Government Healthcare Disaster in UK

[Neotrotsky]

Nice try...but none of your facts relate to infant mortality or life expectancy

Nice data on the Canadians....what about the other 35 countries that rank better than us?

Based on the biased; flawed; self-reported data from countries like Cuba?

I told you I agree. If Cuba says they have a good system then I believe it

Just like the USSR use to report to the UN

Oh I get your point now....

All thirty six nations that rank higher than us are lying

The communist and socialist ones sure
The non-democratic ones sure
Most of the non-western countries- sure


If you factor in those countries and the faulty weighting system the UN uses
Where does that really put the US now?

But again it is moot.
Do you think the majority of Americans are happy with their health care means anything or are you of the liberal mind set that people are too stupid to know what is good for them?

It must be so; the US has it so terrible, according to the UN, but Americans are too stupid to know it


As some have argued on your side

or like Klein Too Dumb to Thrive


So the majority of Americans don't want Papa Obama care -they must be all stupid bastards!

Maybe it is a North American thing?

After all, Danny Williams the Canadian Provincial Premier (the equivalent of a Governor) came to the U.S. for a heart procedure..

Canada has a single payer system and they scored higher than the US

He must be too stupid to know how good he has it
Funny how that works

 

[Chris]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Canadian

 

[Political Junky]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tommy Douglas's grandson is Kiefer Sutherland who stars in "24" as Jack Bauer. Also a proponent of health care for everyone.

 

[Ame®icano]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should read few books and/or learn the history.

The idea of Canadian healthcare did NOT come from Tommy Douglas, but from Claude Castonguay of Quebec, where the socialized healthcare covering citizens through tax levies actually started. Castonguay’s Quebec success triggered a domino effect across Canada, until eventually his ideas were implemented in whole country.

Interesting thing is that the same man who started idea of nationalized healthcare today disowns the system, and wants private sector involvement back into the healthcare to save it from crisis.

Father of Canadian health care disowns system, wants private sector involvement
Father of Canadian Health Care Wants to Kill His Child!

 

[Political Junky]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should read few books and/or learn the history.

The idea of Canadian healthcare did NOT come from Tommy Douglas, but from Claude Castonguay of Quebec, where the socialized healthcare covering citizens through tax levies actually started. Castonguay’s Quebec success triggered a domino effect across Canada, until eventually his ideas were implemented in whole country.

Interesting thing is that the same man who started idea of nationalized healthcare today disowns the system, and wants private sector involvement back into the healthcare to save it from crisis.

Father of Canadian health care disowns system, wants private sector involvement
Father of Canadian Health Care Wants to Kill His Child!

Nice balanced site, "Crush Liberalism". LOL

 

[Ame®icano]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should read few books and/or learn the history.

The idea of Canadian healthcare did NOT come from Tommy Douglas, but from Claude Castonguay of Quebec, where the socialized healthcare covering citizens through tax levies actually started. Castonguay’s Quebec success triggered a domino effect across Canada, until eventually his ideas were implemented in whole country.

Interesting thing is that the same man who started idea of nationalized healthcare today disowns the system, and wants private sector involvement back into the healthcare to save it from crisis.

Father of Canadian health care disowns system, wants private sector involvement
Father of Canadian Health Care Wants to Kill His Child!

Nice balanced site, "Crush Liberalism". LOL

Why don't you search it yourself, smart ass.

 

[Neotrotsky]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tommy Douglas's grandson is Kiefer Sutherland who stars in "24" as Jack Bauer. Also a proponent of health care for everyone.

Whoa if Kiefer Sutherland wants it, then I am convinced


I still like the "denture" story better

The left should keep using the "denture story" from the health summit by Rep Slaughter (NY) the woman who couldn’t afford her own dentures, and so had to use a second-hand set from her deceased sister.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJByadebXY]YouTube - Teeth[/ame]

Papa Obama care won't cover dental anyway
But it is just as relevant as the the "Sutherland" approach

 

[Meister]

sharing....about an old man and his lovely wife,
The old man ordered one hamburger, one order of French fries and one drink. He unwrapped the plain hamburger and carefully cut it in half.. He placed one half in front of his wife. He then carefully counted out the French fries, dividing them into two piles and neatly placed one pile in front of his wife.

He took a sip of the drink, his wife took a sip and then set the cup down between them. As he began to eat his few bites of hamburger, the people around them kept looking over and whispering. You could tell they were thinking, 'That poor old couple - all they can afford is one meal for the two of them.'

As the man began to eat his fries a young man came to the table. He politely offered to buy another meal for the old couple. The old man said they were just fine - They were used to sharing everything.

The surrounding people noticed the little old lady hadn't eaten a bite. She sat there watching her husband eat and occasionally taking turns sipping the drink.

Again the young man came over and begged them to let him buy another meal for them.. This time the old woman said 'No, thank you, we are used to sharing everything.'

As the old man finished and was wiping his face neatly with the napkin, the young man again came over to the little old lady who had yet to eat a single bite of food and asked 'What is it you're waiting for?'

She answered . .. . . ...









