Gov. Palin Noosed-OK, Sen. Obama Noosed-Not OK

[Silence]

I think it's bullshit! this guy shouldn't be allowed to display this shit no matter WHO it is!

Free speech my ass! It's offensive and could, IMO, be viewed as a threat, however veiled it might be.

 

[user_name_guest]

What if a black man put up a display of Obama being hung by a noose. Is that equally offensive as a white man saying the n-word?

 

[doeton]

when was the last time a liberal beat the shit out of a republican (I mean besides in a delusional mccrusty fantasy dream) and then wrapped a chain around their body and dragged them behind a truck until their body parts feel off?

when's the last time a racists asshole did this to a black person?

is there really a double standard?

is the west hollywood liberal actually calling for palin to be hung? or was it actually part of a festive halloween decoration?

whilst a backwoods white rascist who hangs an obama effigy, are they really just decorating their mobile home lot or are expressing their desire to see obama hung?

i think the answer to motivation and the intent to inspire violence is clearly different in the two cases.

that being said, i don't think either should be prohibited.

but they clearly different.

 

[Silence]

festive halloween decorations? I don't think so.

IMO people shouldn't be allowed to "mock" hang our political candidates regardless of whether their is racial overtones or not.

Clearly the sentiment WOULD be taken differently if it were Obama but it's still wrong.

Palin is a dumbass don't get me wrong but she's still a human being deserving of basic respect and decency.

 

[user_name_guest]

Anyone going to dress up like Robert Downy Jr. character from Tropic Thunder (color your skin black)? Would it be offensive if a white man color himself black. Imagine if you get a group of friends to follow suit, can you call each other n-word without being offensive or racist?

 

[WillowTree]

when was the last time a liberal beat the shit out of a republican (I mean besides in a delusional mccrusty fantasy dream) and then wrapped a chain around their body and dragged them behind a truck until their body parts feel off?

when's the last time a racists asshole did this to a black person?

is there really a double standard?

is the west hollywood liberal actually calling for palin to be hung? or was it actually part of a festive halloween decoration?

whilst a backwoods white rascist who hangs an obama effigy, are they really just decorating their mobile home lot or are expressing their desire to see obama hung?

i think the answer to motivation and the intent to inspire violence is clearly different in the two cases.

that being said, i don't think either should be prohibited.

but they clearly different.

listen dood, I know you would prefer not to talk about it and to turn a blind eye to it but there is plenty of black on white crime. That road runs both ways buddy.

 

[WillowTree]

festive halloween decorations? I don't think so.

IMO people shouldn't be allowed to "mock" hang our political candidates regardless of whether their is racial overtones or not.

Clearly the sentiment WOULD be taken differently if it were Obama but it's still wrong.

Palin is a dumbass don't get me wrong but she's still a human being deserving of basic respect and decency.

good girl.

 

[WhiteLion]

That old ploy.......or shock that a Christian would call another "Stupid" is one worn-out defense.

I've done and said stupid things in my life and had to own-up to it..............I'm will to call the kettle black........are you?

If you perceive that Christians go around with their hands folded in a prayer position or have a King James under their arm at all times, then you bought into a typical stereotype.

Christians get angry, they cry, they screw up, the enjoy good times, go to movies, like to drive cars, cringe when paying taxes..............and even bleed real blood when pricked.

Toleration and love are not synonymous. Christian love is looking past the sin or the person's sin, and loving them as Christ loves them. That isn't a definition of tolerating the sin, it's looking past it and seeing a living soul in need of salvation. God hates sin, and so do Christians, but we as Christians also realize that we-too are fallible, and sin as we belong to the human family. We have no right to judge without being judged ourselves.

There is nothing sinful or unChristian in all it as we see it. Some will scream..........."Judgementalism!", but usually that's a defense to deflect self-guilt. It's interesting how we as human beings react to God's Word. We detest it, we swear at it, yet, Why? Its because the Word of God illuminates the "sinnner" or "sinfulness" in us. It's like a big old search light shining and revealing our true motives and agenda of life when we read the bible.

We have the choice to flee from it, repudiate it, or humbly accept it as our true spiritual state. Pretty simple.

Christ said that our battle is spiritual in nature. It's not with physical swords, guns and clubs........It's the incredible, convicting power of the words contained in the bible that bring men to their knees, or cause them to rebell even more. Again pretty simple.

One can read the bible through and through and claim intellectual prowess with the scriptures, yet lack spiritual discernment of what it really was meant to convey.

Pharisees and Sadducees were perfect examples of head theology, but a total lack of heart theology.

