Grilled Elephant...

[NoEconomist]

Most of you are probably aware that the Tea Cups are turning up the heat on the Republican leadership.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Max Weber said that politics is the slow boring of hard woods but they seem to want to use a shot gun. How do you reason with the unreasonable? What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

Life doesn't work like that, politics certainty don't work like that. They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election but in the end humans are tribal beings and would prefer to walk the path of the reasonable peace.

James Madison once said "What we are attempting to create here is a harmonious system of mutual frustration" No on gets everything they want but they don't seem to want to hear that.

Its going to be a cold winter if they burn the house down to make a point.

 

[blastoff]

"They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election..."

Hmmm...interesting way to describe a total fucking ass kicking.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Thinkprogress is utopia for communists.

Thinkprogress is a propaganda mill.

 

[peach174]

Most Americans are sick and tired of one who is dissatisfied who can then rule over the majority,and the majority must stop their enjoyment for the one. It is not just the tea party who is sick and tired of this.
We shall see at polling time in 2012.

 

[peach174]

I think Grilled Donkey will be more like it.

 

[NoEconomist]

Thinkprogress is utopia for communists.

Thinkprogress is a propaganda mill.

Ok fine.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Happy?

 

[whitehall]

Most of you are probably aware that the Tea Cups are turning up the heat on the Republican leadership.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Max Weber said that politics is the slow boring of hard woods but they seem to want to use a shot gun. How do you reason with the unreasonable? What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

Life doesn't work like that, politics certainty don't work like that. They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election but in the end humans are tribal beings and would prefer to walk the path of the reasonable peace.

James Madison once said "What we are attempting to create here is a harmonious system of mutual frustration" No on gets everything they want but they don't seem to want to hear that.

Its going to be a cold winter if they burn the house down to make a point.

The Tea Party always has the heat on the republican leadership. Who puts pressure on the democrat party? Old murderers like Bill Ayers and communists like Van Jones?

 

[Robert]

Most of you are probably aware that the Tea Cups are turning up the heat on the Republican leadership.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Max Weber said that politics is the slow boring of hard woods but they seem to want to use a shot gun. How do you reason with the unreasonable? What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

Life doesn't work like that, politics certainty don't work like that. They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election but in the end humans are tribal beings and would prefer to walk the path of the reasonable peace.

James Madison once said "What we are attempting to create here is a harmonious system of mutual frustration" No on gets everything they want but they don't seem to want to hear that.

Its going to be a cold winter if they burn the house down to make a point.

For once someone is holding Politicians accountable for once a group of people have gotten together to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Nobody asks perfection but the absolute clusterfuck we have now has got to be reversed these Politicians answer to the American people we don't answer to the Politicians.

Ya I know everyone has an agenda there are no two people who can agree on anything but the answer isn't to do nothing because these fools in Government don't give a shit about how much damage they are doing to our nation.

 

[Anachronism]

I don't want my Elephant grilled. Personally, I'd just prefer to mount its head on the wall in my apartment right next to the Donkey and replace them both with something else.... namely a system that OUTLAWS political parties, PACs, etc... entirely.

 

[NoEconomist]

Most of you are probably aware that the Tea Cups are turning up the heat on the Republican leadership.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Max Weber said that politics is the slow boring of hard woods but they seem to want to use a shot gun. How do you reason with the unreasonable? What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

Life doesn't work like that, politics certainty don't work like that. They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election but in the end humans are tribal beings and would prefer to walk the path of the reasonable peace.

James Madison once said "What we are attempting to create here is a harmonious system of mutual frustration" No on gets everything they want but they don't seem to want to hear that.

Its going to be a cold winter if they burn the house down to make a point.

For once someone is holding Politicians accountable for once a group of people have gotten together to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Nobody asks perfection but the absolute clusterfuck we have now has got to be reversed these Politicians answer to the American people we don't answer to the Politicians.

Ya I know everyone has an agenda there are no two people who can agree on anything but the answer isn't to do nothing because these fools in Government don't give a shit about how much damage they are doing to our nation.

