Gov Walker's WS Set To Have Budget SURPLUS 2011, 2012 & 2013

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    No schools were closed (in fact more schools were opened), no teachers were laid off (in fact more teachers were hired), no dollars were snatched from the WS schools (in fact more dollars went to them), yet Gov Walker's plan turned a $3.6 billion deficit into a surplus this year, next year and in 2013!

    All I have to say is WAY TO FUCKING GO WALKER!!! You stopped a crisis and actually improved Wisconsin schools!

     
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    But, but, but...

    You must be wrong! You can't be right! The Union said that all education, all schools, all good will, all justice and all civilization would end if Walker got his way.

    Was there a fundamental shift in reality between the time that the union/mob/thugs occupied the Wisconsin State Capital and the accounting of the surpluses?

    Makes you wonder a little if there are more schools and more teachers and presumably better education if the education unions will support this program or go back to the one that was going to force lay offs, school closings and draconian cuts of every nature.

    What say you, Wisconsin teachers? Are you in favor of actual, real improvements in education or just supporting your union?
     
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    Nothing on the down-low, no-bid patronage by Walker to sell off public properties?

    I guess "small government" is just a fancy term for same old corruption
     
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    From the article you linked which is from February 2011 and should have either been proven or falsified by now:

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    Note that there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that such a conspiracy in under way. This is just a theory being circulated &#8211; and, at this point, nothing more. But it is, at the least, a theory that we will eventually be able to substantiate or finally dismiss depending on what happens to the state&#8217;s public utilities.

    <snip>

    Which part of "absolutely no proof whatsoever" evaded your laser like truth detector?

    Assuming, however, for the sake of your illusion that it is true and it saves the good citizens of Wisconsin enough to balance their budget rather than following the rules that put their budget into the dumper, what is the harm that you are predicting?

    By the way, graft is usually used to make a politician rich, not to balance the budget of the state which he serves.

    graft2 &#8194; &#8194;/græft, gr&#593;ft/ Show Spelled[graft, grahft] Show IPA
    noun
    1. the acquisition of money, gain, or advantage by dishonest, unfair, or illegal means, especially through the abuse of one's position or influence in politics, business, etc.
    2. a particular instance, method, or means of thus acquiring gain or advantage.
    3. the gain or advantage acquired.


    What you suggest is that Walker is stealing the money and then contributing it to balance the budget. Man! This guy's got to be an idiot. He can't even steal right!

    Maybe if if he took some lessons from the union/mob/thugs... They seem to have a pretty solid handle on the whole graft process.
     
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    I haven't the time or expertise to dig too deeply into Wisconsin's budget, so I could be wrong, but...

    Based on legis.wisconsin.org, the source for the article you cite, the biennial allocations for overall education were $12.9B (44.4% of total budget) in 2011-2013 and $13.6B (49.2% of total). Even failing to account for either inflation or the increase in Wisconsin's population, the current biennial budget reduces both the overall allocation for education and the percentage of the budget dedicated to education.This change of $700M dwarfs the biennial projected surplus of $17.8M. The current budget also skews more heavily to chartered schools than in the past.

    Accepting that Walker's budget *does* have a surplus but *doesn't* spend as much on schools/education as past years, I find it unsurprising. I don't think anyone suggested that the state paying teachers less wouldn't reduce the state's deficit in the short term. If anything, running a surplus slightly undermines Walker's claim that &#8220;The bottom line is we are trying to balance our budget and there really is no room to negotiate on that because we&#8217;re broke.&#8221; It's also worth noting that unions voluntarily agreed to slash their own pay and benefits-- it was the destruction of collective bargaining rights to which they objected.
     
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    Walker's reforms are working exactly as they should. Unions spent $40 million to try and take over the legislature because they knew these reforms would work and soon spread to other states - effectively destroying them. Even FDR recognized that public sector unions are a bad deal for taxpayers. Great job by Walker - he stuck to his principals.

    Liberalism is a bubble, it's bursting....
     
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    That is hilarious. Can't wait for the libs to come in here and try to tear this down...

    Walker was the most evil guy on earth, remember....
     
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