Eightball your on a roll today lol And all that you say is true.. Take the patriarchs of the Old Testament and some in the New Testament they all had flaws and hangups before serving GOD(Jesus the Christ). Take Moses for example he was a murderer before GOD called him to deliever the Isrealites out of Egypt. King David had problems most men face today with women lol but GOd still used him and these are just a few examples of the OT. Take a look at Peter, lol Peter was a real REDNECK, he was a fighter and a lier but after the cock crew 3 times he realized that Jesus wasnt playing games and Jesus the Christ was able to use Peter as well. Peter became the ROCK, Jesus said upon this ROCK i build my church... Paul before he was Saul was a persecutor of Christians about as bad as Nero although nobody but Hitler could beat Nero(not yet). Saul held the coat of Stephen as they stoned him to death, afterward on the road to Damascus Jesus Blinded Saul and those that were with him after his recovery GOd used Paul now to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles(any race thats not Jewish).Paul was the grafter...WOW i feel like preaching i tell ya lol(i know,,, im one of them JESUS FREAKS)... You got something GOD can use??? if GOD can use these men he can use the most Vile Christain hater on the planet earth, never underestimate GOD for HIS ways are not ours.......GOD sees the heart motive not the skin color....

John Foxe, 1516-1587, himself noted that, "The blood of the martyrs has become the seedbed of the Church." (lol like throwing gasoline on fire)
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

 

[Eightball]

Eightball your on a roll today lol And all that you say is true.. Take the patriarchs of the Old Testament and some in the New Testament they all had flaws and hangups before serving GOD(Jesus the Christ). Take Moses for example he was a murderer before GOD called him to deliever the Isrealites out of Egypt. King David had problems most men face today with women lol but GOd still used him and these are just a few examples of the OT. Take a look at Peter, lol Peter was a real REDNECK, he was a fighter and a lier but after the cock crew 3 times he realized that Jesus wasnt playing games and Jesus the Christ was able to use Peter as well. Peter became the ROCK, Jesus said upon this ROCK i build my church... Paul before he was Saul was a persecutor of Christians about as bad as Nero although nobody but Hitler could beat Nero(not yet). Saul held the coat of Stephen as they stoned him to death, afterward on the road to Damascus Jesus Blinded Saul and those that were with him after his recovery GOd used Paul now to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles(any race thats not Jewish).Paul was the grafter...WOW i feel like preaching i tell ya lol... You got something GOD can use??? if GOD can use these men he can use the most Vile Christain hater on the planet earth, never underestimate GOD for HIS ways are not ours.......GOD sees the heart motive not the skin color....

John Foxe, 1516-1587, himself noted that, "The blood of the martyrs has become the seedbed of the Church."
1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Amen Bro!

 

[doeton]

listen dood, I know you would prefer not to talk about it and to turn a blind eye to it but there is plenty of black on white crime. That road runs both ways buddy.

actually i talk about it all the time and say nasty words about em.

 

[doeton]

again people.

try to remember some history...

have gays historically sanctioned killing white soccer moms?

true white soccer moms have historically suggested that the fires of hell is where gays deserve to go...but those discussions took place in holy churches...

 

[doeton]

Anyone going to dress up like Robert Downy Jr. character from Tropic Thunder (color your skin black)? Would it be offensive if a white man color himself black. Imagine if you get a group of friends to follow suit, can you call each other n-word without being offensive or racist?

can you answer that yourself?

are you familiar with something called history?

 

[Odd1_Out]

Let's stop making different rules for different people. Why would hanging an effigy of Senator Obama be considered a "hate" crime, but stringing Gov. Palin outside a house is not?

Because black men used to be lynched for talking to white women, not the other way around. Also, the one with the picture of Obama on it had a KKK hood placed over its head.

KKK hood + effigy of black presidential candidate + hanging from a tree = hate crime.

Both effigies are unacceptable regardless of anything else.

 

[Eightball]

again people.

try to remember some history...

have gays historically sanctioned killing white soccer moms?

true white soccer moms have historically suggested that the fires of hell is where gays deserve to go...but those discussions took place in holy churches...

Why don't you just paint a big old white Star of David on all soccer moms........as they are the enemy of "toleration"; that very misused "T" word that so many fence walkers hide behind.

They don't hurt me, so let them be.

Just wait till your Kindergartner comes home and wants you to explain to them how marriage is for two men, two women.

Then explain to your kindergartner about propagation of the species via same sex marriage, and how this definition of marriage was historically intended/believed not only in Judeau Christian cultures but most all other cultures and religions of the world. Not!

