Government's At It Again!!

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    1. President Reagan famously said The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
    When will supporters of progressive politicians realize this?

    2. Hand-wringing and roiling that government and media caused over increases in healthcare costs are based on this kind of analysis: “There is general agreement that the current 6% annual increase in health care costs is disastrous and unsustainable; it is projected to lead to a doubling of costs in a decade or so and insolvency for the Medicare program in 8 years. There seems to be some agreement that the long-term goal should be annual growth paralleling that of the gross domestic product (GDP), about 3% per year.” MMS: Error

    3. But, just today,from USAToday: “Tuition and fees at America's public colleges rose more than 8% this year as a weakened economy and severe cuts in state funding took their toll, a report out today says. Public four-year universities charged residents an average of $8,244, up 8.3% from last year, while public two-year schools charged an average of $2,963, up 8.7%, says the report by the non-profit College Board. About 80% of the nation's undergraduates attend public institutions.” Tuition and fees rise more than 8% at U.S. public colleges

    4. The pattern for which I’d like to connect the dots is that attempts by big government to solve problems often makes the problems bigger, and worse than the original.

    a. Anyone familiar with the economic details of ObamaCare knows that costs for healthcare will rise dramatically.

    b. government loan programs are the proximal cause of the college cost increases above….

    c. government pressure on banks to give loans to less than eligible borrowers caused the mortgage meltdown.

    5. The solution:

    a. government should be restrained from any endeavors beyond the enumerated powers in the Constitution.

    b. government out of the free market beyond oversight to prevent illegalities; no government educational loans; no Freddie nor Fannie; no ObamaCare.

    c. vote out all progressives
     
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    So, as corporations are not forcing universities and colleges to increase tuition and that is a huge gripe of OWS, why aren't they on campuses?
     
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    I get your drift...

    What we know is that O's are, in Pelosi-galore's words, Astro Turf.

    Created and a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Left. So...why would they attacke the minor-leagues of the Left...the universities.


    Don't you find it interesting that college costs are climbing faster than healthcare cost were in '08, yet not a peep from the Demcrats...



    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVWArmysic&feature=related]Wolfgang and friend: "Very interesting ... but stupid" - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    deregulation caused this mess you fools.
     
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    Exactly. :thup:

    Not so much interesting as completely obvious.

    To the thinking person, that is.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs]Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis - YouTube[/ame]

    Look at all those Democrats against regulation!
     
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    That is an excellent vid...and very telling.

    Here, more proof that the Bush administration tried to regulate, to put the brakes on....
    ...I'll bet that out friend, Ms. Truthie, hasn't seen this, even though it is from the house-organ of the Democrats...the NYTimes:

    WASHINGTON, Sept. 10— The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
    Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

    Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
    New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae - NYTimes.com
     
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    So? Deregulation was the problem. Doesn't matter which party did or didn't support it.

    It is so nice though to see all these 'free market' conservatives acknowledging the absolutely vital need for strict regulation of financial institutions.

    Quite ironic isn't it?
     
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    :offtopic:
    I wonder if there is a correlation between the skyrocketing health care costs and the high tuition charged by post secondary schools. Most of the doctors go deep in debt to survive, what 8 years or more of college, and to pay off those debts they need to charge the consumer. Of course all the technicians who have to go to school must pay off their debts too. A little simplistic maybe, because the drug companies tack on a bunch on prescriptions and Hospitals must take their cut too.

    Government regulation has its places and is necessary. However it can also become obsessive and even though the intent sometimes may be good the result can can be catastrophic. There has to be a happy medium between the two and it is this battle between what is good and what is bad that will be with us forever as long as there is a government. Over time, as history has proven, the pendulum of regulation swings to and fro and eventually there will be times of less regulation.
     
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    Not at all.

    What IS ironic is those who use black and white fallacies to simplify a topic to a level that matches theirs. ;)
     

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