Got Rid of Nasty-Ass "Win 7 Internet Security 2012" Virus

[PeteEU]

Where are you finding this incorrect information? In Microsoft propaganda?

LOL no experience!

The nr. 1 thing that spreads viruses/malware today is not the OS, but the person behind the keyboard and mouse. Apple products have gone over the threshold need for makers of malware and viruses to give a damn, and Apple users are totally unprotected and unaware of the dangers because of this idiotic Apple mantra of "Apple is safe" crap.

You didn't source your claim. You're speculating/talking out your ass.
We have been using a Mac at my business for desktop publishing for close to four years now. Not one issue.
My son has been using a Macbook Pro at college (two years now), no issues.
I'll go with what works best for me. You go with what's best for you. Enjoy your multiple virus', blue screens, lockings, and all the other woes association with MS Windows.

I have been using Windows 7 for the same amount of time and no issues.... Before that I used Windows XP and also have very few problems during the 7 years of its life.

And no I am not speculating or talking out of my ass.. Most Windows users never experience a virus or malware, because they are told from the start to protect themselves. And when they do experience something it is 99% of the time their own damn fault for clicking and saying yes to things they should not be clicking and saying yes too.

Now Mac users have grown up with the false illusion they were immune to viruses and malware and hence are not aware about the many methods that the hackers uses to trick you. On top of that most dont have software to protect them. Now that there are more and more users of Mac, the hackers are finally paying attention to the brand and are targeting as we have seen over and over the last few years.

Feel free to stick your head in the ground but the threat is very real regardless what OS you use.. nothing is secure and the biggest threat to your pc is yourself.

 

[PeteEU]

I know you like Windows...but you do know that on
Linux you can change the Kernel any time you want?

Actually, I almost pointed that out.

Linux is pretty open and I am sure that it will be the replacement for XP in industrial applications.

It has not replaced it during the last decade, what makes you think it will do it now?

I think it's a lot more difficult to deal with, but it can and will do the job.

LOL yes it is much more difficult to deal with.. plus hella expensive for companies to migrate too.... no not the "free price" of the software, but the retraining of people.. takes time and productivity.... which means money.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It has not replaced it during the last decade, what makes you think it will do it now?

XP is EOL.

Besides, I'm already seeing Linux creep in on newer equipment.

LOL yes it is much more difficult to deal with.. plus hella expensive for companies to migrate too.... no not the "free price" of the software, but the retraining of people.. takes time and productivity.... which means money.

I'm talking about embedded controllers. Behind the keyboard of most copiers, fax machines, CNC mills, lathes, presses and other intelligent industrial machines lurks Windows XP.

BUT Microsoft no longer sells XP, so new equipment cannot legally embed it. The place to turn is Linux. The last Mori Seiki mill we brought in has Linux as the base OS.

As for Linux on the desk top, there is a place for that as well. Linux is much lighter than Windows. I can put a cheap Pentium 4 machine on a desk, running Ubuntu with a Citrix client and host SAP on a Xen 5 desktop and the user runs with no flaws. You can host VM's on an ESX server and RDP from a Linux client as well. Granted, RDP sucks compared to Xen, but the concept is the same, a very light client hosting a remote session, ultra cheap, ultra secure.

I'm using a lot of Linux, the end user doesn't know the difference. The apps are running on Windows, Microsoft Office and SAP look the same to the user, so they never know the difference.

Don't get me wrong, I love Windows 7, it is by far the most powerful and comprehensive desktop OS that has been made. But you've got to feed it, loads of RAM and CPU cycles are needed. Many times I just need someone to be able to move goods to inventory or work on a spreadsheet, for that Linux and Xen are a low cost and effective solution.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

It has not replaced it during the last decade, what makes you think it will do it now?

XP is EOL.

Besides, I'm already seeing Linux creep in on newer equipment.

LOL yes it is much more difficult to deal with.. plus hella expensive for companies to migrate too.... no not the "free price" of the software, but the retraining of people.. takes time and productivity.... which means money.

I'm talking about embedded controllers. Behind the keyboard of most copiers, fax machines, CNC mills, lathes, presses and other intelligent industrial machines lurks Windows XP.

BUT Microsoft no longer sells XP, so new equipment cannot legally embed it. The place to turn is Linux. The last Mori Seiki mill we brought in has Linux as the base OS.

