GOVT WASTE II: Romney is WRONG; There is plenty in Defense we can cut.

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    Wanna really be serious about slashing government spending and waste? Well, as the right says, EVERYONE needs to have "skin in the game" (A dumbass quote that is catching fire lately). Well, everyone means "EVERYONE", so Romney Inc can get over that bullshit about it being "reckless" to look for waste in the Dept of Defense. Here are some fine examples, although I already provided the thread on US Marines doing police work in Nicaragua to catch petty drug dealers (Yeah, thats what our tax money should be doing).

    World Wide Military Deployments

    Those are worldwide US military deployments. Keep in mind, they get "per diem" pay, combat pay for flying over somewhere that bullets are flying, and all sorts of other perks while deployed. And thats fine...in a true war zone. But why do we have US military "deployed" in:

    Netherlands
    Djibouti
    Spain
    Guam
    Italy (really? Is Snooki gonna invade us?)
    Iceland
    Diego Garcia (yeah, it's an actual place)
    Belgium
    Greece
    Norway

    Well, you can check the link.

    Massive government waste sending countless government employees to these foreign countries, paying for housing, per diem, haircuts, etc, etc, etc. WHY? We aren't at war with any of those places. We aren't the world police. Norway and Iceland can fend for themselves, it's not MY tax dollars that should be policing Nicaragua or making Spain feel safe from the Nazis.....70 years later.

    Sure, pulling all those people out of there would cause us to have a big surplus in military personnel. But hey, just downsize, through attrition if necessary. All those extra military folks can just get jobs in the private sector like the rest of us.

    Romney/Ryan....time to make sure everyone has some skin in the game and cut defense.
     
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    Your threads suck, Attention Whore.
     
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    Nobody doubts there are places to cut DEF spending.... checking contracts, stopping payment to contractors not delivering... auditing the whole department to eliminate waste

    But evidently you have ZERO idea of the importance of some jobs in Belgium, Italy, etc... else you would not be looking to close those places down.... trust me, you want those posts serving us

    And downsize the military?? :rolleyes:.. yeah, we see where that move by Clinton got us

    So, yes.. audit and cut some spending from DEF.... but you best be eliminating entitlements, welfare, etc that the federal government has ZERO business spending on
     
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    Oh, we are. Romney/Ryan, who will probably win, are gonna cut entitlement. But why stop there?

    The "importance" of MANY government jobs is misunderstood. BUT, as some on the right way, WE ARE BROKE. Society will have to find a way to move on without it.

    So we can't have military folks on deployment in Italy, Iceland, Belgium anymore? Oh well. Our boys beat the Nazis, they'll find a way to adapt. So will the rest of the world.

    And yes, downsize the military. Why not? We're broke. We'll adapt. So will the rest of the world. My tax dollars should be spent securing Iceland. And it shouldn't be spent on a military....aka government employee....being sent to Norway on a glorified 6 month vacation where he/she gets per diem pay, housing, meals, and all the extra perks and pay that comes with it. Its waste.

    Everyone needs to have some skin in the game. Lots of government jobs that are being cut serve some kind of importance to someone, even if others dont think so, but it's all being cut.

    Time to include ALL government jobs in the cuts.....meaning military too. There are plenty of private sector jobs the surplus military personnel could go get rather than living off the taxpayer dime for life.
     
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    Those posts aren't serving me. They arent in my city, or state, or even my country. My tax money is being spent to keep S. Korea safe from N. Korea. That isn't serving me. Time to bring 'em home. The world will adapt. So will S Korea. If it isnt the US Federal Govt's job to support my city/state, then it sure as hell isn't the Feds job to support Seoul, South Korea either.

    But dont worry. Those 30,000 US troops in S Korea can find jobs here in the private sector like the rest of us.
     
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    Oh, wow, that is a really good arument against my original premise. Great insight and logic there:clap2:

    Seriously, is that all you got? Let me guess....I should shut up, and put a "Support the Troops" bumper sticker on my car and just assume all military spending is GOOD, and all other govt spending maybe not so good right?
     
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    1) You are clueless to the missions going on at SHAPE, in Italy, etc.... those will not be going away... you will see entire agencies and massive massive cuts elsewhere before you see those go

    2) You do not cut the military manning... Clinton did with DISASTROUS results... besides, we are constitutionally charged to have a suitable military... we are not constitutionally charged to back your college loan, give you a cell phone, make sure you have cheese, etc

    3) Yes, EVERY department and all of us have some skin in the game (well, except the ~47% who pay no federal income taxes, but that is another argument).. and there need to be cuts everywhere... but you are absolutely clueless on what things in the military are necessary, etc... (as evidenced by your 'glorified 6 month vacation' bullshit statement)
     
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    Another military cut: Our local Navy base has an "MWR" unit, Morale, Welfare, Recreation.

    ALL of those units should be slashed from the military.

    Private sector employees have to find their own recreational activities. Our govt money shouldnt' be spent for a govt program for govt employees to have entertainment. They can go to the private sector movie theater or ball games like the rest of us.

    More waste cut!
     
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    Bolded part shows your cluelessness... leave suggestions about defense to those who actually know something about it.... you are about as confused as a blind lesbian in a fish market
     

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