Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency.

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    I never thought of using a Grand Jury to bring up charges of treason for Usurping the Office of the Presidency. They intend on using the 5th Ammendment of the Constitution. This is a different strategy where all other cases have failed and the 5th Ammendment grants them standing. The 5th Amendment is part of the Bill Of Rights. The Bill Of Rights was written specifically for granting certain powers to the people and only the people. The powers for the three branches of government are cited in the body of the Constitution that were enacted two years earlier. The 5th Amendment does not set a minimal standard of evidence. It provides two different methods for the people to bring charges, either by Presentment or indictment, hence the wording "unless on a presentment or indictment". The anarchy would be in allowing any of the three branches of government the power of the grand jury.


    Yesterday was a historic day.. and it all happened in the small Tennessee town of Madisonville located in Monroe County

    Commander Fitzpatrick arrived at the Monroe County Court with documents and evidence in hand.

    WVLT-TV in Knoxville, TN did a live video report. Watch the Video:
    Monroe County man seeks indictments on President Obama for treason

    Lt. Commander Walter Fitzpatrick has been at the forefront of the Obama “treason” charges since before the election. American Grand Jury has been involved convening Grand Juries that include among other things, the Fitzpatrick “Criminal Complaint” that was filed back in March, 2009 with US Attorney Russell Dedrick and Assistant US Attorney Edward Schmutzer for the Eastern District Tennessee.

    Here are the list of Charges. They are precise and to the Point and they make Sense especially when it comes to Obamas mother when she gave birth.
    United States District Court - Response to Judge Lamberth

    Many are now aware of the “obstruction” of justice that has occurred over the past few months where District Attorney James H. Stutts and Grand Jury Foreman Gary Pettway have refused to let Commander Fitzpatrick appear and testify before the Monroe County Grand Jury. Fitzpatrick’s testimony involves the formal charges of “fraud and treason” against Barack Obama.

    That refusal was recently recinded by Monroe County and the offer to now appear before the Grand Jury was extended to Commander Fitzpatrick. Of course, we are guessing that the pending charges of “obstruction” against Stutts and Pettway filed by Fitzpatrick had a lot to do with the Court changing its mind
     
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    Funny stuff. :lol:

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    The Constitution defines treason thusly:

    "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." - Article 3, Section 3 United States Constitution

    Which exactly is President Obama guilty of?
     
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    or we will just have to wait until 2012. :lol:
     
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    Obama is marginally to be prefered over Biden and or Pelosi...
     
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    Just wanted to jump in here before this is thrown in the "conspiracy theory" corner with all the other "birther" non-sense.

    1.) Citizen's "grand juries" are simply another word for "citizen's mob". They have no legal authority and have been (and will continue to be) ignored by the legal system.

    2.) The birthers are something like 0-80 on court cases and motions. You don't get to create special courts, simply because you can't win in real court.

    3.) Any citizen does not have standing to sue the President over eligibility. Before people piss and moan about that, please recall Bush v. Gore in 2000. If any single citizen could stymie the electorial process by filing suit against the president, then any dissatisfied citizen could prevent the seating of a president. It would be a de facto road block to the electorial process.

    4.) Military officers do not have standing to sue the President over eligibility. The was recently re-affirmed in the "Rhodes" case.

    5.) The judicial branch does not have the power to remove a seated President. Only the legislative branch can do that. This was recently re-affirmed in the "Keyes" case.

    6.) Walter Fitzpatrick is a disgraced Naval Officer who was court martialed for the miss-appropriation of MWR funds. He was allowed to retire with his rank. Due to that incident, Fitzpatrick has had a 20 year grudge against the government. He maintains he was railroaded, but that has not been the finding of anyone but Fitzpatrick. He, frankly, appears to be unstable and has called for the conviction of every President since Reagan.

    Like Tatiz, the birthers pick the most bizarre people to shack up with. Not surprising, considering how crazy their position is.
     
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    this is a joke, right?

    Surely, the oft debunked "birther" nonsense isn't being brought up once again, is it?
     
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    Whoops. This was an actual grand jury (well, a panal of three), not a "citizen's grand jury". I am sure this will go over like a lead balloon.

    I think this quote from Fitzpatrick is telling:

     
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    That "grand jury" does not sound so grand. Perhaps more than 1/2 bubble out of plumb?
     
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    Terry Shut the $%$ Up!

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    Look lets just say for shits and giggles Obama isn't a Citizen of the USA. Does anyone really think that any real investigation will happen? Do they think anything will change?

    I mean really, Obama could slip and say he isn't a citizen right now and still nothing would be done about it.

    This guy is frustrated and has every right to bring it to court, this will not go anywhere.
     

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