Great Speech.

[Old Rocks]

So what is spending 447 billion of money we don't have going to accomplish that spending 873 billion of money we don't have didn't already?

This meme is becoming tiresome.

Somehow we have money to prosecute a war in Afghanistan, maintain some 700 bases globally, provide a military for Israel, Jordan, Egypt and many other countries while spending more then the rest of the world combine to keep ourselves armed to the teeth against some vague threat..but we can not repair our infrastructure or put people to work.

yeah..we got it.

If you want to have the discussion about whether we should reduce our presense overseas or not get involved in Israel's problems, that's fine. Neither party is willing to have that discussion.

Fact is, we spend nearly a trillion on education on the Federal, State and Local level- far more than we do on the miltiary, and that doesn't include private expendatures.

We spend 274 billion a year on transportation projects at the state and local level alone. 320 billion on police and fire protection.

Government Spending in United States: Federal State Local 2011 - Charts Tables History

Government spending makes up about 6 Trillion in a 14 trillion dollar economy... So please do not get here and try to tell me that.

1) The GOvernment isn't spending enough money on X

or

2) That spending another 447 billion on top of that is going to improve much of anything.

Perhaps you need to compare what other nations spend on education as a percentage of their GNP. We are spending far too little. South Korea graduates more engineers than we do. China graduates several times as many.

Japan, China, and Europe have high speed rail, and a rail passenger system that works. We have an Interstate System of highways that is being allowed to crumble before our eyes.

Why do we need 700 bases overseas? What threat is there that warrants that kind of expenditure?

What you 'Conservatives' are preaching is eating the seed corn. Not very damned bright of you.

 

[Immanuel]

I thought it would be okay but this was better. President Obama really hit the mark with this one.

Surprisingly enough Canter was on a few shows and it looks like hes on board with alot of the proposals.

So what is spending 447 billion of money we don't have going to accomplish that spending 873 billion of money we don't have didn't already?

Big Christmas Bonus' for Barry's Buddies.

Immie

 

[yidnar]

Obama did well however, you have to admit we need improvement soon. Obama cant just keep sounding the part and not produce.

its time for the gloves to come off, right now, last night gave me the feeling like im excited again. been a while since I can say that.

F Cantor, hes a douche. Im a bit more interested in what Bohner and McConnell have to say.

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

and the fact that you agree with him tells us what kind of dirty dishonest person you are!! the people on the right already knew what the no good bastard was going to do ,and the Vice Punk is already on the attack accusing republicans of obstruction !!...WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR OBAMA ?? ABSOLUTE POWER TO DESTROY THE PRIVATE SECTOR??

 

[Sallow]

I thought it would be okay but this was better. President Obama really hit the mark with this one.

Surprisingly enough Canter was on a few shows and it looks like hes on board with alot of the proposals.

So what is spending 447 billion of money we don't have going to accomplish that spending 873 billion of money we don't have didn't already?

Big Christmas Bonus' for Barry's Buddies.

Immie

Who is Barry?

Is this Barry?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqXtkDT9uM]Barry Manilow - Copacabana - YouTube[/ame]

 

[California Girl]

Obama did well however, you have to admit we need improvement soon. Obama cant just keep sounding the part and not produce.

its time for the gloves to come off, right now, last night gave me the feeling like im excited again. been a while since I can say that.

F Cantor, hes a douche. Im a bit more interested in what Bohner and McConnell have to say.

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

 

[Sallow]

Obama did well however, you have to admit we need improvement soon. Obama cant just keep sounding the part and not produce.

its time for the gloves to come off, right now, last night gave me the feeling like im excited again. been a while since I can say that.

F Cantor, hes a douche. Im a bit more interested in what Bohner and McConnell have to say.

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

and the fact that you agree with him tells us what kind of dirty dishonest person you are!! the people on the right already knew what the no good bastard was going to do ,and the Vice Punk is already on the attack accusing republicans of obstruction !!...WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR OBAMA ?? ABSOLUTE POWER TO DESTROY THE PRIVATE SECTOR??

You are amusing.

 

[Sallow]

Obama did well however, you have to admit we need improvement soon. Obama cant just keep sounding the part and not produce.

its time for the gloves to come off, right now, last night gave me the feeling like im excited again. been a while since I can say that.

F Cantor, hes a douche. Im a bit more interested in what Bohner and McConnell have to say.

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

NaziGirl is awake?

Kewl.

 

[Immanuel]

So what is spending 447 billion of money we don't have going to accomplish that spending 873 billion of money we don't have didn't already?

Big Christmas Bonus' for Barry's Buddies.

Immie

Who is Barry?

Is this Barry?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqXtkDT9uM]Barry Manilow - Copacabana - YouTube[/ame]

We can definitely tell what the Democratic Manta is going to be for the next 14 months. You are going to borrow a phrase from Jesse Jackson's campaign... "Keep Hope Alive".

Here's a clue guys, hope died in November of 2008. It has been long dead and buried.

Immie

 

[Mad Scientist]

The President was real good at speachifying. Too bad he didn't recommend anything that he hadn't already done or that had already failed.

But he said it with enthusiasm and that alone will fool a lot of people out there.

