GOPer accidently tells the truth!

[The Infidel]

Holy crap? Democrats had been in the majority in congress and the senate for two years when Obama was elected. You could make the argument that democrats set up the financial collapse as the biggest October surprise in history. The "man" who was holding all the cards was the powerful banking chairman and he confessed that he had "ideological blinders" on when Fannie collapsed.

First off, you need to stop regurgitating false neocon talking points, Avatar. The Dem win in 2006 DID NOT give the Dems the majority votes in the Senate necessary to pass their reforms and proposals. Add to that the record number of filibusters by the Party of NO, and a key support of your "argument" disappears. To try and IGNORE the deregulation and reaganomic approach by the Shrub & company effect on the country would only be accepted by someone who is only attune to one type of news source.

As I suspected, when a GOPer makes a slip and acknowledges that Obama inherited a steaming mess from the previous administration, the neocon apologist rush to the Shrub's defense with the same tired half-truths and distortions....pathetic.

Nobody thought our economy was doing well in 2008. There were no "slips and acknowledges". Only a partisan hack would try and make a moronic point like that.
The dems had the Senate, and they had Congress from 2006 on, so lets try and play the game of "reality".....it took both parties to get in the mess we were in.

X2... Most actual "conservatives" were as pissed at the Repub's for what they were doing as we are now.
Lets not forget who handled the purse strings since 2006 either

 

[BlindBoo]

Of course the GDP would look that way since we are paying more for the same stuff now.

http://www.housingwire.com/2011/01/28/gdp-growth-accelerates-in-4qt

Led by increased consumer spending and stronger net exports, fourth-quarter gross domestic product growth rose from the prior three months, although a little slower than many expected but possibly at a rate that indicates the economic recovery is picking up speed.

The Commerce Department said GDP growth rose an inflation-adjusted 3.2% in the final three months of 2010, up from 2.6% growth for the third quarter


OT-my wife really likes your avatar. Cute.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

He is not talking about Ron Paul he is talking about Paul Ryan.

the dipshit calls anyone that disagrees with him a neocon
people that are not even close to being one

I realize that but in this case he wasn't even talking about Ron Paul. I suspect that QW just didn't see the "Ryan" after "Representavive Paul' and thought he was talking about him instead of Paul Ryan.

I certainly did something like that. Not going to try and figure out exactly what, because I obviously slipped somewhere.

 

[DiveCon]

Contrast this with the surplus that Bush II inherited and the Teascum with their dumb signs should realize they're pointing fingers at the wrong people.

dipshit, the TEA Party movement got started when Bush was still in office

BULLSHIT!!!!!! Bush's last day in office you mean.

Notice how CON$ deliberately mislead! Bush had only hours left in office, but the way DumbCon words it you would think the protest was throughout Bush's presidency.

The Tea Party Terrorist Movement began January 19, 2009, 15:02:42, and you know it, but it didn't go viral until Jan, 24, 2009.

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dipshit, it got started YEARS before any formal group got going
this is why n early everyone thinks your a fucking moron

 

[DiveCon]

Holy crap? Democrats had been in the majority in congress and the senate for two years when Obama was elected. You could make the argument that democrats set up the financial collapse as the biggest October surprise in history. The "man" who was holding all the cards was the powerful banking chairman and he confessed that he had "ideological blinders" on when Fannie collapsed.

First off, you need to stop regurgitating false neocon talking points, Avatar. The Dem win in 2006 DID NOT give the Dems the majority votes in the Senate necessary to pass their reforms and proposals. Add to that the record number of filibusters by the Party of NO, and a key support of your "argument" disappears. To try and IGNORE the deregulation and reaganomic approach by the Shrub & company effect on the country would only be accepted by someone who is only attune to one type of news source.

As I suspected, when a GOPer makes a slip and acknowledges that Obama inherited a steaming mess from the previous administration, the neocon apologist rush to the Shrub's defense with the same tired half-truths and distortions....pathetic.

Nobody thought our economy was doing well in 2008. There were no "slips and acknowledges". Only a partisan hack would try and make a moronic point like that.
The dems had the Senate, and they had Congress from 2006 on, so lets try and play the game of "reality".....it took both parties to get in the mess we were in.

and it was over SEVERAL administrations
neither party is free from guilt in this

 

[edthecynic]

dipshit, the TEA Party movement got started when Bush was still in office

BULLSHIT!!!!!! Bush's last day in office you mean.

