Great News! Just Wait Until You are Sick to Buy Health Insurance!!!

[ScreamingEagle]

They can't be denied healthcare....until the government starts rationing....and you get to sit there sick and waiting...

You wanted government health care.

Instead, you got long lines, and death.

Barack Obama won’t care how long you stand in line.

Nancy Pelosi won’t care how long you stand in line.

Harry Reid won’t care how long you stand in line.

Why should they? They won’t have to stand in line. They don’t have to use the second class health care system they created for you. They don’t have to wait in lines.

You voted for Hope and Change, but what you got instead was socialism, economic slavery, and the end of the American Dream.

In 2007, the Commonwealth Fund released a report that compared U.S. health care against several other countries based on a variety of benchmarks. The data were principally derived from statistically random surveys of adult residents and primary care physicians from 2004 to 2006, in the following countries: United States, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Germany, and the Netherlands. This is what the researchers found:

* Canada had the highest percentage of patients (36%) who had to wait six days or more for an appointment with a doctor, but the United States had the second highest percentage (23%) who reported that they had to wait at least this long. New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and the U.K. all had substantially smaller numbers of people reporting waits of 6 days or longer. Canada and the United States, in that order, also had the lowest percentage of persons who said they could get an appointment with a doctor the same or next day.

* The United States had the largest percentage of persons (61%) who said that getting care on nights, weekends, or holidays, without going to the emergency room, was “very” or “somewhat” difficult. In Canada, it was 54%, and in the U.K, 38%. Germany did the best, with only 22% saying that it was difficult to get after-hours care.

* The United States, though, scored well on physicians’ perceptions of how many patients experience long waits for diagnostic tests. 57% of physicians in the U.K, and 51% of Canadian physicians reported that their patients experienced long waits for diagnostic tests, compared to only 9% of U.S. physicians who reported the same.

* The U.K (60%) and Canada (57%) had the highest numbers of persons who had to wait four weeks or more to get to see a specialist physician. In the U.S., only 23% reported a wait of four weeks or more for specialty care.

* The U.S. also did very well on measures of wait times for non-emergency or elective surgery. Only 8% of surveyed patients in the United States reported a wait time of four months or more for elective surgery, compared to 33% in Canada and 41% in the U.K. Germany scored the best, with only 6% reporting a long wait for elective surgery.

The take-away message is that both the United States and Canada do pretty poorly, compared to most other industrialized countries, on how long patients have to wait to get a regular appointment with a primary care physician or after-hours care, but the U.S. does better than most on having shorter wait times for diagnostic procedures, elective surgery, and specialty care. Each of these countries, though, with the exception of the United States, has universal health insurance coverage, funded and regulated in large part by the government, so it doesn’t seem likely that government-subsidized health care, in itself, is the sole factor in determining how long patients are stuck in The Waiting Place. Other factors, like the numbers of primary care physicians and specialists in each country, may be more important.

Of course, we never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Wait Times For Medical Care: How The US Actually Measures Up - Better Health


and before you wast your time trying to find out what sort of system germany has............it's a hybrid system.

So? You think converting to socialized government medicine is going to IMPROVE those numbers....? You ever been to the post office or the DMV?

 

[Political Junky]

Gawd Republicans are dumb. If you have an allergy, and you get cancer, you could be dropped for having a "Pre existing condition". The allergy didn't stop you from being approved for health care, but it can stop you from be given needed surgery.

Do you understand that? You were able to get health care, even though you had a broke pinky finger when you were five. So you get diabetes, but you get dropped because your "pinky finger" was a "pre-existing condition". Get it?

YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A PRE EXISTING CONDITION IS. You are so stupid, you think it means you have cancer when you go to get health insurance. Of course they wouldn't give it to you, why, because you have fucking cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, Cons are indeed that dumb. That's why they buy the shit that their representatives throw at them.

 

[Oldandtired]

Gawd Republicans are dumb. If you have an allergy, and you get cancer, you could be dropped for having a "Pre existing condition". The allergy didn't stop you from being approved for health care, but it can stop you from be given needed surgery.

Do you understand that? You were able to get health care, even though you had a broke pinky finger when you were five. So you get diabetes, but you get dropped because your "pinky finger" was a "pre-existing condition". Get it?

YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A PRE EXISTING CONDITION IS. You are so stupid, you think it means you have cancer when you go to get health insurance. Of course they wouldn't give it to you, why, because you have fucking cancer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, Cons are indeed that dumb. That's why they buy the shit that their representatives throw at them.

