Government killing minors who are American citizens

Amelia · Oct 21, 2011

I know that a large portion of this board favored killing Anwar al-Awlaki even though our gov't had not first filed charges against him much less obtained a conviction.

But are you in favor of killing minor children who are American citizens?

Do you trust a government which can't even get the ages correct of the young people it is killing? If they had to actually go through the motions of filing charges first they would have to do a little bit of investigation and maybe they would think better of killing children. At least I hope they would.

The killing of Awlaki’s 16-year-old son - Salon.com

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's birth certificate - The Washington Post

Two weeks after the U.S. killed American citizen Anwar Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen — far from any battlefield and with no due process — it did the same to his 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, ending the teenager’s life on Friday along with his 17-year-old cousin and seven other people. News reports, based on government sources, originally claimed that Awlaki’s son was 21 years old and an Al Qaeda fighter (needless to say, as Terrorist often means: “anyone killed by the U.S.&#8221, but a birth certificate published by The Washington Post proved that he was born only 16 years ago in Denver. As The New Yorker‘s Amy Davidson wrote: “Looking at his birth certificate, one wonders what those assertions say either about the the quality of the government’s evidence — or the honesty of its claims — and about our own capacity for self-deception.” The boy’s grandfather said that he and his cousin were at a barbecue and preparing to eat when the U.S. attacked them by air and ended their lives.
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asaratis · Oct 21, 2011

Amelia said: ↑

I know that a large portion of this board favored killing Anwar al-Awlaki even though our gov't had not first filed charges against him much less obtained a conviction.

But are you in favor of killing minor children who are American citizens?

Do you trust a government which can't even get the ages correct of the young people it is killing? If they had to actually go through the motions of filing charges first they would have to do a little bit of investigation and maybe they would think better of killing children. At least I hope they would.

The killing of Awlaki’s 16-year-old son - Salon.com

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's birth certificate - The Washington Post

Two weeks after the U.S. killed American citizen Anwar Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen — far from any battlefield and with no due process — it did the same to his 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, ending the teenager’s life on Friday along with his 17-year-old cousin and seven other people. News reports, based on government sources, originally claimed that Awlaki’s son was 21 years old and an Al Qaeda fighter (needless to say, as Terrorist often means: “anyone killed by the U.S.&#8221, but a birth certificate published by The Washington Post proved that he was born only 16 years ago in Denver. As The New Yorker‘s Amy Davidson wrote: “Looking at his birth certificate, one wonders what those assertions say either about the the quality of the government’s evidence — or the honesty of its claims — and about our own capacity for self-deception.” The boy’s grandfather said that he and his cousin were at a barbecue and preparing to eat when the U.S. attacked them by air and ended their lives.
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Kill ALL radical terrorists, their children, their grandchildren...and all who support them...no matter their age or citizenship in any one or more countries!

syrenn · Oct 21, 2011

Amelia said: ↑

I know that a large portion of this board favored killing Anwar al-Awlaki even though our gov't had not first filed charges against him much less obtained a conviction.

But are you in favor of killing minor children who are American citizens?

Do you trust a government which can't even get the ages correct of the young people it is killing? If they had to actually go through the motions of filing charges first they would have to do a little bit of investigation and maybe they would think better of killing children. At least I hope they would.

The killing of Awlakis 16-year-old son - Salon.com

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki's birth certificate - The Washington Post

Two weeks after the U.S. killed American citizen Anwar Awlaki with a drone strike in Yemen far from any battlefield and with no due process it did the same to his 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, ending the teenagers life on Friday along with his 17-year-old cousin and seven other people. News reports, based on government sources, originally claimed that Awlakis son was 21 years old and an Al Qaeda fighter (needless to say, as Terrorist often means: anyone killed by the U.S.), but a birth certificate published by The Washington Post proved that he was born only 16 years ago in Denver. As The New Yorkers Amy Davidson wrote: Looking at his birth certificate, one wonders what those assertions say either about the the quality of the governments evidence or the honesty of its claims and about our own capacity for self-deception. The boys grandfather said that he and his cousin were at a barbecue and preparing to eat when the U.S. attacked them by air and ended their lives.
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Works for me.

and if he has another one .... kill him too.

CT9 · Oct 21, 2011

This makes what I believe a bad precedent Obama has set to a completely unacceptable one.

High_Gravity · Oct 21, 2011

His son was knee deep in the game, I don't remember Al Qaeda taking precautions to try and not kill American kids.

Amelia · Oct 21, 2011

High_Gravity said: ↑

His son was knee deep in the game, I don't remember Al Qaeda taking precautions to try and not kill American kids.
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We're supposed to be better than they are.

If he was "knee deep" we should have been able to prove it. If we didn't even know enough about him to have his age right, how can you trust anything else you've heard against him?

Seawytch · Oct 21, 2011

So if I'm driving drunk with my kid in the car and hit a tree...it's the tree's fault?

Amelia · Oct 21, 2011

Our government killed a 16-year-old American citizen whose grandfather says he was just getting ready to eat.

Our government claimed he was 21 and involved in war-like activities.

Something is profoundly wrong with this picture.

High_Gravity · Oct 21, 2011

Amelia said: ↑

High_Gravity said: ↑

His son was knee deep in the game, I don't remember Al Qaeda taking precautions to try and not kill American kids.
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We're supposed to be better than they are.

If he was "knee deep" we should have been able to prove it. If we didn't even know enough about him to have his age right, how can you trust anything else you've heard against him?
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If he was innocent what was he doing in an Al Qaeda hide out? His age is really irrelevant to me if he was working with Al Qaeda to kill Americans. In Yemen 16 is a man anyways they don't do the whole ""minor" thing like we do here.

syrenn · Oct 21, 2011

Amelia said: ↑

Our government killed a 16-year-old American citizen whose grandfather says he was just getting ready to eat.

Our government claimed he was 21 and involved in war-like activities.

Something is profoundly wrong with this picture.
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I have zero issue with it. One less terrorist in the world.

How do you know we were not targeting one of the 17 other people he was with?

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