Notice how CON$ deliberately mislead! Bush had only hours left in office, but the way DumbCon words it you would think the protest was throughout Bush's presidency.

The Tea Party Terrorist Movement began January 19, 2009, 15:02:42, and you know it, but it didn't go viral until Jan, 24, 2009.

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dipshit, it got started YEARS before any formal group got going
this is why n early everyone thinks your a fucking moron

BULLSHIT!

You seem to be claiming it was a movement before anyone was moving. A movement of none for years before anyone ever heard of the movement.

All you ever do is pontificate. How about backing up your crap.

 

[DiveCon]

BULLSHIT!!!!!! Bush's last day in office you mean.

Notice how CON$ deliberately mislead! Bush had only hours left in office, but the way DumbCon words it you would think the protest was throughout Bush's presidency.

The Tea Party Terrorist Movement began January 19, 2009, 15:02:42, and you know it, but it didn't go viral until Jan, 24, 2009.

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dipshit, it got started YEARS before any formal group got going
this is why n early everyone thinks your a fucking moron

BULLSHIT!

You seem to be claiming it was a movement before anyone was moving. A movement of none for years before anyone ever heard of the movement.

All you ever do is pontificate. How about backing up your crap.

dipshit, it has to start BEFORE you form a group
idiot

 

[taichiliberal]

Okay, maybe this has slipped passed a lot of people....ESPECIALLY the alleged "liberal media".....but when Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) made his televised response for the GOP to President Obama's State of the Union address earlier this week, he let slip this little tidbit:

"...There is no doubt the President came into office facing a severe fiscal and economic situation."

Republican response to State of the Union Address

Holy Crap! Amid the usual rehash of neocon half-truths, distortions and lies regarding Obama's 2 years in office, Ryan ADMITS that Obama inherited one major steaming mess from the previous administration!

That's right all you oathers/birthers/teabaggers/neocons/Libertarians and what have you....the poster boy for the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU just derailed the Shrub propaganda train of "it's all Obama's fault"!

And not ONE main stream media entity that I know of has asked the question of any GOP politico....."So, does this mean that the historical narrative for the Bush administration is validating it's critics from the Democratic, liberal and Independent parties to a large degree?"

Fascinating!

Wow, I see we have another poster with delusions of grandeur and an inability to admit the truth.

Folks, when the Quantum Windbag can't readily disprove another posters point, he starts off with lame insults before he diverges from the main topic. Let's see if he does better here.

You attempt to take Ron Paul's acknowledgment that the economy was bad when Obama took office and twist that into proof that when the people say that Obama is validating Bush-Cheney's policies about Iraq, Afghanistan, the war on terror, and the PATRIOT Act they are wrong. Please explain to me, if you can, what they have to do with each other.

Okay folks, let's deflate the Quantum Windbag here:

1. - We're talking about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)....NOT Libertarian Ron Paul

2. - No one said any nonsense about Obama "validating" the Shrub's idiocy in Iraq....since ANY attempt at draw down and/or withdrawal proposed by Obama was met with wails of disproval and hyperbol by the neocon GOP and punditry.

3. - No one said that there wasn't criticism from the left about Obama not taking on the Patriot Act or his Afghanistan policies......this is about Ryan acknowledging that Obama inherited an MAJOR ECONOMIC screw-up that the previous administration contributed to.

4. - Our neocon Windbag loves to create his own story line and make up lies as to what others have stated.


Something else Ron Paul said in his speech.

The social unrest will elicit cries for government to exert unusual force to head off a complete breakdown of law and order. The ultimate trap will be set for a system of government claiming to protect a free society. If more power and police authority are not given to the federal government, it will be argued that only anarchy will result.

Why don't you talk about how obama is already doing just what Ron Paul is talking about, and moving our country from a land of liberty to something else entirely?

Again, I'm not talking about what Ron Paul stated, as Ron Paul was NOT the person giving the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU speech. Here's the transcript:
Transcript: Ryan's response to State of the Union - Page 3 - CNN

Get your head out of your Quantum Windbag ass and pay attention!

 

[taichiliberal]

Okay, maybe this has slipped passed a lot of people....ESPECIALLY the alleged "liberal media".....but when Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) made his televised response for the GOP to President Obama's State of the Union address earlier this week, he let slip this little tidbit:

"...There is no doubt the President came into office facing a severe fiscal and economic situation."