As for Linux on the desk top, there is a place for that as well. Linux is much lighter than Windows. I can put a cheap Pentium 4 machine on a desk, running Ubuntu with a Citrix client and host SAP on a Xen 5 desktop and the user runs with no flaws. You can host VM's on an ESX server and RDP from a Linux client as well. Granted, RDP sucks compared to Xen, but the concept is the same, a very light client hosting a remote session, ultra cheap, ultra secure.

I'm using a lot of Linux, the end user doesn't know the difference. The apps are running on Windows, Microsoft Office and SAP look the same to the user, so they never know the difference.

Don't get me wrong, I love Windows 7, it is by far the most powerful and comprehensive desktop OS that has been made. But you've got to feed it, loads of RAM and CPU cycles are needed. Many times I just need someone to be able to move goods to inventory or work on a spreadsheet, for that Linux and Xen are a low cost and effective solution.

Careful - you are going to upset Winboy

 

[Sallow]

Only took two days but my God - this thing was pesky.

Thank God for Bleepingcomputer.com

Those guys have never let me down.

I bought my sons two MAC laptops for Christmas - I need to go to a MAC desktop at home - this Microsoft virus crap is for the birds.

And no. I don't surf porn.

I got them several times on my PC. It was defeating 2 anti-virus programs. Fixing the registry by hand was a bitch. I upgraded to Window 7 and got McAfee total protection. So far so good. It even alerts you when an unknown ip is trying to install something.

 

[Sallow]

It has not replaced it during the last decade, what makes you think it will do it now?

XP is EOL.

Besides, I'm already seeing Linux creep in on newer equipment.

LOL yes it is much more difficult to deal with.. plus hella expensive for companies to migrate too.... no not the "free price" of the software, but the retraining of people.. takes time and productivity.... which means money.

I'm talking about embedded controllers. Behind the keyboard of most copiers, fax machines, CNC mills, lathes, presses and other intelligent industrial machines lurks Windows XP.

BUT Microsoft no longer sells XP, so new equipment cannot legally embed it. The place to turn is Linux. The last Mori Seiki mill we brought in has Linux as the base OS.

As for Linux on the desk top, there is a place for that as well. Linux is much lighter than Windows. I can put a cheap Pentium 4 machine on a desk, running Ubuntu with a Citrix client and host SAP on a Xen 5 desktop and the user runs with no flaws. You can host VM's on an ESX server and RDP from a Linux client as well. Granted, RDP sucks compared to Xen, but the concept is the same, a very light client hosting a remote session, ultra cheap, ultra secure.

I'm using a lot of Linux, the end user doesn't know the difference. The apps are running on Windows, Microsoft Office and SAP look the same to the user, so they never know the difference.

Don't get me wrong, I love Windows 7, it is by far the most powerful and comprehensive desktop OS that has been made. But you've got to feed it, loads of RAM and CPU cycles are needed. Many times I just need someone to be able to move goods to inventory or work on a spreadsheet, for that Linux and Xen are a low cost and effective solution.

Coming off of HPUX and getting use to the sportier LINUX was a bit of a slog..but now I really do like it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Coming off of HPUX and getting use to the sportier LINUX was a bit of a slog..but now I really do like it.

We had tru64 servers, which were ahead of their time...but needed polishing.
After HP purchased Compaq and incorporated tru64 into HPUX...HPUX is now one of the best unix's iMHO.

Linux just gives you more flexibility and enormous resources available all over the net.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Coming off of HPUX and getting use to the sportier LINUX was a bit of a slog..but now I really do like it.

Which distro are you using?

I really lean toward Kubuntu - which is Ubuntu with the KDE interface. I like KDE better than Gnome, just a personal thing.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Coming off of HPUX and getting use to the sportier LINUX was a bit of a slog..but now I really do like it.

Which distro are you using?

I really lean toward Kubuntu - which is Ubuntu with the KDE interface. I like KDE better than Gnome, just a personal thing.

If he is using it for a server - I would guess Redhat or SuSe?

 

[Uncensored2008]

If he is using it for a server - I would guess Redhat or SuSe?

I've got Redhat for my web server. A really old install, 2002 or so.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

If he is using it for a server - I would guess Redhat or SuSe?

I've got Redhat for my web server. A really old install, 2002 or so.

RH 7?
Redhat 7 was the bomb...really started to support a lot of hardware for the time.

 

[Uncensored2008]

RH 7?
Redhat 7 was the bomb...really started to support a lot of hardware for the time.

