Government Jobs Pay Good These Days

[editec]

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Pay rates for Senior Executive Service (SES), Senior Level (SL) and Scientific & Professional (ST) positions range from $119,554 to $179,700.
NOTE: SL & ST employees receive the appropriate percentage pay adjustment for their area.

No doubt some government sincures are overpaid, and some of them, by comparison to public jobs requiring the same amount of education and work are underpaid.

edited to note (crap! the format evaporated)


the more easily understood chart is here

 

[immto]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

I see you don't work in the public sector.

Perhaps he tried to work as there and was denied...therfore we get this thread?

I don't want anything to do with a public sector job. I might run for office one day but I have no interest in being a bureaucrat. I have respect for those who have served in an honorable fashion but how honorable is it now when they make better coin than those in the private sector. Think about it. Now people are going to say, "Well I've spent my time working for a private company, now I'm going to work for the government and make some real money."

How messed up is that?

 

[immto]

To begrudge any working person the money they make is the absolute height of pettiness.

If they work for us, we have the right to scrutinize what WE are paying them.

 

[editec]

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18398
18990
19579
20171
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21104
21694
21717
22269
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20017
20493
21155
21717
21961
22607
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21840
22568
23296
24024
24752
25480
26208
26936
27664
28392
728
4
24518
25335
26152
26969
27786
28603
29420
30237
31054
31871
817
5
27431
28345
29259
30173
31087
32001
32915
33829
34743
35657
914
6
30577
31596
32615
33634
34653
35672
36691
37710
38729
39748
1019
7
33979
35112
36245
37378
38511
39644
40777
41910
43043
44176
1133
8
37631
38885
40139
41393
42647
43901
45155
46409
47663
48917
1254
9
41563
42948
44333
45718
47103
48488
49873
51258
52643
54028
1385
10
45771
47297
48823
50349
51875
53401
54927
56453
57979
59505
1526
11
50287
51963
53639
55315
56991
58667
60343
62019
63695
65371
1676
12
60274
62283
64292
66301
68310
70319
72328
74337
76346
78355
2009
13
71674
74063
76452
78841
81230
83619
86008
88397
90786
93175
2389
14
84697
87520
90343
93166
95989
98812
101635
104458
107281
110104
2823
15
99628
102949
106270
109591
112912
116233
119554
122875
126196
129517
3321

Pay rates for Senior Executive Service (SES), Senior Level (SL) and Scientific & Professional (ST) positions range from $119,554 to $179,700.
NOTE: SL & ST employees receive the appropriate percentage pay adjustment for their area.

No doubt some government sincures are overpaid, and some of them, by comparison to public jobs requiring the same amount of education and work are underpaid.

edited to note (crap! the format evaporated)


the more easily understood chart is here

BTW, if anybody knows of a good government sinecure, one demanding not too much actual work, but demanding a high degree of creative thinking (and thinking outside the box virtually guaranteed to annoy my immediate supervisors, too) please let me know.

Something demanding that I must relocate to Hawaii or Jamaica or some other tropical clime would be nice, too.

 

[FA_Q2]

government jobs require conformity NOT creative thinking

 

[rightwinger]

government jobs require conformity NOT creative thinking

Yes

If you worked for the Government in the 1950s

 

[Kex]

Get a job in public sector then. What stops you?

 

[DE3]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

I think the real question is why is the private sector ripping its workers off?

 

[Kex]

read em and weap

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AMOUNTS
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17803
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19579
20171
20519
21104
21694
21717
22269
VARIES
2
20017
20493
21155
21717
21961
22607
23253
23899
24545
25191
VARIES
3
21840
22568
23296
24024
24752
25480
26208
26936
27664
28392
728
4
24518
25335
26152
26969
27786
28603
29420
30237
31054
31871
817
5
27431
28345
29259
30173
31087
32001
32915
33829
34743
35657
914
6
30577
31596
32615
33634
34653
35672
36691
37710
38729
39748
1019
7
33979
35112
36245
37378
38511
39644
40777
41910
43043
44176
1133
8
37631
38885
40139
41393
42647
43901
45155
46409
47663
48917
1254
9
41563
42948
44333
45718
47103
48488
49873
51258
52643
54028
1385
10
45771
47297
48823
50349
51875
53401
54927
56453
57979
59505
1526
11
50287
51963
53639
55315
56991
58667
60343
62019
63695
65371
1676
12
60274
62283
64292
66301
68310
70319
72328
74337
76346
78355
2009
13
71674
74063
76452
78841
81230
83619
86008
88397
90786
93175
2389
14
84697
87520
90343
93166
95989
98812
101635
104458
107281
110104
2823
15
99628
102949
106270
109591
112912
116233
119554
122875
126196
129517
3321

Pay rates for Senior Executive Service (SES), Senior Level (SL) and Scientific & Professional (ST) positions range from $119,554 to $179,700.
NOTE: SL & ST employees receive the appropriate percentage pay adjustment for their area.

No doubt some government sincures are overpaid, and some of them, by comparison to public jobs requiring the same amount of education and work are underpaid.

edited to note (crap! the format evaporated)


the more easily understood chart is here

BTW, if anybody knows of a good government sinecure, one demanding not too much actual work, but demanding a high degree of creative thinking (and thinking outside the box virtually guaranteed to annoy my immediate supervisors, too) please let me know.