Republican response to State of the Union Address

Holy Crap! Amid the usual rehash of neocon half-truths, distortions and lies regarding Obama's 2 years in office, Ryan ADMITS that Obama inherited one major steaming mess from the previous administration!

That's right all you oathers/birthers/teabaggers/neocons/Libertarians and what have you....the poster boy for the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU just derailed the Shrub propaganda train of "it's all Obama's fault"!

And not ONE main stream media entity that I know of has asked the question of any GOP politico....."So, does this mean that the historical narrative for the Bush administration is validating it's critics from the Democratic, liberal and Independent parties to a large degree?"

Fascinating!

You're confused.

The main theme was "Is all Bush's fault".

You're not paying attention or your lying.....for 8 years the Shrub & company and the neocon punditry all wailed, "it's all Clinton's fault". Then it was, "It's the 2 year Dem Congress' fault", then it was, "it's all Obama's fault". Ryan inadvertently admits that the Srhub and company contributed to this mess that Obama INHERITED!.
The economy was in a mess. Who's responsible is debatable, but we can at least say the Senate, which Obama was a member is partly responsible.


You lefties tried blaming it all on Bush but now that the economy keeps getting worse you don't want to blame any of it on Obama or the Democrats.

Well, you had 18 months to fix it and you failed. Spending will not fix the economy. Raising taxes is not the only solution.

You want to ignore who was in charge for 8 years that passed policies and rules that accelerated the economic disaster. The Dems NEVER had the votes in the Senate to fully stop the neocon agenda. And the "raising taxes" means taking away the tax breaks for wealthy folk and corporations THAT WILL STILL BE WEALTHY AFTERWARDS. Deal with it.

The OP is a prime example of projection. The poster projecting the deeds of the left onto the GOP.

Only in the mind of neocon parrots desperately trying to absolve the Shrub & company of all sins. Sadly for you, Ryan just shot that little ditty to hell.

 

[DiveCon]

Okay, maybe this has slipped passed a lot of people....ESPECIALLY the alleged "liberal media".....but when Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) made his televised response for the GOP to President Obama's State of the Union address earlier this week, he let slip this little tidbit:

"...There is no doubt the President came into office facing a severe fiscal and economic situation."

Republican response to State of the Union Address

Holy Crap! Amid the usual rehash of neocon half-truths, distortions and lies regarding Obama's 2 years in office, Ryan ADMITS that Obama inherited one major steaming mess from the previous administration!

That's right all you oathers/birthers/teabaggers/neocons/Libertarians and what have you....the poster boy for the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU just derailed the Shrub propaganda train of "it's all Obama's fault"!

And not ONE main stream media entity that I know of has asked the question of any GOP politico....."So, does this mean that the historical narrative for the Bush administration is validating it's critics from the Democratic, liberal and Independent parties to a large degree?"

Fascinating!

You're confused.

The main theme was "Is all Bush's fault".

You're not paying attention or your lying.....for 8 years the Shrub & company and the neocon punditry all wailed, "it's all Clinton's fault". Then it was, "It's the 2 year Dem Congress' fault", then it was, "it's all Obama's fault". Ryan inadvertently admits that the Srhub and company contributed to this mess that Obama INHERITED!.
The economy was in a mess. Who's responsible is debatable, but we can at least say the Senate, which Obama was a member is partly responsible.


You lefties tried blaming it all on Bush but now that the economy keeps getting worse you don't want to blame any of it on Obama or the Democrats.

Well, you had 18 months to fix it and you failed. Spending will not fix the economy. Raising taxes is not the only solution.

You want to ignore who was in charge for 8 years that passed policies and rules that accelerated the economic disaster. The Dems NEVER had the votes in the Senate to fully stop the neocon agenda. And the "raising taxes" means taking away the tax breaks for wealthy folk and corporations THAT WILL STILL BE WEALTHY AFTERWARDS. Deal with it.

The OP is a prime example of projection. The poster projecting the deeds of the left onto the GOP.

Only in the mind of neocon parrots desperately trying to absolve the Shrub & company of all sins. Sadly for you, Ryan just shot that little ditty to hell.

not only are you an idiot, you are also a liar

 

[taichiliberal]

fannie and freddie,, can you say fannie and freddie?? And congress refuses to address fannie and freddie.

