Grave Parallels Between de Gualle And Chirac

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    I came across this while skimming Fareed Zakaria (editor of Newsweek Int'l and the brightest young foreign affairs analyst in the world, bar none).

    Padisha, Ali and all the other folks who want to know why we have problems with France should take note. See how de Gualle acts compared to Chirac.

    so my question is, why did this lack of trust occur? When did America so badly mislead or lie to the French to cause this massive drop in trust between 1962 and 2004? After all, you lied to us about selling weapons to Iraq, about making money off the oil for food scandal, and countless other issues. When did we lie to you?
     
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    hey

    read my fingers

    THE PAST IS OVER.
    Why are we expected to forget the past (like Ronny and Rummy), while you guys go on and on about things which don't matter any more.

    De Gaulle trusted the US because they hadn't done all the shitty things you've done since WWII.

    NOBODY in the world trusts or even likes the US any more. You've managed to piss of nearly every nation on this globe and are continuing to make more and more enemies everywhere, especially in countries, like the UK, which you think are your friends. You will see how much you are liked come the next UK elections. Blair is behind the Social Democrats! Even UKIP is beating Labour's ass in areas they used to dominate.
    The war in Iraq is hugely unpopular in Britain, but I doubt you know that, seeing as you didn't even know about the effects of the 45 minutes scandal on Tony Blair's political career!

    Why are you telling Taiwan to aim missiles (which you sold them) at the Three Gorges Dam! Why are you fucking with the Chinese? Why did you not apologise to them when one of your spy planes got knocked down? You said you were sorry that your plane went down, not that it was in Chinese airspace, in the first place. I don't think that this was quite the answer you Why does your current administration think it can ignore internationally-agreed treaties, like Kyoto, when the rest of the world agreed; tearing up arms limitation agreements and laughing at anyone who tried to tell you that wasn't cool?

    Why do you not see that having a president whose Daddy has (had?) an oil services company, and a vice president who was CEO of a major oil-industry-related company and who is still a major shareholder; when the majority of Bush's campaign funds comes from oil-related donors. Why does this not make the rest of the world think that the fact that you invaded Iraq was because you wanted to control the oil supply?

    I know that you think this all this power is great and that watching GI's kicking Iraqi ass on Fox makes you think that your country is the mightiest and the best and that you are invincible... but how long can you continue to fight? I understand you are still pissed about 9/11. I was too. It was the single most shocking thing I have ever witnessed and I could not believe it was actually happening. I wept for the people I saw jumping to their deaths and for everybody else who died that day. But lashing out blindly at Afghanistan, in pain and rage was a mistake. It was exactly what the perpetrators wanted you to do. Whoever planned and executed it knew what you would do next. The UN helped you to eject the Taliban from Afghanistan and we thought you'd be satisfied, but it was just the beginning. Afghanistan was barely under control when you started demanding we attack Iraq, a country that had no proven ties with Al Queda and no current WMD manufacturing program. Now you want to attack Iran and are already starting the old "they're building a bomb" chicken little stylee rhetoric.

    Will you stop when you get OBL? Why haven't you managed to find him? You are somewhat better-equipped than he is. You have satellites which can read the lettering on the side of an AK-47 and yet he remains At Large. Why is that? Has it ever occured to you that he might be the Boogie Man, or whatever terrible monster it was that your parents might have made up to scare you into doing what they wanted? Without him you don't really have a reason to continue wreaking vengeance on the Arab World for 9/11. Maybe that's why he's managed to disappear.

    You can't maintain this. Your deficit is reaching unbelievable levels. You buy far, far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more than you sell. You've deliberately devalued your currency and it's still huge. You are making yourselves more and more vulnerable to collapse and if you carry on fighting unsustainable wars in the Middle East, it will. And if the US economy collapses (again, remember the Great Depression) then we all feel the pinch.

    Your Ivory Towers are rotting and crumbling at the base. Multinationals are exporting your jobs at an unbelievable rate and the government's blaming the job shortage on the immigrants. Never mind, when your government finally bans anybody from entering the US, which is what it seems to be trying to do, then YOU can do all the shitty jobs that they currently do, because all the IT, service, farming, manufacturing, etc. jobs will be in countries where highly skilled workers will do you job for a fraction of the price. This is not a political issue, it is purely economic and will happen regardless of who you vote for.

    The scales have shifted, my friends. Bush and his buddies are selling your country from under your feet while Rupert Murdoch tells you everything's OK and when you suddenly find that your job's been Offshored, Bush and Cheney will be sitting, out of reach, on an enormous stack of money, smoking cuban cigars and laughing at you. They are politicians, they are oilmen and they do NOT have anybody's best interests at heart, other than their own.
     
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    Distracted by Farnborough 2004 on TV

    I was there. Airbus A340-600 took off from half the runway and did some incredible maneuvers. It carries 372 passengers. The 747-400 had to fly from Heathrow because the Farnborough runway is too short, carries 403 passengers and looked very, very slow and heavy in the air, compared to the Airbus.

    Eurofighter made F-18 look a bit like a 747, too!
     
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    :ali:
     
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    http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2003127.asp


     
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    WTF is a Turbin?

    Was that a racist insult?

    Maybe you should go here and make those sorts of comments. Lots of Bush supporters for you to chat to.
     
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    You are for sure a troll! stormfront! LOL You do not know SE or the regs here. We give those short shift for different reasons that we do the same to you. Loser!
     
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    Your board
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    seems like there are a LOT of white nationalists

    Nice for Bush, innit?
     
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    I see you're trying to bury this post with petty accusations and haven't commented on anything I've said. Tried to change the subject, too.

    Why do you keep changing the subject? This post is in the Europe section and it's about why you are so unpopular over here.

    If I'm a troll, then ban me, rather than wasting space with petty posts? You people act more like trolls than I do. You deliberately try to get a rise out of me and have admitted to baiting me in your dorky 'ali hates GOP' thread. Your responses to my post were irrelevant and purile. Do you not want to discuss any of these things, or have you made up your minds already, in which case I'm wasting my time trying to engage in aome sort of discussion with you about what your country is doing.

    Did you even read my post?
     
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    Hello? You are calling yourself out! This is a sign of needed help!
     

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