 4, deals specifically with the grounds for impeachment: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

In fact, the term "high crimes and misdemeanors" is a commonly recognized description of a specific set of criminal activities. The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct peculiar to officials, such as perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, and refusal to obey a lawful order.

The concept that the president could be impeached and convicted for a traffic ticket, or actions prior to his term, or any of the other nonsense being perpetuated by the media - and every self-ordained legal expert - is, simply, nonsense.

What SHOULD scare you is the ignorance of many of the members of congress who purvey this ignorance and disinformation as if it is true. (Yeah, I'm looking at you, Al Green ... you, too, Henny Stoyer ... and, of course, at you -though, it hurts my eyes - Maxine Waters)
Ultimately congress gets to decide what the high crimes and misdemeanors are for impeachment and conviction. If the house and the senate has the votes, they can impeach and convict a president for anything they want to define as high crimes and misdemeanors.
... and it will last about 30 seconds, until the Supreme Court overturns it .....

EVEN the Democrats are not stupid enough to try it ... well, except Maxine and Pochantas.

You are absolutely right- the GOP won't impeach Trump even if he is found standing over a dead body.

But the Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to overturn any impeachment or conviction
Actually, that's not true .... a simple wrongful termination lawsuit will rectify the situation. Of course, the suit will be filed in DC federal court, but will be expedited to the SCOTUS.

Simply, there are no legitimate grounds for impeachment/conviction. All this talk is wasted time.

Actually that is true. The Constitution is very clear about it- but hey- you can believe whatever you want to.

I haven't seen any legitimate ground for impeachment yet- no high crimes or misdeamenors not yet. That doesn't mean that they don't exist- for that they do.

But it does mean it is premature to be calling for Trump's impeachment.
Actually not.

There are ample grounds for impeachment.

Again, a president can be impeached absent alleged criminal wrongdoing; he can be impeached and removed from office because he is incompetent, because of misconduct, or because he violated his oath of office – all misdemeanors in accordance with Article II, Section 4.

In Trump’s case he could be impeached for compromising the integrity of the presidency as a result of his numerous violations of the Emoluments Clause.

Trump could be impeached because of his unwarranted attacks on the judiciary.

Trump could be impeached for dereliction of his constitutional responsibility by failing to timely appoint officers of the Nation’s Federal agencies.

Trump could be impeached for violating his oath of office by providing intelligence to an adversary nation.

Trump can be impeached because of the reckless, irresponsible tweeting, because of his incessant lying, and because of his continued efforts to propagate ridiculous conspiracy theories proven time and again to be completely false and without merit.

Take your pick – all of the above or just one would be sufficient.
 
Trump could be impeach for abuse of power for having two scoupes of ice cream when everyone else only could have one.
 
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Ultimately congress gets to decide what the high crimes and misdemeanors are for impeachment and conviction. If the house and the senate has the votes, they can impeach and convict a president for anything they want to define as high crimes and misdemeanors.
... and it will last about 30 seconds, until the Supreme Court overturns it .....

EVEN the Democrats are not stupid enough to try it ... well, except Maxine and Pochantas.

You are absolutely right- the GOP won't impeach Trump even if he is found standing over a dead body.

But the Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to overturn any impeachment or conviction
Actually, that's not true .... a simple wrongful termination lawsuit will rectify the situation. Of course, the suit will be filed in DC federal court, but will be expedited to the SCOTUS.

Simply, there are no legitimate grounds for impeachment/conviction. All this talk is wasted time.

Actually that is true. The Constitution is very clear about it- but hey- you can believe whatever you want to.

I haven't seen any legitimate ground for impeachment yet- no high crimes or misdeamenors not yet. That doesn't mean that they don't exist- for that they do.

But it does mean it is premature to be calling for Trump's impeachment.
Actually not.

There are ample grounds for impeachment.

Again, a president can be impeached absent alleged criminal wrongdoing; he can be impeached and removed from office because he is incompetent, because of misconduct, or because he violated his oath of office – all misdemeanors in accordance with Article II, Section 4.

In Trump’s case he could be impeached for compromising the integrity of the presidency as a result of his numerous violations of the Emoluments Clause.

Trump could be impeached because of his unwarranted attacks on the judiciary.

Trump could be impeached for dereliction of his constitutional responsibility by failing to timely appoint officers of the Nation’s Federal agencies.

Trump could be impeached for violating his oath of office by providing intelligence to an adversary nation.

Trump can be impeached because of the reckless, irresponsible tweeting, because of his incessant lying, and because of his continued efforts to propagate ridiculous conspiracy theories proven time and again to be completely false and without merit.

Take your pick – all of the above or just one would be sufficient.

Oh Trump could be impeached for having bad hair.

Certainly I would love to see Trump out of office. But at this moment we don't have any evidence of either high crimes or misdeamenors.
The House could impeach him for any reason that they want to- but the only 'legitimate reasons' are high crimes or misdeamors.
 

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