 

[Claudette]

I listened to his speech and heard the same old same old. Lets fix the infrastructure. More shovel ready jobs that ain't shovel ready??

He does have spending cuts in there but he also has more spending. We are broke folks. Where is this money going to come from??

His lets spend now and take 10 yrs to pay for it?? There will be a new Congress and they do not have to keep the promises of of a previous Congress. Been there. Done that.

He hit the class warfare bs again. The rich need to pay more. Nothing about the 47% who pay no Fed taxes at all.

He also his on the fact that jobs are going overseas. All the while Jeff Immelt sits next to his wife during the speech. The same Immelt who runs GE. GE that has billions of untaxed dollars in offshore accounts. The same GE that is shipping jobs to China. Immelt, the Jobs Tzar. What a fucking joke.

Oh yeah. He gave a good speech. Fine rhetoric but thats about it.

 

[WillowTree]

I thought it would be okay but this was better. President Obama really hit the mark with this one.

Surprisingly enough Canter was on a few shows and it looks like hes on board with alot of the proposals.

But, it's an all or nothing deal.

 

[driveby]

I have seen a few Witty conservatives on here Sallow. Actually quite a few of them. which is nice to see, IMO.


Obama is a politician, of course he will set himself up to look good! Im not wanting to see that, I want to see some positive improvement for the middle class.

and sad to say it, once again, the main problem with this sluggish economy, the housing market. Is still not on the table. Maybe the GOP can take the lead here and help Obama, I doubt it.

He's between a rock and a hard place. He was handed a pile of horse shit and a thimble to use to clean it up while the greek chorus chants "YOU'RE FAILING!".

THIS is tiresome......

 

[California Girl]

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

NaziGirl is awake?

Kewl.

And therein lies my point with you. You are more interested in petty point scoring than honesty. Credibility, once lost, is hard to retrieve. Mocking 6 million dead for your silly games.... shame on you.

 

[WillowTree]

Pass the bill we have to pass the bill .... 17 times

code word for I watch FOX news, an entertainment channel. saw this coming a mile away, next!

did he or did he KNot say it 17 times?

 

[Sallow]

The President was real good at speachifying. Too bad he didn't recommend anything that he hadn't already done or that had already failed.

But he said it with enthusiasm and that alone will fool a lot of people out there.

There's nothing to "fool".

He set up the distinction for the 2012 election.

On one side you have a party committed to shoveling massive amounts tax money into the pockets of the wealthy while demanding austerity from everyone else.

On the other side you have a party which shovels some tax money into the pockets of the wealthy but demands a little parity with everyone else.

It ain't pretty..but there it is.

 

[Jarhead]

He just doesnt get it. Small and medium sized businesses will not expand until they know 2 things....what thier annual costs for healthcare will be per employee and there is a positive projection for 2 quarters in advance. Unfortunately, neither of those will be known until well into 2012.

That being said, his idea of tax credits for the hiring of an individual who has been on unemployment for 6 months or longer will be gamed and result in no net gained jobs. Companies will simply review their roster of employees, lay off those that are easily replaceable....wait a few weeks if not months and then hire someone who has been on unemployment for 6 months or longer....and get the tax credit.

This plan, although has some merit, will not work...and I am surprirsed that his economic team has not already informed him of that.

 

[California Girl]

I have seen a few Witty conservatives on here Sallow. Actually quite a few of them. which is nice to see, IMO.


Obama is a politician, of course he will set himself up to look good! Im not wanting to see that, I want to see some positive improvement for the middle class.

and sad to say it, once again, the main problem with this sluggish economy, the housing market. Is still not on the table. Maybe the GOP can take the lead here and help Obama, I doubt it.

He's between a rock and a hard place. He was handed a pile of horse shit and a thimble to use to clean it up while the greek chorus chants "YOU'RE FAILING!".

THIS is tiresome......

It is a fairly typical response from an Obamatron. They don't give a flying fuck about the country.... only their party.... and, more importantly, their Messiah.

How many times do people fall for the pretty words? Fucking idiots.

 

[Sallow]

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

NaziGirl is awake?

Kewl.

And therein lies my point with you. You are more interested in petty point scoring than honesty. Credibility, once lost, is hard to retrieve. Mocking 6 million dead for your silly games.... shame on you.

Don't know what you are talking about my little NaziGirl.

Tea and biscuits cold this morn?

 

[driveby]

This was the last olive branch.

It was well played. This is a marathon effort not a sprint. He's set himself up to look good regardless of what congress does.

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

NaziGirl is awake?

Kewl.

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.


You've learned Saul's rules well ....

 

[RDD_1210]

That's what's important.... 'looking good'. To hell with the country, as long as Obama looks good.

You really are a pathetic hack, swallow.

NaziGirl is awake?

Kewl.

And therein lies my point with you. You are more interested in petty point scoring than honesty. Credibility, once lost, is hard to retrieve. Mocking 6 million dead for your silly games.... shame on you.

Funny, considering you once had a Nazi avatar..."as a joke".

Could you be any more of a hypocrite? EVERYTHING you say is completely opposite of what you actually say and do yourself. Simply amazing.