'THE TEETH'.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It goes beyond whether you have a socialist system. It looks at measurable factors like life expectancy and infant mortality....both of which the US has abysmal rankings.

Rw....explain something to me....how does having a tremendous health care system increase life expectancy?.....if you dont take care of yourself,which many Americans dont,i dont give a dam if you have Dr. Leonard McCoy as your physician....if you dont take of yourself there is only so much he or ANYONE else can do for you....

 

[Old Rocks]

It goes beyond whether you have a socialist system. It looks at measurable factors like life expectancy and infant mortality....both of which the US has abysmal rankings.

Rw....explain something to me....how does having a tremendous health care system increase life expectancy?.....if you dont take care of yourself,which many Americans dont,i dont give a dam if you have Dr. Leonard McCoy as your physician....if you dont take of yourself there is only so much he or ANYONE else can do for you....

30 years ago Canada's and the USA's statistics were the same. Then Canada went to a universal health system. Now they are ahead of us in longevity, infant mortality, and way ahead on early childhood mortality.

And none of their citizens goes bankrupt because of medical bills. Versus a few hundred thousand families here in the US.

 

[Harry Dresden]

population has nothing to do with it. It's a per capita thing.

bull fucking shit.....

 

[Meister]

It goes beyond whether you have a socialist system. It looks at measurable factors like life expectancy and infant mortality....both of which the US has abysmal rankings.

Rw....explain something to me....how does having a tremendous health care system increase life expectancy?.....if you dont take care of yourself,which many Americans dont,i dont give a dam if you have Dr. Leonard McCoy as your physician....if you dont take of yourself there is only so much he or ANYONE else can do for you....

30 years ago Canada's and the USA's statistics were the same. Then Canada went to a universal health system. Now they are ahead of us in longevity, infant mortality, and way ahead on early childhood mortality.

And none of their citizens goes bankrupt because of medical bills. Versus a few hundred thousand families here in the US.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rSRJsjiBdY]YouTube - Aerosmith- Same Old Song & Dance[/ame]

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Blue Dogs are on the take from the insurance companies, just as 100% of republicans are.
Therefore, Democrats don't have 59 votes. I hope you already knew that.

EVERY Republican?....you are a stupid individual....your in the same catagory as Rdean...a moron who is so FAR left that you consider liberal Democrats to be Right Wingers...i suppose to your CORRECT way of thinking Democrats just dont take from any Corporations at all...let me ask you a question Junky,because your buddy Rdean refused to answer this when he made basically the same statement as you have....we know the Republicans are owned by some Corporations......is the Democratic Party owned by any Corporations?....take your time....i know you will have to find a way to put a spin on this to make it look like ..."well yes the Dems are...but its not as bad as the Republicans....so its alright if they are"......take your time....

 

[Harry Dresden]

When Canadians were asked in a national poll to name the greatest Canadian in history, they chose the man who developed their healthcare system, Tommy Douglas.


The Greatest Canadian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so who else are they going to name?....William Shatner?.....in a poll on South Park they picked him ....big deal....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Tommy Douglas's grandson is Kiefer Sutherland who stars in "24" as Jack Bauer. Also a proponent of health care for everyone.

oh ...no shit....im going to start watching 24 now....Mas Putos....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Rw....explain something to me....how does having a tremendous health care system increase life expectancy?.....if you dont take care of yourself,which many Americans dont,i dont give a dam if you have Dr. Leonard McCoy as your physician....if you dont take of yourself there is only so much he or ANYONE else can do for you....

30 years ago Canada's and the USA's statistics were the same. Then Canada went to a universal health system. Now they are ahead of us in longevity, infant mortality, and way ahead on early childhood mortality.

And none of their citizens goes bankrupt because of medical bills. Versus a few hundred thousand families here in the US.

cant answer the question Rocks?....well no surprise i have asked you this same question at least twice....and here you are again dancing around it again like Fred Astaire....

 

[Neotrotsky]

It goes beyond whether you have a socialist system. It looks at measurable factors like life expectancy and infant mortality....both of which the US has abysmal rankings.

Rw....explain something to me....how does having a tremendous health care system increase life expectancy?.....if you dont take care of yourself,which many Americans dont,i dont give a dam if you have Dr. Leonard McCoy as your physician....if you dont take of yourself there is only so much he or ANYONE else can do for you....

30 years ago Canada's and the USA's statistics were the same. Then Canada went to a universal health system. Now they are ahead of us in longevity, infant mortality, and way ahead on early childhood mortality.

And none of their citizens goes bankrupt because of medical bills. Versus a few hundred thousand families here in the US.

Speaking of same old story.........

No Canadians?- Survey research commissioned by the Canadian government found
that that despite having a government-run health system, medical reasons (including uninsured expenses), were cited as the primary cause of bankruptcy by approximately 15 percent of bankrupt Canadian seniors (55 years of age and older).

See:
The Medical Bankruptcy Myth

Highly Questionable Medical Bankruptcy Figures from Fraser Institute

The left is really running out of new fake stories to use.

Maybe the "denture" story is all they have left