Great quote on "christian nation"

[blu]

 

[eflatminor]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

 

[Old Rocks]

So the GOP's Vice pick is not a fan of Rand's philosophy?

 

[blu]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

 

[blu]

So the GOP's Vice pick is not a fan of Rand's philosophy?

he flipped flop on it just like his buddy mitt

 

[blu]

if you own a home, car, and any "extras" that aren't require to live then you simply aren't following jesus's teachings. its as simple as that and you would fit his definition of greed and sin perfectly.

 

[Ariux]

Christians are the most charitable people in America.

 

[tinydancer]

Something is aobviously not working. Decades of spending and the rates are still the same.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged
June 25, 2012
By Lonely Conservative

For decades liberal politicians have been spending billions trillions of dollars fighting the “War on Poverty,” yet the poverty rate remains unchanged. But of course, they tell us that they just haven’t spent enough money.

The government is not making much headway reducing poverty despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars, according to a study by the libertarian Cato Institute.

Despite an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending the national poverty rate has not declined, it finds.

“ince President Obama took office, federal welfare spending has increased by 41 percent, more than $193 billion per year.” the study says.

Federal welfare spending this year now totals $668 billion, spread out over 126 programs, while the poverty rate that remains stubbornly high at nearly 15 percent – roughly where it was in 1965, when President Johnson declared a federal War on Poverty.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged | The Lonely Conservative

 

[bobcollum]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

American exceptionalism doesn't exist when we're talking about the poor.

Then it's okay to consider ourselves lucky to not be in a third-world country.

 

[Erand7899]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

Since it is obvious that you don't understand Jesus' teachings, you should try to restrain yourself from pontificating about what others should believe, or how they should respond to those beliefs.

 

[eflatminor]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

Jesus taught to take from the rich and redistribute to the poor? Really? Please point that out for us...or are you confusing Christianity with some twisted version of Robin Hood?

 

[eflatminor]

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged

Results do not matter to the collectivist mind. It's what in your HEART that matters...unintended consequences be damned.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yeshua also stated in the Bible that the poor will always be with us.

 

[blu]

Something is aobviously not working. Decades of spending and the rates are still the same.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged
June 25, 2012
By Lonely Conservative

For decades liberal politicians have been spending billions trillions of dollars fighting the “War on Poverty,” yet the poverty rate remains unchanged. But of course, they tell us that they just haven’t spent enough money.

The government is not making much headway reducing poverty despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars, according to a study by the libertarian Cato Institute.

Despite an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending the national poverty rate has not declined, it finds.

“ince President Obama took office, federal welfare spending has increased by 41 percent, more than $193 billion per year.” the study says.

Federal welfare spending this year now totals $668 billion, spread out over 126 programs, while the poverty rate that remains stubbornly high at nearly 15 percent – roughly where it was in 1965, when President Johnson declared a federal War on Poverty.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged | The Lonely Conservative

what does this have to do with jesus's teachings?

 

[blu]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

Since it is obvious that you don't understand Jesus' teachings, you should try to restrain yourself from pontificating about what others should believe, or how they should respond to those beliefs.

I Would love for you to prove me wrong

 

[blu]

Far from great. Complete and utter bullshit...sure.

First, this nation does help the poor. We're incredibly generous and charitable. As a result the poorest Americans are comparatively rich.

Whatever Jesus said about helping the needy, he was speaking of charity, not theft and redistribution. It's one thing to give to the poor of your own accord. That's charity. It's quite another to take from some and give to others. That's theft...I'm pretty sure the rabbi Jesus espoused "thou shall not steal".

Is there anything you collectivists won't twist into your some version of socialism? Just pathetic.

Christians always come up with the quibbles about redistribution etc when asked why they don't follow Jesus' teachings.

Jesus taught to take from the rich and redistribute to the poor? Really? Please point that out for us...or are you confusing Christianity with some twisted version of Robin Hood?

Where did my post imply any of that? This is on an individual level... people who are rich are living the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Even middle class/upper middle class are not following his teachings by having possessions that are unnecessary and not using excess wealth to help the poor.

 

[eflatminor]

Something is aobviously not working. Decades of spending and the rates are still the same.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged
June 25, 2012
By Lonely Conservative

For decades liberal politicians have been spending billions trillions of dollars fighting the “War on Poverty,” yet the poverty rate remains unchanged. But of course, they tell us that they just haven’t spent enough money.

The government is not making much headway reducing poverty despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars, according to a study by the libertarian Cato Institute.

Despite an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending the national poverty rate has not declined, it finds.

“ince President Obama took office, federal welfare spending has increased by 41 percent, more than $193 billion per year.” the study says.

Federal welfare spending this year now totals $668 billion, spread out over 126 programs, while the poverty rate that remains stubbornly high at nearly 15 percent – roughly where it was in 1965, when President Johnson declared a federal War on Poverty.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged | The Lonely Conservative

what does this have to do with jesus's teachings?

What does your OP have to do with his teachings? Answer: Not a damn thing.

TD points out the utter failure of your attempts at forced charity through theft. But, hey, maybe if we stole just a few more billion, we'd win this war on poverty, eh?

 

[blu]

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged

Results do not matter to the collectivist mind. It's what in your HEART that matters...unintended consequences be damned.

This has nothing to do with collectivists and other deflections. This is on a personal level

 

[blu]

Yeshua also stated in the Bible that the poor will always be with us.

and?

 

[blu]

Something is aobviously not working. Decades of spending and the rates are still the same.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged
June 25, 2012
By Lonely Conservative

For decades liberal politicians have been spending billions trillions of dollars fighting the “War on Poverty,” yet the poverty rate remains unchanged. But of course, they tell us that they just haven’t spent enough money.

The government is not making much headway reducing poverty despite spending hundreds of billions of dollars, according to a study by the libertarian Cato Institute.

Despite an unprecedented increase in federal anti-poverty spending the national poverty rate has not declined, it finds.

“ince President Obama took office, federal welfare spending has increased by 41 percent, more than $193 billion per year.” the study says.

Federal welfare spending this year now totals $668 billion, spread out over 126 programs, while the poverty rate that remains stubbornly high at nearly 15 percent – roughly where it was in 1965, when President Johnson declared a federal War on Poverty.

After Billions of Dollars Spent on War on Poverty, Poverty Rate Remains Unchanged | The Lonely Conservative

what does this have to do with jesus's teachings?

What does your OP have to do with his teachings? Answer: Not a damn thing.

TD points out the utter failure of your attempts at forced charity through theft. But, hey, maybe if we stole just a few more billion, we'd win this war on poverty, eh?

no you are just an idiot. This is on an individual level, nothing to do with government