As our country drifts further and further from our Judeau Christian roots, we drift or spiral further and further towards the abyss of humanistic determination.

Humanistic determination further degenerates into animalistic, and instinctual/biological behavior that are unbridled, unchecked, promoted, and propagated.

Humanism/intellect becomes the altar of praise and worship, ethics go to the dust bin of antequated, dead ends, and the world is prepped for the messiah of humanism, and self determination minus wisdom from on-high. Otherwise known as the Antichrist.

This person/leader will be charismatic, smooth talking, a friend of all cultures, religions, creeds, but after 3 1/2 years he will reveal his true agenda, and those that still hold to faith in the Messiah that came thousands of years before, will be considered the enemies of the world.

Even before the A.C. shows, the spirit of him will start to consume myriads of people...........Those people who worship intellect and human achievement above humble adoration of their Creator will most likely be the first to be duped, as the spirit of the A.C. will mesmorize them, with fanciful words, and a smooth sharp tongue from his surrogates. He will not be questioned, as his charisma will overshadow his obvious weaknesses, and dangerous tendencies. He will receive a pass from the medias of the world. Omans, Bishops, dictators, presidents, prime ministers will beckon to his every whim and desire........

It's happening now..........It's accellerating at incredible speed........I guess Daniel, Paul, Jesus, and many more weren't nut jobs after all.

People, wake up. Even Jeremiah the prophet called out to his people the Israelies hundreds of years before the advent of Christ. Israel fell into such corruption of morals, and their very country lost it pearly image on a hill top, and it's people were scattered throughout the world.

Why? Cause they became enamored with "things" and drifted away from their faith in the God that had freed them from bondage in Egypt and given them a promised land of milk and honey. They prostituted themselves and ran after other gods, and ignored the call of prophets who God raised up to call them back to their first love, Yahweh, or God Almight Himself.

As a result of their drifting into national sin, alien nations encroached on their lands, and they were attacked from all sides, and finally the country was dissolved and most inhabitants scattered or taken into bondage/slavery.

The U.S.A. is not strong just because we are innovative people from many cultures. It is strong, because it's very foundations of government were established by Godly men and women who fleed the tyranny of countries that abhored the True God of the bible. God used both Christian and non-Christian Americans in establishing a government where our elected leaders are, our, servants, and we the people dictate to them, via the voting booth, our desires.

Now, we are on the verge of being dictated-to by our elected officials. We are now their servants, and they are our "Sugar Daddys". They say "jump", we must "jump".

They say we are too wealthy, we comply, and spread the wealth. They say we're too blessed, we guiltily comply and "patriotically" pay more taxes.

Folks, this is not the time to argue, but the time to look back to your country's early foundations and principles, and make some big, brave decisions! Does this country need to make a big old painful U-turn, and return to ethics and morals as a result of returning to a humble admiration and faith in our Creator, or do we take the old ever-downward spiral that leads to the abyss of moral relativity, which is an amoral morass?

Is life big screen TV's, Biggest baddest car on the street, biggest house in the neighborhood, or do we think about where we started and where we've come or arrived-too. Is this what life's supposed to be about? Things and things, and kudo's, and atta-boys, and atta-girls, or is life more than that?

 

[WhiteLion]

Because black men used to be lynched for talking to white women, not the other way around. Also, the one with the picture of Obama on it had a KKK hood placed over its head.

KKK hood + effigy of black presidential candidate + hanging from a tree = hate crime.

Both effigies are unacceptable regardless of anything else.

I agree but because of all the fuss of so called "Hate Crimes" we now have what's refered to as Reversed Hate Crimes where does it all end...whos noosing who??? should be the question.......
Reverse Hate Crime in South Carolina – One Year After
A 'Racialist' Massacre?
Lotts of Distractions

 

[Shogun]

These "christian" responses remind me why christianity is an outmoded dogma. I am so glad i'm not one of you. for real.

 

[WhiteLion]

Why don't you just paint a big old white Star of David on all soccer moms........as they are the enemy of "toleration"; that very misused "T" word that so many fence walkers hide behind.

They don't hurt me, so let them be.

Just wait till your Kindergartner comes home and wants you to explain to them how marriage is for two men, two women.

Then explain to your kindergartner about propagation of the species via same sex marriage, and how this definition of marriage was historically intended/believed not only in Judeau Christian cultures but most all other cultures and religions of the world. Not!

As our country drifts further and further from our Judeau Christian roots, we drift or spiral further and further towards the abyss of humanistic determination.

Humanistic determination further degenerates into animalistic, and instinctual/biological behavior that are unbridled, unchecked, promoted, and propagated.