Redhat Enterprise Linux 6.2 Using Apache and MySQL.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

RH 7?
Redhat 7 was the bomb...really started to support a lot of hardware for the time.

Redhat Enterprise Linux 6.2 Using Apache and MySQL.

I believe 6.2 was the first one that could run on a Dell PC.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I believe 6.2 was the first one that could run on a Dell PC.

Sounds about right.

It's on an HP Netserver that has been on 24/7 for over a decade. I hot swapped a power supply once, but other than that it just keeps chugging along. The thing is built like a tank.

 

[Dude111]

Thank God for Bleepingcomputer.com

Those guys have never let me down.

Yes BC is an excellent site indeed

I am glad you got things taken care of....... (Im sorry it took 2 days)

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yes BC is an excellent site indeed

I am glad you got things taken care of....... (Im sorry it took 2 days)

You're assuming that his story is true, and not just Mac fan boi bullshit.

I run a small IT group, about 250 desktop/laptop computers. About half of these are now on Windows 7. Number of viruses encountered under Windows 7 is zero, number of malware attacks is zero. My users do bad things, when they can. I filter what I can, obviously .xxx domains, plus I subscribe to blacklists to block known porn and Warez sites. Still, third shift people are creative in finding ways to go where they shouldn't. Even with that, in two years I have yet to see a Vista or Windows 7 machine infected with anything. I have a great firewall, a Palo Alto 500, that helps to contain zombies, but it can't stop viruses. For client protection, I just use MS Security Essentials. Not one infection. The other half of the machines are XP, they get infected weekly. One of my staff spends about half of his time clearing malware from XP machines. I have a way around that now, though. Put Ubuntu on the client and use published apps through Citrix Xenapp.

So sorry if I'm skeptical when a Mac fanatic claims to have been infected on a Windows 7 machine. Personally I question if he would know how to find the start pearl.

 

[Aber]

A manual removal guide found on Google. My brother used Tee Support guide to get rid of it before.

 

[skipper]

Windows has been more secure than Macs ever since OSX...that is a given. But that isn't saying much at all. Apple has all but ignored security issues for years.
I am an Apple fan when it comes to their products and fantastic innovation...not so much when it comes to their computers. I use to be back in the OS8-OS9 days. OSX is great that it sits on Unix, which means it virtually never crashes, and you will be happy as a lark as long as you only use Apple software - it is when you leave the Apple umbrella that things get ugly.
As for computers - I am Linux. I do sooo much with the system I have at home, and have not even the slightest fear of being compromised.

As for the laughing I wrote above...c'mon guy - this is an old claim (THIS version of Windows is super secure)...I have heard that with just about every Windows OS that came out.
It is more secure because there were a lot of changes, it will be a matter of time before script junkies tear into it.

What really sucks is that the REASON that XP was so insecure is a damned good one.

Windows NT revolutionized the concept of open architecture. You could literally replace the Kernel in NT 4.0. In 2000/XP. the system could easily be tweaked to virtually any purpose. The ticket vending machines for the LA Metrolink are all Windows XP - you'd never know it, there isn't a trace of the base OS. But that's the beauty of the thing, it could be recast into any mold needed, from controlling NC Mills to opening gates and doors, running surveillance cameras, you name it. XP could do anything - it was wide open to any modification anyone wanted to make.

Of course the bad guys could tweak it just as easily as those of us wanting to do something useful. XP was cheap and effective means of operating anything, sad that we live in such a shitty world that this became an invitation for assholes to attack.

I know you like Windows...but you do know that on Linux you can change the Kernel any time you want? Linux can and IS tweaked to death.
You can get a Linux distro where the installer in almost 8GB...and another that is just over 1 MB...that works!
The beauty of Linux is that you can tweak it down till you have just what you need (and why it is so secure).
One of the best firewalls out there that I ever dealt with is called "floppy firewall". There are large banks running this tiny system.
The ENTIRE OS fits on a floppy drive.
1) You install the OS into RAM from the floppy.
2) Set the system up which is saved to the floppy.
3) remove the floppy
4) you can't hack a system that is read-only..and only recognizes about 30-40 commands - only the ones that are required when you set it up. Commands that hackers need - are not in the tiny kernel...if the power goes out etc. - simply re-insert the floppy and you are running in about 2-3 minutes.

They are VERY secure because they are so simple...and FREE.

And I might add, it's also an 'Open Source' OS. A must for any specialized server application in business or manufacturing. Good luck getting the source code for XP.