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The OP is pure bull. And considering it does nothing to back up it's claim that's all that needs to be said right now
To many people watch TV and believe it, to many people believe what they are sold.
Death panels are active under Obama Care.
To many people watch TV and believe it, to many people believe what they are sold.
I am not sure what to make of someone who says this and posts pictures from rense.
Death panels are active under Obama Care.
Would you please quote from the relevant provision in the health care act which creates death panels, please?
To many people watch TV and believe it, to many people believe what they are sold.
I am not sure what to make of someone who says this and posts pictures from rense.
Death panels are active under Obama Care.
Would you please quote from the relevant provision in the health care act which creates death panels, please?
They put the panels in the stimulas bill to hide it!
A provision for an end-of-life “death panel” in Barack Obama’s health care reform plan, brought to light by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, already exists in legislation passed earlier this year under the Stimulus Bill.
H.R. 1 (more commonly known as the Recovery and Reinvestment Act, or the Stimulus Bill) contains US $1.1 billion in funding for the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research. The Council is the brain child of Tom Daschle, who lost the nomination for Health and Human Services Secretary due to an unpaid tax scandal. Daschle is also co-author of the book Critical: What we can do about the Health Care Crisis, in which he not only outlines the details of the Council but advocates for the rationing of medical care based on age and other qualifiers. He also argues that Americans ought to be more like Europeans who passively accept “hopeless diagnoses.”
Tom Daschle
Tom Daschle
Daschle’s stated purpose (and therefore President Obama’s purpose) for creating the Council is to empower an unelected bureaucracy to make the hard decisions about health care rationing that elected politicians are politically unable to make. The end result is to slow costly medical advancement and consumption.
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There are plenty of good reasons to oppose ObamaCare. ObamaCare is chock full of threats. But when you let the retards take over the conversation with their idiotic "death panels" shit, then you lose the war.
And that is exactly what happened. When you blow up your own credibility, you lose. You need to shoot Sarah Palin like a rabid dog in the street.
When the fuck are the assholes who have taken over the conservative movement going to finally figure that out?
I am not sure what to make of someone who says this and posts pictures from rense.
Would you please quote from the relevant provision in the health care act which creates death panels, please?
They put the panels in the stimulas bill to hide it!
A provision for an end-of-life “death panel” in Barack Obama’s health care reform plan, brought to light by former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, already exists in legislation passed earlier this year under the Stimulus Bill.
H.R. 1 (more commonly known as the Recovery and Reinvestment Act, or the Stimulus Bill) contains US $1.1 billion in funding for the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research. The Council is the brain child of Tom Daschle, who lost the nomination for Health and Human Services Secretary due to an unpaid tax scandal. Daschle is also co-author of the book Critical: What we can do about the Health Care Crisis, in which he not only outlines the details of the Council but advocates for the rationing of medical care based on age and other qualifiers. He also argues that Americans ought to be more like Europeans who passively accept “hopeless diagnoses.”
Tom Daschle
Tom Daschle
Daschle’s stated purpose (and therefore President Obama’s purpose) for creating the Council is to empower an unelected bureaucracy to make the hard decisions about health care rationing that elected politicians are politically unable to make. The end result is to slow costly medical advancement and consumption.
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I asked for the death panels in ObamaCare. The article you wrote is rewriting history. Sarah Palin and the "death panel" crowd specificially said the death panels were in the health reform act, not the stimulus bill.
Nice try.
Do you know when the "death panel" idiocy started? It started when Congressman Blumenauer of Oregon added a provision to have the federal government pay for end of life counseling for seniors. That way, when someone went to their doctor to get advice about how to make a living will or whatnot, they did not have to pay for the visit out of their own pocket. The doctor visit would be paid for by Medicare.
How freaking hard is it to understand that? How retarded would you have to be to be against the idea of someone making their own informed decisions ahead of time about their own care in case they are incapacitated?
But the retards completely misunderstood this very simple concept and said it was a "death panel" provision. Palin's understanding of that provision was the EXACT OPPPOSITE of what she claimed.
The retards got SO retarded that Blumenauer wrote a memo saying their profound stupidity would probably end up killing the provision. And he turned out to be correct in his assessment of their stupidity, because they took his memo to mean THEY were right about it being a "death panel" provision.
We're talking a seven-pounds-of-brain-damage level of retardation here.
Now that their retarded misinterpretation of the provision has been made clear to them, rather than admitting they totally failed in reading comprehension, they are rewriting history to say "death panels" are something else altogether now.
You started this topic by saying, "To (sic) many people watch TV and believe it, to (sic) many people believe what they are sold."
Looks like you are the one drinking the bongwater.
The Intelligent Woman’s guide to Socialism and Capitalism 1928“…under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possible be executed in a kindly manner…”
Yay!! Death panels again!
The Intelligent Womans guide to Socialism and Capitalism 1928 under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possible be executed in a kindly manner
Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw
What pisses me off is that they hid the funding for health-care items like this Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research in the stimulus bill to hide the true cost of the health-care plan.