Something demanding that I must relocate to Hawaii or Jamaica or some other tropical clime would be nice, too.

Seems like you're a perfect candidate for janitor position, send your resume, no criminal record please..

 

[AVG-JOE]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

What the FUCK are you talking about?!?!


Private Insurance Executive: $296,979.00 + BIG bonu$es to find clever ways to prevent claims from being paid.

LINK: Average Chief Agency Executive Salary. Chief Agency Executive Job, Career Education & Unemployment




Same duties in management at Social Security and Medicare: $127,604.00 + Federal Holiday Schedule and a job you can leave in the office at the end of the day.

Assuming you are there long enough to make GS-15 / step 10! Most are probably in the high 5 figures.​

http://www.opm.gov/oca/09tables/pdf/gs.pdf

SOURCE LINK FOR GS TABLE: Social Security Online -- Boston Region--Employment info



But wait, there's more!

Back in 1984 a legend for good or bad in American Politics, Ronald Reagan, pushed through a bill that ended Civil Service and its percs to all Federal employees hired after that year. People going to work for the rest of us now are enrolled in Social Security and they buy their own health insurance, paying comparable rates to employees of large businesses.

Yes, that applies to congress too, so once the dead-wood like McSame, hired before 1984 are gone, leadership in congress will have a vested, personal interest in fixing at least that program.

Just one more reason, as if we didn't have enough, to vote ALL the current leadership out on their asses.​

 

[oreo]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

Yep--the 1st time that the federal government is expanding faster than the private sector. The Federal government is expanding in leaps & bounds while the private sector is still shredding jobs.

Not only great pay, great benefits--but HELL you can never get laid off of your federal government job (without a congressional order).--

 

[immto]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

Yep--the 1st time that the federal government is expanding faster than the private sector. The Federal government is expanding in leaps & bounds while the private sector is still shredding jobs.

Not only great pay, great benefits--but HELL you can never get laid off of your federal government job (without a congressional order).--

Like I was saying. One day soon kids will grow up looking forward to a government job.

 

[rightwinger]

What happened to the old principle that Public Sector Workers make less since they receive great Benefits that far exceed what most in the private sector receive? How is it that all the latest reports show that the median difference between Public Sector jobs and Private sector jobs is now $11,000.00. That's a large difference for people who work for the public. Is this an accident? I don't think so. Pro Government politicians know it's always hard to reduce the size of government and it's nearly impossible to cut their pay. So the more highly paid bureaucrats there are the better for those who only want to grow the size of Government.

This also helps those same politicians gain support at election time. Who's going to support the person who wants to cut your pay or eliminate your job. If the Large Government Liberals and Socialists can grow the size of government to a point where it along with Union Labor exceeds that of the private sector, it will mark the end of Liberty in the United States of America.

Can you imagine, a country where kids grow up dreaming of getting a Government job instead of running their own business or working up to leading a strong successful company. I'm not talking about Policeman or Fireman but Bureaucrats. Can you imagine, Does Billy want to run his own business? NO, he wants to work in the office of Labor and Statistics. It pays a six figure salary and has life time benefits along with promotions on a regular basis that are only based on length of service and require no exceptional work his behalf.

Pretty sweet deal, don't you think?

Yep--the 1st time that the federal government is expanding faster than the private sector. The Federal government is expanding in leaps & bounds while the private sector is still shredding jobs.

Not only great pay, great benefits--but HELL you can never get laid off of your federal government job (without a congressional order).--

Like I was saying. One day soon kids will grow up looking forward to a government job.

Good for them.

We need Americas best and brightest to run our Government

 

[DiamondDave]

Yep--the 1st time that the federal government is expanding faster than the private sector. The Federal government is expanding in leaps & bounds while the private sector is still shredding jobs.

Not only great pay, great benefits--but HELL you can never get laid off of your federal government job (without a congressional order).--

Like I was saying. One day soon kids will grow up looking forward to a government job.

Good for them.

We need Americas best and brightest to run our Government

We certainly don't have them running it down... in the executive or legislative branches....

 

[rightwinger]

Like I was saying. One day soon kids will grow up looking forward to a government job.

Good for them.

We need Americas best and brightest to run our Government

We certainly don't have them running it down... in the executive or legislative branches....

The better the people we can attract to Government, the better it will run

 

[Harry Dresden]

Good for them.

We need Americas best and brightest to run our Government

We certainly don't have them running it down... in the executive or legislative branches....

The better the people we can attract to Government, the better it will run

then dont bitch if they expect to get paid quality wages and benefits....

 

[rightwinger]

We certainly don't have them running it down... in the executive or legislative branches....

The better the people we can attract to Government, the better it will run

then dont bitch if they expect to get paid quality wages and benefits....

You get what you pay for Harry. I'd rather pay top wages for someone at the top of their class than cut rate wages for someone who never graduated

 

[Harry Dresden]

The better the people we can attract to Government, the better it will run

then dont bitch if they expect to get paid quality wages and benefits....

You get what you pay for Harry. I'd rather pay top wages for someone at the top of their class than cut rate wages for someone who never graduated

well there are just a lot of people who think Govt workers get paid way more than what they should.....i will be the first to admit that many managers are not needed and should be gone.....but i can only talk about the PO....the people who actually "WORK" get what they deserve....