Actually, liberals are the gullible ones that believe that stuff.

Yes, some administrative and clerical errors resulted in denials at first until the error was found.

But insurance companies do not deny you care for cancer if they find that you had an allergy and did not mention it.

That is striclty crap the far left is throwing out there and the moderate left is eating it up.

 

[Truthmatters]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

how is that when buying into an insurance policy will be reqiured of all people?

 

[Truthmatters]

Blue Cross praised employees who dropped sick policyholders, lawmaker says - Los Angeles Times

 

[California Girl]

They can't be denied healthcare....until the government starts rationing....and you get to sit there sick and waiting...

You wanted government health care.

Instead, you got long lines, and death.

Barack Obama won’t care how long you stand in line.

Nancy Pelosi won’t care how long you stand in line.

Harry Reid won’t care how long you stand in line.

Why should they? They won’t have to stand in line. They don’t have to use the second class health care system they created for you. They don’t have to wait in lines.

You voted for Hope and Change, but what you got instead was socialism, economic slavery, and the end of the American Dream.

In 2007, the Commonwealth Fund released a report that compared U.S. health care against several other countries based on a variety of benchmarks. The data were principally derived from statistically random surveys of adult residents and primary care physicians from 2004 to 2006, in the following countries: United States, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Germany, and the Netherlands. This is what the researchers found:

* Canada had the highest percentage of patients (36%) who had to wait six days or more for an appointment with a doctor, but the United States had the second highest percentage (23%) who reported that they had to wait at least this long. New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and the U.K. all had substantially smaller numbers of people reporting waits of 6 days or longer. Canada and the United States, in that order, also had the lowest percentage of persons who said they could get an appointment with a doctor the same or next day.

* The United States had the largest percentage of persons (61%) who said that getting care on nights, weekends, or holidays, without going to the emergency room, was “very” or “somewhat” difficult. In Canada, it was 54%, and in the U.K, 38%. Germany did the best, with only 22% saying that it was difficult to get after-hours care.

* The United States, though, scored well on physicians’ perceptions of how many patients experience long waits for diagnostic tests. 57% of physicians in the U.K, and 51% of Canadian physicians reported that their patients experienced long waits for diagnostic tests, compared to only 9% of U.S. physicians who reported the same.

* The U.K (60%) and Canada (57%) had the highest numbers of persons who had to wait four weeks or more to get to see a specialist physician. In the U.S., only 23% reported a wait of four weeks or more for specialty care.

* The U.S. also did very well on measures of wait times for non-emergency or elective surgery. Only 8% of surveyed patients in the United States reported a wait time of four months or more for elective surgery, compared to 33% in Canada and 41% in the U.K. Germany scored the best, with only 6% reporting a long wait for elective surgery.

The take-away message is that both the United States and Canada do pretty poorly, compared to most other industrialized countries, on how long patients have to wait to get a regular appointment with a primary care physician or after-hours care, but the U.S. does better than most on having shorter wait times for diagnostic procedures, elective surgery, and specialty care. Each of these countries, though, with the exception of the United States, has universal health insurance coverage, funded and regulated in large part by the government, so it doesn’t seem likely that government-subsidized health care, in itself, is the sole factor in determining how long patients are stuck in The Waiting Place. Other factors, like the numbers of primary care physicians and specialists in each country, may be more important.

Of course, we never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Wait Times For Medical Care: How The US Actually Measures Up - Better Health

I work right next to a guy whose parents both live in Canada. He said it's quite funny what Americans say about Canadian health care. He said his mother broke her hip, and in 4 days, she was in the hospital getting "hip replacement surgery".

A girl here told him he lies and he said, "What? It's my parents. I know what goes on there". It was quite funny. Ever since then, I have been skeptical on what the Right "reports".

According to that article, the wait in the UK is 4 weeks. Friend of mine has only just got her op.... she waited 18 MONTHS. She is a single parent, works and was in pain every day for more than 2 years until they finally got it fixed. I live in the UK and I pay into their system. And I have private insurance so I don't have to use their Gawd Awful system.

 

[Oldandtired]

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

 

[Nosmo King]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

 

[Oldandtired]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

how is that when buying into an insurance policy will be reqiured of all people?

Becuase the penalty for not having insurance, if you are caught, is less than 1K a year, and insurance costs as much as 8K a year.

For a 7K savings a year, many will see it as worth a shot.

Do you truly think people wouldnt?

 

[Oldandtired]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

 

[Truthmatters]

Blue Cross praised employees who dropped sick policyholders, lawmaker says - Los Angeles Times

Now I thought you said insurance compnies dont do this?

