Gov. Palin Noosed-OK, Sen. Obama Noosed-Not OK

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by Eightball, Oct 29, 2008.

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    There was quite a discussion last night on the news about the house in Westwood/Hollywood, Calif. that along with it's Halloween decorations has a manequin dressed up to look like Gov. Palin being hanged by the neck. Many people complained to the city/authorities about it, but basically it will stay as it is protected under free-speech, and is not defined as "hate speech" according to the city attorney's office.

    Side Note: Sen. McCain's likeness is portrayed at this residence in a configuration that is supposed to be "burning in hell"; also protected by "free speech" according to the same people.
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    Now, lets change this scenario folks: Lets have a Hollywood/Westwood home with Barack Obama's likeness hanging by the neck in a noose, and lets have Sen. Biden's likeness being fried in hellish fire.

    Do you think that local authorities would react to this scenario the same way. You and I know that the NAACP, the Democratic party would cry foul, and also cry out that this is rascist to the core, and I bet you'd see those efigy's come down so fast it would make your head spin.
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    During the Rodney King riots, a White caucasion truck driver ended up in the wrong place, and was dragged out of his semi-truck rig and nearly beaten to death by African Americans. By the grace of God, some empathetic African Americans also saved his life.

    Did the trucker's beating spawn a White American rampage throughout America? NO!
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    Folks the balance scales are not even. White America lives under the 100+ year reign of slavery to people of Negroid or African decent who were mercilessly brought here and mercilessly treated.

    Sadly, we White Americans are supposed to never forget this, and never put it in the past, and get on with life, but must and our always reminded of it as though it will return in our society. One party is constantly called the homophobes, rascists, bigots, etc.....While the other party is called the empathetic, feeling your pain, party.

    When will it end folks. It is now "ok" to slander, mistreat, malign, and basically hate, those who believe in fairness for all, 150 years after the Emancipation Proclamation. Instead, there still lies and permeates in our society this White, or caucasion need for constant penance. It is mainly perpetuated by a certain political party as a means of holding or keeping a major voting constituency within their ranks. Of course their are some hopeful shining lights of balanced, and objective thinking such as Thomas Sowell, noted African American writer/professor, who are gradually gaining respect in the African American community. Some day, hopefully Sowell won't be categorized as an "Uncle Tom" but will reflect a new, significant, and rising group of African American citizens that are tired of being used as "victims" to further the agenda of a certain party.

    There will always be biggotry, rascism, in our country as well as other countries. It's the nature of humanity to distinguish themselves religiously, racially, culturally, language, skin color, etc.......The big difference in our country, is that it can't take root and grow without hitting squarely in the headlights of our U.S. Constitution. Men are all endowed by their Creator, and because of that, no man can or has the right of supremacy over another based on his or her humanity.

    Where supremacy prevails is when one race or cultural block succeeds at taming or conquering their environment, and bettering their lives, and economic positions. This is again, humanity.

    Now with that in mind.........Why, oh Why..........must any one's effigy hang by a noose. It is downright disgusting, mean spirited, and serves no purpose, unless a negative purpose can be included.

    Why, oh why, is it ok for Gov. Sarah Palin, and Sen, John McCain's effigys to be used in this way, and Sen Barak Obama's would be considered totally objectionable under "hate" and "racist/biggotry" laws?

    Again, it is in my humble opinion, National white/caucasion guilt, infused into most of us by both the white, black race, media, and constant reminders of past history. When is it the time when we will not have to play the part of Reverend Dimsdale from the "Scarlet Letter" and close up ourselves in a closet and whip are white caucasion bodies in penance for the deeds of many generations of the past? It's as though the American white citizen must where a scarlet letter "S" of slavery or slave master, around their necks for perpetuity. Something is wrong here? :)
     
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    I was just about to post this when I saw your thread.

    This is the typical, hypocritical bullshit libbies are notorious for. Where's Jackson and Sharpton? Why are they not screaming, ranting and raving? If it was Comrade Hussein there would be bus-loads of them and their clone followers picketing and screaming racism.

    Hypocritical fucktards.
     
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    clearly, you read the last thread where this comparison was made...


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    Yes, when will blacks stand up and refuse to be victims of "slavery?" Sadly, if you go to any Black Studies or African American Studies Departments in our universites, they continue to espouse this thinking. John McWhorter, (African American scholar and writer) believes that the issue of slavery must be firmly left in the past if African Americans want to move ahead.

    Let's stop making different rules for different people. Why would hanging an effigy of Senator Obama be considered a "hate" crime, but stringing Gov. Palin outside a house is not?
     
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    Yes, you are beating a dead horse.

    But here was my response last time


    I can see both sides of the argument and while I find it extremely distasteful, they do have the right to hang Palin in effigy. We are all well and good with hate in this country as long as it’s at an individual level. I don’t think the intent of hanging an effigy of Palin is racially motivated or sexually motivated (although it could be).

    The reason that someone may be subject to hate speech issues by hanging Obama is that there is a long history of lynching blacks in America. If someone hated Obama and had the poor taste to represent his death in a Halloween display, might I suggest the guillotine, it would minimize the race hate element but still show your loathing for the candidate.

    Just like Hanging Palin may be o.k. while depicting a sexual assault against her would not.
     
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    Same reason it's ok to call Bush "chimp" but not Obama.
     
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    Probably because of the racial overtures. I'm sure someone could think up something to do with a Palin doll that would be over the top sexist...but wouldn't be if done to a Obama doll.
     
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    And btw, Eightball, go ahead and hang an Obama doll in your front yard...as far as I know, it's legal.

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    Keep in mind the other day Palin said picking on her clothing $150K was sexist.

    But it wasn't sexist to make fun of John Edwards expensive haircut or McCain's $500 mockasins?
     
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    She really said it was sexist? Why?
     

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