Humanism/intellect becomes the altar of praise and worship, ethics go to the dust bin of antequated, dead ends, and the world is prepped for the messiah of humanism, and self determination minus wisdom from on-high. Otherwise known as the Antichrist.

This person/leader will be charismatic, smooth talking, a friend of all cultures, religions, creeds, but after 3 1/2 years he will reveal his true agenda, and those that still hold to faith in the Messiah that came thousands of years before, will be considered the enemies of the world.

Even before the A.C. shows, the spirit of him will start to consume myriads of people...........Those people who worship intellect and human achievement above humble adoration of their Creator will most likely be the first to be duped, as the spirit of the A.C. will mesmorize them, with fanciful words, and a smooth sharp tongue from his surrogates. He will not be questioned, as his charisma will overshadow his obvious weaknesses, and dangerous tendencies. He will receive a pass from the medias of the world. Omans, Bishops, dictators, presidents, prime ministers will beckon to his every whim and desire........

It's happening now..........It's accellerating at incredible speed........I guess Daniel, Paul, Jesus, and many more weren't nut jobs after all.

People, wake up. Even Jeremiah the prophet called out to his people the Israelies hundreds of years before the advent of Christ. Israel fell into such corruption of morals, and their very country lost it pearly image on a hill top, and it's people were scattered throughout the world.

Why? Cause they became enamored with "things" and drifted away from their faith in the God that had freed them from bondage in Egypt and given them a promised land of milk and honey. They prostituted themselves and ran after other gods, and ignored the call of prophets who God raised up to call them back to their first love, Yahweh, or God Almight Himself.

As a result of their drifting into national sin, alien nations encroached on their lands, and they were attacked from all sides, and finally the country was dissolved and most inhabitants scattered or taken into bondage/slavery.

The U.S.A. is not strong just because we are innovative people from many cultures. It is strong, because it's very foundations of government were established by Godly men and women who fleed the tyranny of countries that abhored the True God of the bible. God used both Christian and non-Christian Americans in establishing a government where our elected leaders are, our, servants, and we the people dictate to them, via the voting booth, our desires.

Now, we are on the verge of being dictated-to by our elected officials. We are now their servants, and they are our "Sugar Daddys". They say "jump", we must "jump".

They say we are too wealthy, we comply, and spread the wealth. They say we're too blessed, we guiltily comply and "patriotically" pay more taxes.

Folks, this is not the time to argue, but the time to look back to your country's early foundations and principles, and make some big, brave decisions! Does this country need to make a big old painful U-turn, and return to ethics and morals as a result of returning to a humble admiration and faith in our Creator, or do we take the old ever-downward spiral that leads to the abyss of moral relativity, which is an amoral morass?

Is life big screen TV's, Biggest baddest car on the street, biggest house in the neighborhood, or do we think about where we started and where we've come or arrived-too. Is this what life's supposed to be about? Things and things, and kudo's, and atta-boys, and atta-girls, or is life more than that?

Well said again eightball and i personally believe that Bill Clinton was the forerunner of Obama-nation.. People are totally mesmerized by this Obama character to the point of desperation(dont get me wrong i dont much care for McCain either)... I read one time in one of the old American civil history books that said ther'd come a time in the future of the world that people will be so desperate for a leader they would vote anyone in office set aside even their own conscious...This's dangerous even if every single neg article about Obama was assumed false? enough of them ought to say theres to much smoke somebody go see if its on fire or if theres anything to it. But no its like a mad onslaught of fire ants over taking a live pack of aardvarks without regard of the poisonous consequenses...(aardvarks can suck down a mound of nearly a 50000 fire ants or termites in less time than a monday morning brunch session)gulp! People better wakeup and snap out of this delusion time's almost gone.. regrets come to late when the social damage is done...

 

[Chris]

Regrets come to late when the social damage is done?

Sounds like a description of the last eight years....

 

[xsited1]

The guilt-filled liberals will say that blacks used to be lynched so therefore you cannot do this to Obama. They also say that you can't compare Obama to Curious George because blacks used to be compared to monkeys. This is what's known as a double-standard and only prolongs racism. It's really reverse racism, which liberals support by default. And giving someone a job based on the color of their skin would be unheard of unless, of course, you're talking about a black person. Again, this is racism, but it's also part of the Democratic Party Platform. So again, liberals and Democrats are racists by default. If someone ever asks you for an example of racism, look no further than the Democratic Party.

 

[Odd1_Out]

If someone ever asks you for an example of racism, look no further than the Democratic Party.

If we're talking about the Democratic party in 1860.