Can You say "reaganomics" boys & girls? Because if you can, then the Bush Crime family and Clinton with BOTH sides of the Congress were complicit in perpetuating that mess, which led to Fannie and Freddie.

Bottom line: Ryan inadvertently threw the Shrub propaganda right out the window.

 

[taichiliberal]

and this idiot still cant define his usage of the term "neocon"

What is your definition of a necon?

Neo-Conservatives are, for the most part, formal liberals that left the DNC b/c the morals of the DNC had declined to far for them, and the RNC was more freindly. They tend to have a liberal to moderate view of the economy. (IMO) If anyone is a neo-con let me know what I got wrong.

That's one aspect.....but the main neo-conservative ideology was the Executive Branch centric attitudes that were displayed by the Shrub & his puppet master Cheney. The "strangle federal gov't in a bathtub" attitude is certainly NOT a part of any vestige of liberalism.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Okay, maybe this has slipped passed a lot of people....ESPECIALLY the alleged "liberal media".....but when Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) made his televised response for the GOP to President Obama's State of the Union address earlier this week, he let slip this little tidbit:

"...There is no doubt the President came into office facing a severe fiscal and economic situation."

Republican response to State of the Union Address

Holy Crap! Amid the usual rehash of neocon half-truths, distortions and lies regarding Obama's 2 years in office, Ryan ADMITS that Obama inherited one major steaming mess from the previous administration!

That's right all you oathers/birthers/teabaggers/neocons/Libertarians and what have you....the poster boy for the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU just derailed the Shrub propaganda train of "it's all Obama's fault"!

And not ONE main stream media entity that I know of has asked the question of any GOP politico....."So, does this mean that the historical narrative for the Bush administration is validating it's critics from the Democratic, liberal and Independent parties to a large degree?"

Fascinating!

Wow, I see we have another poster with delusions of grandeur and an inability to admit the truth.

Folks, when the Quantum Windbag can't readily disprove another posters point, he starts off with lame insults before he diverges from the main topic. Let's see if he does better here.

You attempt to take Ron Paul's acknowledgment that the economy was bad when Obama took office and twist that into proof that when the people say that Obama is validating Bush-Cheney's policies about Iraq, Afghanistan, the war on terror, and the PATRIOT Act they are wrong. Please explain to me, if you can, what they have to do with each other.

Okay folks, let's deflate the Quantum Windbag here:

1. - We're talking about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)....NOT Libertarian Ron Paul

2. - No one said any nonsense about Obama "validating" the Shrub's idiocy in Iraq....since ANY attempt at draw down and/or withdrawal proposed by Obama was met with wails of disproval and hyperbol by the neocon GOP and punditry.

3. - No one said that there wasn't criticism from the left about Obama not taking on the Patriot Act or his Afghanistan policies......this is about Ryan acknowledging that Obama inherited an MAJOR ECONOMIC screw-up that the previous administration contributed to.

4. - Our neocon Windbag loves to create his own story line and make up lies as to what others have stated.


Something else Ron Paul said in his speech.

The social unrest will elicit cries for government to exert unusual force to head off a complete breakdown of law and order. The ultimate trap will be set for a system of government claiming to protect a free society. If more power and police authority are not given to the federal government, it will be argued that only anarchy will result.

Why don't you talk about how obama is already doing just what Ron Paul is talking about, and moving our country from a land of liberty to something else entirely?

Again, I'm not talking about what Ron Paul stated, as Ron Paul was NOT the person giving the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU speech. Here's the transcript:
Transcript: Ryan's response to State of the Union - Page 3 - CNN

Get your head out of your Quantum Windbag ass and pay attention!

Whatever, I already admitted my mistake when Article15 pointed it out. that does not change the fact that it was not an accident, or that conservative Republicans have been saying the same thing all along. That still makes you wrong.

 

[taichiliberal]

this tichilib guy is the best.

If I need to check the stereo type for redundant, rinse and repeat, I just look up one of his blather on posts.

gop- evul neo-cons
libs - innocent bystandards that the evul neo-cons wouldn't let save America.

pathetic

funny, but still pathetic.

What's pathetic is that YOU think just throwing out tired insults and neocon blather is a substitute for actual discussion of what one of YOUR representatives stated. Carry on.

Lets not confuse things.

I wasn't speaking to you
I wasnt' insulting you. I was stating facts about you, in a humours fashion. You lack the ability to converse, or see all the facts, so 'this' is the limit of our conversation.

