Great article on how liberalism has torn England apart, and how we are next

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    UK riots 2011: Britain's liberal intelligentsia has smashed virtually every social value | Mail Online

    That link is fantastic for anyone willing to read it through. It sounds like England's society is about 5-10 years ahead on the road we are travelling. Won't get too into the details of the article since it's linked. And I know its too in-depth and too analytical for the typical liberal to read, so I don't expect them to (which ironically the article discusses regarding libs and their "eduation" or lack of it).

    Some fantastic articles lately on moral vs liberal culture in England and it's effects. All coming from the British media/press, of course, since our media would never hurt someone's feelings by doing a tough analysis of cultures.
     
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    UK riots 2011: The politics of envy was bound to end up in flames | Mail Online

    Wow. The British media is on top of the threat of liberalism like nothing I've ever seen in US media. This guy is going to the top of my must-read list.

    This article explains how the Politics of Envy always will lead to violence.
    A few exerpts:

    "He may claim he’s having a pop at bankers and non-doms, but on the streets the ‘rich’ are anyone who has achieved something in life, from the owners of the local family furniture store to the proprietors of Patel’s Multimart and Papandreou’s Hair Salon — anyone, in fact, who is perceived to have more than them. "

    "We’ve heard the usual garbage about social exclusion and police hostility to minorities. Every lame excuse has been trotted out, from lack of job opportunities to tuition fees.
    As I wrote on Tuesday, there’s no lack of job vacancies, it’s just that they’ve all been filled by hard-working Eastern Europeans attracted here after Labour tore up Britain’s border controls."

    "As Max Hastings and Melanie Phillips have argued eloquently on these pages, this is the inevitable outcome of 30 years of Left-wing social experimentation, aimed deliberately at destroying the social fabric of our country."

    "The police are hamstrung by legislation and terrified of being accused of racism. So it’s hardly surprising that instead of clubbing these looters like baby seals, which is what they deserved, they initially stood back and watched while shops were plundered and homes burned down"
     
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    The attitude he outlines is spot on. That to the typical left wing street walker, the interpretation of "the rich" isn't the billionaire CEO. It's anyone who has accomplished something, or anyone who simply has more than him/her.

    This shit is headed our way unless we learn the lessons of London right now. ENOUGH class warfare and politics of envy.
     
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    You keep posting new threads about this. Why?

    America has only moved right in the past 3 decades. America was much more liberal after WWII up until the Carter Administration. Even Republicans were moderate and accepted many of the New Deal policies. Heck, even Nixon was probably more liberal than Obama. Here is Eisenhower writing to his brother in 1954.

    “Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

    We have only moved to the right since the Reagan Revolution.
     
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    Really? I disagree. We've grown into more of a left wing nanny state with each passing year.

    In the 1950's we didn't have cops shutting down children's lemonade stands for not having the $300 permit. We didn't have such a fanatical push for tolerance of anything to the point that nothing is sacred or bad, but all is equal.

    The number of people who are living off the gov't handouts has exploded. We've become a nanny state, and it's getting worse. We're headed down the exact same path England is.


    Sorry for the 2 threads, but both articles I though were fantastic.
     
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    The nanny state isn't strictly a liberal ideal. Conservatives have been quite actively using the power of the government to shape market outcomes, never mind their bans on porn, birth control, drugs, smoking, etc.
    The Conservative Nanny State

    Let's not forget big government republicans and Terri Schiavo.

    The shutting down of lemonade stands is fucking idiotic. However, Affirmative Action was passed under the Kennedy administration. I am not sure why you hostile towards tolerance. Perhaps it stems from Republican xenophobia which is displayed very often here.

    Corporate welfare has increased over the years. However, I don't see Republicans going after this sort of welfare. Sometimes an occasional one will talk a good game, but that is about it. Instead, Republicans attack welfare aimed at the poor and elderly, showing their true colors all while bitching and moaning about welfare.

    I am sorry. I thought it was the same opinion piece article from the tabloid paper, the Daily Mail. They must be on a roll.
     
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    Got hysteria?


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    Looks to me like the vast majority of people remained law abiding citizens.
     
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    It's conservative economic policies that caused those riots. Just like the way conservatives have trashed the economy here. Keep following those destructive policies and you will find riots happening all over America. Look at Wisconsin and Florida. Two states very close to riots.
     
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    Only 6% of rioters are scientists
     
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    I'm wondering if we might start having riots in this country... and what the political fallout will be.
     

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