GREAT! Jobless Claims Hit 44-Year Low...

With so many abandoning the workforce, it’s no wonder there are jobs opening up.

Come on, is that really all ya got? The nation is at or near Full Employment, and you're still bitchin. Trump's delivering. It is what it is.
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
 
Come on, is that really all ya got? The nation is at or near Full Employment, and you're still bitchin. Trump's delivering. It is what it is.
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it
 
GREAT! Jobless Claims Hit 44-Year Low...

Thank you President Obama!

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Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

You still haven't answered my question. Would you not be blaming Trump 100% if the Jobs Numbers were at record highs?
Have you looked at the actual numbers? Compared the change from year to year? Did you see a dramatic change from 2017 to 2018? Or did the trend continue along the same path they’ve been on for years? Your turn to be honest

You're being very disingenuous. You're trying to have it both ways. You wanna give Trump all the blame if Jobs Numbers are bad, but then give him zero credit if Jobs Numbers are good.
Man, you’ve got to read slower, this is going right over your head. I give Trump credit, just not all the credit. I can’t say who I’d blame for a situation that hasn’t happened yet. You keep avoiding my questions. Now I’ve given you direct and honest answers to your questions and twice now you’ve avoided answering mine and have misrepresented what I’ve said. What’s up with that?
Waiting for your response
 
Come on, is that really all ya got? The nation is at or near Full Employment, and you're still bitchin. Trump's delivering. It is what it is.
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults
 
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it
They won’t talk real numbers, they prefer to stay in fantasy land...
 
Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it
They won’t talk real numbers, they prefer to stay in fantasy land...
Apparently so. Pretty weak debate here, they all ran away when asked for numbers. Pathetic
 
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
I’m just not seeing how you can claim that Trump delivered this. Obama had double digit unemployment when he took over and got it down to where it is now. Trump seems to be taking all the credit. How does that make sense?

Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
 
Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...
 
Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it
They won’t talk real numbers, they prefer to stay in fantasy land...


So in your world jannet and Quantitative easing had nothing to do with it?

It was all Obama and cash for clunkers..
 
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..
 
I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..
The question was clear and you dodged again. The facts don’t support your BS.
 
A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..
The question was clear and you dodged again. The facts don’t support your BS.

I asked you politely please elaborate
 
Wow, 44-Year low? Pretty great. Good on ya Trump. :thup:


New applications for U.S. unemployment benefits unexpectedly fell last week and the number of Americans on jobless rolls declined to a near 44-1/2-year low, pointing to a rapidly tightening labor market.

Initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 4,000 to a seasonally adjusted 218,000 for the week ended June 9, the Labor Department said on Thursday. Claims data for the prior week was unrevised.

Economists had forecast claims rising to 224,000 in the latest week.

The labor market is considered to be close to or at full employment, with the jobless rate at an 18-year low of 3.8 percent.

US jobless rolls declined to a near 44-1/2-year low, pointing to a rapidly tightening labor market
DRUDGE REPORT 2018®


Good news indeed. Good to see the trend continuing from the last 5 years.

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Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Aww, hatas gonna hate. Pretty pathetic, yo.
No seriously, I’m not hating on Trump. He has done some good things for the economy and is helping it improve. I just think it is disingenuous to take all this credit for the unemployment and job rates. Don’t you?

I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
Sorry is that what you call a substantive argument? Just back up your claims with numbers, easy way to win the argument. Go
 
I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
I don't think that. I think he deserves all the credit and I'll explain why.

The average 5th grader knew what had a grip on our economy...those
fuckin' worthless regulations that Zero flooded the country with.

Once The Donald threw all of them in the trash can our economy took off.
And it will continue to soar. Some are now projecting a 4.8 GDP for the 2nd
quarter.

A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..

Can you name even one economic indicator that changed it trajectory after Trump was elected?
 
A ship can't move with its anchor buried in the sand. Once The Donald
raised the anchor, the ship took off.



Perfect analogy ..



.
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Show me with numbers. Projections don’t count. Show me how the numbers improved more in 2017-2018 than they did in the past or how the change was any different than the past years trends. Pick any category. Let’s dig in
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..

Can you name even one economic indicator that changed it trajectory after Trump was elected?


Yup he is doing it with out the feds, Obama needed jannet Trump Doesn't need them.
 
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..

Can you name even one economic indicator that changed it trajectory after Trump was elected?


Yup he is doing it with out the feds, Obama needed jannet trump.does need them.
Come on bear, you are really starting to sound ignorant. Suck it up and act like you know what you’re talking about for a minute. Answer a simple question. Pick an economic category that you feel Trump has changed for the better and then show how he has done so by showing real numbers. If you can do this then you win the argument. Go
 
Fun analogy. How about some real numbers to back it up. I’d like to see how the growth accelerated from the anchor lift. What do you want to review? Unemployment? Jobs? GDP? You call it

Don't throw a tantrum with me, how many times do
Waiting for your response. Don’t hide from the substance. Same goes for you bear513
Let’s dig into the numbers and settle this without the petty insults


You want statistics.

Once again for some unknown reason you thought an anti business president was better then a pro business president?

How does that work in your world..?

Please elaborate..
You are dodging as always. If you have to always dodge, you are on the wrong side...


No you are playing a pacifier game , like you always do and never knows how to debate ..

Can you name even one economic indicator that changed it trajectory after Trump was elected?


Yup he is doing it with out the feds, Obama needed jannet Trump Doesn't need them.


Obama needed yellen to back him up he needed governors like Rick and Halley..

To play his socialist game in a financial melt down, it was obvious..
 

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