Sorry to inform you, but YOUR supposition & conjecture are NOT FACTS. You are entitled to your opinion...proving it as a valid fact is a whole other smoke.

Ryan inadvertently blew away a key part of the neocon mantras of Shrub protection and Obama bashing.

 

[taichiliberal]

Okay, maybe this has slipped passed a lot of people....ESPECIALLY the alleged "liberal media".....but when Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) made his televised response for the GOP to President Obama's State of the Union address earlier this week, he let slip this little tidbit:

"...There is no doubt the President came into office facing a severe fiscal and economic situation."

Republican response to State of the Union Address

Holy Crap! Amid the usual rehash of neocon half-truths, distortions and lies regarding Obama's 2 years in office, Ryan ADMITS that Obama inherited one major steaming mess from the previous administration!

That's right all you oathers/birthers/teabaggers/neocons/Libertarians and what have you....the poster boy for the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU just derailed the Shrub propaganda train of "it's all Obama's fault"!

And not ONE main stream media entity that I know of has asked the question of any GOP politico....."So, does this mean that the historical narrative for the Bush administration is validating it's critics from the Democratic, liberal and Independent parties to a large degree?"

Fascinating!

Really?

Yes, REALLY!


CBO: Healthcare repeal would increase deficit

In a letter to Boehner, budget office director Douglas Elmendorf estimated repeal would increase the deficit by $230 billion from 2012 to 2021, the 10-year estimating period for budget projections. Moreover, Elmendorf said about 32 million more people would be uninsured in 2019 as a consequence.

CBO: Healthcare repeal would increase deficit - Healthcare Reform | Obama Health Care Plan - Salon.com

 

[taichiliberal]

Wow, I see we have another poster with delusions of grandeur and an inability to admit the truth.

Folks, when the Quantum Windbag can't readily disprove another posters point, he starts off with lame insults before he diverges from the main topic. Let's see if he does better here.

You attempt to take Ron Paul's acknowledgment that the economy was bad when Obama took office and twist that into proof that when the people say that Obama is validating Bush-Cheney's policies about Iraq, Afghanistan, the war on terror, and the PATRIOT Act they are wrong. Please explain to me, if you can, what they have to do with each other.

Okay folks, let's deflate the Quantum Windbag here:

1. - We're talking about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)....NOT Libertarian Ron Paul

2. - No one said any nonsense about Obama "validating" the Shrub's idiocy in Iraq....since ANY attempt at draw down and/or withdrawal proposed by Obama was met with wails of disproval and hyperbol by the neocon GOP and punditry.

3. - No one said that there wasn't criticism from the left about Obama not taking on the Patriot Act or his Afghanistan policies......this is about Ryan acknowledging that Obama inherited an MAJOR ECONOMIC screw-up that the previous administration contributed to.

4. - Our neocon Windbag loves to create his own story line and make up lies as to what others have stated.


Something else Ron Paul said in his speech.

Why don't you talk about how obama is already doing just what Ron Paul is talking about, and moving our country from a land of liberty to something else entirely?

Again, I'm not talking about what Ron Paul stated, as Ron Paul was NOT the person giving the GOP rebuttal to the President's SOTU speech. Here's the transcript:
Transcript: Ryan's response to State of the Union - Page 3 - CNN

Get your head out of your Quantum Windbag ass and pay attention!

Whatever, I already admitted my mistake when Article15 pointed it out. that does not change the fact that it was not an accident, or that conservative Republicans have been saying the same thing all along. That still makes you wrong.

If you "already" admitted your mistake, then why repeat it to me, you silly Windbag?

You keep trying to build some type of bridge to negate what Ryan stated, which undercuts a major support to the neocon mantra against Obama but absolving the Shrub/Cheney debacle....and all you're doing is just blowing hot air, my incompetant Quantum Windbag (QW thinks his supposition and conjecture equates facts, folk....so much more to pity QW).

 

[taichiliberal]

Holy crap? Democrats had been in the majority in congress and the senate for two years when Obama was elected. You could make the argument that democrats set up the financial collapse as the biggest October surprise in history. The "man" who was holding all the cards was the powerful banking chairman and he confessed that he had "ideological blinders" on when Fannie collapsed.