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we're fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

 

[Anachronism]

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we are fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

No, it is NOT the job of my elected representatives to "GET ALONG". That is the LAST thing I would want them doing, if I felt any of them represented ME at all. Compromise is for those people who don't actually BELIEVE IN or STAND FOR anything. Leadership is doing what's RIGHT instead of what's EASY. All too often people in this country forget that. Especially those in elected office.

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

Digging the heels in IS the Real Work. Being willing to do what's Right instead of what is Easy or Going Along to Get Along is the Real Work. If somebody tells me they won't FIGHT for something, I don't believe they actually care about it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

You mean like Mr/Mrs "We won the election" Obama/Pelosi?

 

[NoEconomist]

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we are fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

No, it is NOT the job of my elected representatives to "GET ALONG". That is the LAST thing I would want them doing, if I felt any of them represented ME at all. Compromise is for those people who don't actually BELIEVE IN or STAND FOR anything. Leadership is doing what's RIGHT instead of what's EASY. All too often people in this country forget that. Especially those in elected office.

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

Digging the heels in IS the Real Work. Being willing to do what's Right instead of what is Easy or Going Along to Get Along is the Real Work. If somebody tells me they won't FIGHT for something, I don't believe they actually care about it.

What about those that fundamentally disagree with what you stand for? Not because you're a bad person but just because they have a different point of view. How are the people that represent the both of you to govern if you don't want them to compromise?

 

[Robert]

Most of you are probably aware that the Tea Cups are turning up the heat on the Republican leadership.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Max Weber said that politics is the slow boring of hard woods but they seem to want to use a shot gun. How do you reason with the unreasonable? What do you say to someone who's position seems to be limited to "I'm right, you're wrong. FUCK YOU!!!"

Life doesn't work like that, politics certainty don't work like that. They may have had some targeted, limited, novelty success in the last mid-term election but in the end humans are tribal beings and would prefer to walk the path of the reasonable peace.

James Madison once said "What we are attempting to create here is a harmonious system of mutual frustration" No on gets everything they want but they don't seem to want to hear that.

Its going to be a cold winter if they burn the house down to make a point.

For once someone is holding Politicians accountable for once a group of people have gotten together to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Nobody asks perfection but the absolute clusterfuck we have now has got to be reversed these Politicians answer to the American people we don't answer to the Politicians.

Ya I know everyone has an agenda there are no two people who can agree on anything but the answer isn't to do nothing because these fools in Government don't give a shit about how much damage they are doing to our nation.

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we're fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

Honestly I'm wondering how much longer its going to be before we reach the point of no return this crap is so utterly out of control its scary to think how fast and and far we've fallen since the sixty's.

Our Nation not the world our Nation is teetering on the brink we as a people are so divided its not going to take much of a spark to set it alight and to my utter amazement it is the same bastards we've put into office that are driving the division.

I really don't have a problem with the Tea Party holding these idiot's to task I just wish the other side would pull it's collective head out of its ass and do the same thing.

The issue's are pretty simple we cannot continue the trend that we are on IMO should we continue this our nation will cease to exist, when it does everything we take for granted today will be gone I don't think that's the answer we as a people are looking for but it may be what it takes.

 

[NoEconomist]

For once someone is holding Politicians accountable for once a group of people have gotten together to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Nobody asks perfection but the absolute clusterfuck we have now has got to be reversed these Politicians answer to the American people we don't answer to the Politicians.

Ya I know everyone has an agenda there are no two people who can agree on anything but the answer isn't to do nothing because these fools in Government don't give a shit about how much damage they are doing to our nation.

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we're fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

Honestly I'm wondering how much longer its going to be before we reach the point of no return this crap is so utterly out of control its scary to think how fast and and far we've fallen since the sixty's.

Our Nation not the world our Nation is teetering on the brink we as a people are so divided its not going to take much of a spark to set it alight and to my utter amazement it is the same bastards we've put into office that are driving the division.