 

[Nosmo King]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

Maybe it was because a bunch of Conservatives in Congress got involved in the Schiavo case.

Gee! I wonder where they got the authority to do that?

And sure, I'm lying here. There is absolutely no truth to insurance premiums rising. That's all trumped up. Those in chalked togas lording over our health care are as saintly as Wall Street bankers and above reproach.

all the world's ills lay squarely at the feet of those without power and influence. those who cannot make decisions like the saints in the boardroom are to be scraped from the soles of the shoes of the powerful and discarded like a bad prospectus.

 

[Oldandtired]

Blue Cross praised employees who dropped sick policyholders, lawmaker says - Los Angeles Times

Now I thought you said insurance compnies dont do this?

As I have siad...I know your problem TM....READING COMPREHENSION.

Read the article again you moron. It is getting old with you.

Such was claimed, AND denied. And there was no proof that what was claimed was true.

 

[Oldandtired]

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

Maybe it was because a bunch of Conservatives in Congress got involved in the Schiavo case.

Gee! I wonder where they got the authority to do that?

And sure, I'm lying here. There is absolutely no truth to insurance premiums rising. That's all trumped up. Those in chalked togas lording over our health care are as saintly as Wall Street bankers and above reproach.

all the world's ills lay squarely at the feet of those without power and influence. those who cannot make decisions like the saints in the boardroom are to be scraped from the soles of the shoes of the powerful and discarded like a bad prospectus.

I did not say that premiums were not rising. They are. And it is a problem. A big problem.

And what does congress have to do with a woman who calls Brian Williams' office and tells her story about how she has health care...but was diagnosed with cancer...and she was immediately dropped as the insurance company found she had an allergy she never mentioned.

Do you really think NBC news would ignore a story like that?

Really? In this political climate where healthcare is the big story?

But why, with 300 million people, are no stories like that out there for the news to report on?

They had no probnlem reporting on the plight of Terry Schiavo....you really believe it would not be newsworthy if a mother of 3 was dying of cancer at home becuase her insurance company found out she never mentioned her allergy to peanuts?

Basic logic....do not ignore logic.

 

[Truthmatters]

The health insurance industry is done if this passes. Even the dumbest liberals surely can understand that they just have to wait until they are sick to buy insurance and the best part is THEY CAN'T BE DENIED!!!!!!

It's sad that the very thing that made this country great is our independence and liberty and the dumbass liberals in this country want to turn us back into Government slaves....







House leaders announce $940 billion health-care compromise bill

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

But you said these stories are not real remember?

 

[Truthmatters]

Texas Attorney - denied claim - liability - health medical insurance - The Johnson Law Firm | Dallas / Nacogdoches

 

[Oldandtired]

We are slaves now. We are essentially working for insurance companies. Premiums continue to rise beyond the rate of inflation. Claims are denied for silly reasons. Families are broken and people die because of the decisions made by insurance company bureaucrats.

And you have the gall to equate the abuses of private industry with 'independence' and 'liberty'.

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

But you said these stories are not real remember?

Holy crap..I was just dissing you when I say you have a reading comprehension issue.

But you really do!

Go away...I dont have time for the spinning in circles with you.

 

[Truthmatters]

Daily Dose - HHS: Insurance Companies Encourage Employees to "Revoke Sick People's Health Coverage"

 

[Truthmatters]

YOu are not stating fact...you are regurgitating what you hear.

I again ask......

Did you ever sit back and wonder why the news media had us all watch for weeks as Terry Schiavo slowly withered away, but have NEVER ONCE had us watch as a mother slowly dies of cancer becuause she was dropped from her insurance policy becuse she never mentioned that she had an allergy?

I wonder if it is becuase the Terry Schiavo situation was real and factual and these other pathetic stories are exactly that...stories?

But you said these stories are not real remember?

Holy crap..I was just dissing you when I say you have a reading comprehension issue.

But you really do!

Go away...I dont have time for the spinning in circles with you.

I will never go away in the face of lies

 

[Oldandtired]

Texas Attorney - denied claim - liability - health medical insurance - The Johnson Law Firm | Dallas / Nacogdoches

LMAO.....

You give me a web site of a law firm that is marketing its services as proof that such actions exist?

You surely cant be serious....

That is the best you got?

300 million poeple in the country, and the best proof that insurance comapnies deny claims to mothers dying of cancer due to pre existing allergies is a web site of a law firm?

Go away.