First off, you need to stop regurgitating false neocon talking points, Avatar. The Dem win in 2006 DID NOT give the Dems the majority votes in the Senate necessary to pass their reforms and proposals. Add to that the record number of filibusters by the Party of NO, and a key support of your "argument" disappears. To try and IGNORE the deregulation and reaganomic approach by the Shrub & company effect on the country would only be accepted by someone who is only attune to one type of news source.

As I suspected, when a GOPer makes a slip and acknowledges that Obama inherited a steaming mess from the previous administration, the neocon apologist rush to the Shrub's defense with the same tired half-truths and distortions....pathetic.

Nobody thought our economy was doing well in 2008. There were no "slips and acknowledges". Only a partisan hack would try and make a moronic point like that.
The dems had the Senate, and they had Congress from 2006 on, so lets try and play the game of "reality".....it took both parties to get in the mess we were in.

Take off the rose colored glasses, Meister. Neocon politicos and pundits ALL defended the Shrub's economic policies and blamed everything on Clinton...a matter of history and fact. Cheney, McCain and a slew of others are on record doing so.....don't take my word for it, do some honest research and you'll see it.

And again, the REALITY in 2006 was that the Dems DID NOT HAVE THE VOTES IN THE SENATE TO PASS THE LEGISLATION THEY WANTED. So spare me the regurgitation of tired assed, disproven neocon talking points.

Ryan inadvertently removed a key support of the "praise Bush, blame Obama" mantra of the neocon punditry whether you admit it or not.

 

[taichiliberal]

First off, you need to stop regurgitating false neocon talking points, Avatar. The Dem win in 2006 DID NOT give the Dems the majority votes in the Senate necessary to pass their reforms and proposals. Add to that the record number of filibusters by the Party of NO, and a key support of your "argument" disappears. To try and IGNORE the deregulation and reaganomic approach by the Shrub & company effect on the country would only be accepted by someone who is only attune to one type of news source.

As I suspected, when a GOPer makes a slip and acknowledges that Obama inherited a steaming mess from the previous administration, the neocon apologist rush to the Shrub's defense with the same tired half-truths and distortions....pathetic.

Nobody thought our economy was doing well in 2008. There were no "slips and acknowledges". Only a partisan hack would try and make a moronic point like that.
The dems had the Senate, and they had Congress from 2006 on, so lets try and play the game of "reality".....it took both parties to get in the mess we were in.

X2... Most actual "conservatives" were as pissed at the Repub's for what they were doing as we are now.
Lets not forget who handled the purse strings since 2006 either

"Actual conservatives"......where are they? Because they sure as hell voted for the Shrub twice, ardently supported him (save for that business about immigration reform) and supported EVERY neocon lie and distortion since 2008. Case in point, it is a FACT that the Dems DID NOT have the votes in the Senate in 2006 to enact their bill proposals. Period. But sure as hell haven't stopped neocon parrots from squawking the lie that YOU have just repeated, Infidel....or did you FORGET the RECORD number of filibusters from the Party of NO?

 

[MHanson]

Holy crap? Democrats had been in the majority in congress and the senate for two years when Obama was elected. You could make the argument that democrats set up the financial collapse as the biggest October surprise in history. The "man" who was holding all the cards was the powerful banking chairman and he confessed that he had "ideological blinders" on when Fannie collapsed.

First off, you need to stop regurgitating false neocon talking points, Avatar. The Dem win in 2006 DID NOT give the Dems the majority votes in the Senate necessary to pass their reforms and proposals. Add to that the record number of filibusters by the Party of NO, and a key support of your "argument" disappears. To try and IGNORE the deregulation and reaganomic approach by the Shrub & company effect on the country would only be accepted by someone who is only attune to one type of news source.

As I suspected, when a GOPer makes a slip and acknowledges that Obama inherited a steaming mess from the previous administration, the neocon apologist rush to the Shrub's defense with the same tired half-truths and distortions....pathetic.

What policy was it that the Dems wanted to pass that failed between 2006 and 2008? Why would the Republicans, which had the majority, have to resort to the filibuster to block anything?

Ron Paul did not slip when he said that the economy was bad when Obama took office, he has been calling out the Presidents, Congress, and the Fed since 1970, before he won an election, and has not stopped once. He also opposed the war in both Iran and Afghanistan, wants to bring all American troops back home, and abolish the Fed completely. If you actually paid more attention to him you would understand the difference between a conservative and a Republican.

Ron Paul is the only Republican I like. I even wrote his name in for 2008 since he was not on the ballot for any party.

Pity, the beat goes on ~