I really don't have a problem with the Tea Party holding these idiot's to task I just wish the other side would pull it's collective head out of its ass and do the same thing.

The issue's are pretty simple we cannot continue the trend that we are on IMO should we continue this our nation will cease to exist, when it does everything we take for granted today will be gone I don't think that's the answer we as a people are looking for but it may be what it takes.

Oh I have been advocating a 3rd Constitutional congress for years. Perhaps it is time to click the refresh button on ye Old Parchment (Miller) but the same old asshats would be the ones writing it and I really don't want modern lawyers tinkering with the source code. Can you imagine how fucking thick it would be?

So abstain a revolution we are stuck with one another in this system

 

[peach174]

If Dems won't stop their complete Government is the only one who can do things attitude, they won't be a party for very much longer. We will start seeing Independents taking over.

 

[NoEconomist]

If Dems won't stop their complete Government is the only one who can do things attitude, they won't be a party for very much longer. We will start seeing Independents taking over.

Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green, Tea....These are only labels, they're practically meaningless. Just ways of alining one set of interests against another. A team to cheer for.

"Liberals" don't want complete government. We just believe that this country belongs to all of us and we have a responsibility to help those that can't help themselves. Do some take advantage of that help? Sure. Just like there are "Conservatives" that take advantage of a lack of accountability. This is the knot that we all work at. But you can't solve it with a sword.

 

[whitehall]

Of course its fucked up, but its fucked up because we are fucked up. Look at this board, most of us agree on nothing. That's fine because its not our job to get along. But they have to in some fashion or at best nothing gets done, at worst we start shooting at one another and I don't want to shoot you Robert, you seem like a really Nice Guy

No, it is NOT the job of my elected representatives to "GET ALONG". That is the LAST thing I would want them doing, if I felt any of them represented ME at all. Compromise is for those people who don't actually BELIEVE IN or STAND FOR anything. Leadership is doing what's RIGHT instead of what's EASY. All too often people in this country forget that. Especially those in elected office.

Digging your heels in like the Tea Party and then threatening those that wish to do real work is counterproductive.

Digging the heels in IS the Real Work. Being willing to do what's Right instead of what is Easy or Going Along to Get Along is the Real Work. If somebody tells me they won't FIGHT for something, I don't believe they actually care about it.

What about those that fundamentally disagree with what you stand for? Not because you're a bad person but just because they have a different point of view. How are the people that represent the both of you to govern if you don't want them to compromise?

What do you want? Conservative Americans get together and put pressure on the political party that is closest to representing their views. Why do lefties hate the Tea Party for influencing the republican party? The dirty little secret is that the socialist and communist factions that influence the democrat party prefer to take a low profile or remain anonymous. Liberal democrats are even afraid to use the "L" word in public. That's how degenerate the left wing has become.

 

[Anachronism]

What about those that fundamentally disagree with what you stand for? Not because you're a bad person but just because they have a different point of view. How are the people that represent the both of you to govern if you don't want them to compromise?

Those who fundamentally disagree with what I stand for are my enemies, and I will treat them as such. They will find only the mercy of a quick stroke of my sword, whether that weapon by physical or philosophical. There is no middle ground. Me or Them. Two men enter, one man leaves.

I am an Authoritarian. I hold no great interest in Democracy or Republicanism. Both allow the incompetent, the stupid, and the dull-witted way too much influence in the system. In this country the incompetent and the uneducated elect the circus clown who most willingly plies them with sweet words to go and entertain them further in the center ring of the circus (Washington) or one of the side rings (The State and Local Governments) while the clown steals them blind at every turn.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Thinkprogress is utopia for communists.

Thinkprogress is a propaganda mill.

Ok fine.

Special report: Stuck between the Tea Party and a hard place | Reuters

Happy?

No, I'm not happy with the media in general - including Fox.

Furthermore, I don't appreciate op-ed pieces either...

There is a difference between fact and opinion or fact and pseudo-fact.

Opinion is not truth - its opinion.