GOP wants to give our high tech jobs to foreigners

[emptystep]

If we need skilled tech workers they have to come from someplace. We aren't producing any.

You are really something else.

How can you spew this bullshit and live with yourself.

As someone who trained their own overseas replacement in 2000 I can speak for the downside of globalization however I believe that America just does not have the internal resources to compete going forward in the technology advanced future. If we don't import we don't compete. Decades of neglecting our education system has a price we will pay to catch up while we improve our education system. And if we don't improve it the price will only get higher. We import talent just like we import oil.

 

[Freewill]

I'm an immigrant to this country. I can tell you it is an enormous pain to immigrate here.

We need talented people to come to America. Something like half of all Ph.D.s in the sciences and math in American schools were born outside the country. But the Little Americans who think we have to protect ourselves from the Big Bad Outsiders by banning talent from this country think its a good thing. Let these smart and talented people go somewhere else.

It's bizarre. It's like banning really good football players from playing on your team.

A very non-Republican friend of mine runs an IT department at a non-profit. He has a hard time attracting good people.

Too bad it was so hard, I guess you can't swim.

 

[Sallow]

If we need skilled tech workers they have to come from someplace. We aren't producing any.

You are really something else.

How can you spew this bullshit and live with yourself.

As someone who trained their own overseas replacement in 2000 I can speak for the downside of globalization however I believe that America just does not have the internal resources to compete going forward in the technology advanced future. If we don't import we don't compete. Decades of neglecting our education system has a price we will pay to catch up while we improve our education system. And if we don't improve it the price will only get higher. We import talent just like we import oil.

That's bullshit.

The problem is that no one wants to pay top line American engineers what they are worth. So many with the mathematical acumen either get MBAs are start their own businesses.

If this sort of crap continues..we are really going to gut our technolgical advantage.

Outsourcing coding was a very shitty idea.

 

[kyzr]

Not letting talented people in and not funding our own education system. Sounds like a lose-lose proposition.

How much more must we pay into our educational system in order for it to be enough? For the product we are getting I say we are way overpaying for education.

Priorities?

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What about $53b wasted on foreign aid?
U.S. foreign aid escapes slashing cuts in fiscal 2012 | Reuters

Besides that, education is a State responsibility as per the "division & separation of powers" in the US Constitution.
The NYT has a "Balance the Budget" game that was sooo simple to do it was ridiculous, yet the DC whores refuse to act responsibly.
I sincerely hope that we go over the fiscal cliff, and then cut more spending. The economy will adjust.

 

[Sallow]

I'm an immigrant to this country. I can tell you it is an enormous pain to immigrate here.

We need talented people to come to America. Something like half of all Ph.D.s in the sciences and math in American schools were born outside the country. But the Little Americans who think we have to protect ourselves from the Big Bad Outsiders by banning talent from this country think its a good thing. Let these smart and talented people go somewhere else.

It's bizarre. It's like banning really good football players from playing on your team.

A very non-Republican friend of mine runs an IT department at a non-profit. He has a hard time attracting good people.

Too bad it was so hard, I guess you can't swim.

Toro's a Canadian.

 

[Antares]

A) Mexico's immigration policy makes ours look lax.
B) Our Educational institutes have been the shit for years, we rank nearly dead last and have for years. The BEST engineers ARE trained and educated overseas.

No and no.

Yes and yes, you are an idiot.



In a category related to K-12 education, the U.S. is ranked 31st, owing to low rankings in education expenditures. Our pupil-to-teacher ratio in secondary education, at 13.8:1, is ranked 61st. In higher education, the U.S. ranks second in enrollment, but 74th in students graduating with science and engineering degrees. Elsewhere, the U.S. ranks No. 1 in the amount of students taking the GMATs, the entry exam for business school, but 53rd on GMAT mean score.

U.S. Drops in Global Innovation Rankings - Marketplace K-12 - Education Week

Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien residing anywhere in the country. Mexican immigration authorities keep detailed records of all foreign visitors. These visitors are explicitly banned from interfering in the nation's internal politics. Those who enter the country under false pretenses (e.g., with fake papers) are summarily incarcerated or deported, and those who aid in illegal immigration are also sent to prison.


Mexican Immigration Policies - Discover the Networks

 

[Katzndogz]

Second in enrollment, 74th in graduation of engineers and scientists. Isn't this somewhat of a clue that we are letting in too many unqualified people who will never graduate? Affirmative Action in practice. The worst part is, for every unqualified person taking up space a qualified person is rejected. That's why we're failing. It's a failure to recognize reality.

 

[Antares]

Second in enrollment, 74th in graduation of engineers and scientists. Isn't this somewhat of a clue that we are letting in too many unqualified people who will never graduate? Affirmative Action in practice. The worst part is, for every unqualified person taking up space a qualified person is rejected. That's why we're failing. It's a failure to recognize reality.

The Tech industry has been bringing in foreign engineers for decades, we just aren't producing the quality needed.

 

[Unkotare]

You can always count on the GOP to support ANYTHING which hurts American working people.

Now, they want to ease visa restrictions to allow more foreigners to come here and take our high tech jobs. After spending decades helping to ship our lower tech jobs to China, now they want to give away our high tech jobs as well.

House Republicans plan vote on expanding science, tech visas - Political Watch - MarketWatch

Oh, sure...they call it some kind of "immigration reform," but it's actually a jobs for immigrants program which Mitt Romney had in his campaign platform and the House intends to deliver it anyhow.

So........you're kinda stupid, huh?

 

[Unkotare]

I'm an immigrant to this country. I can tell you it is an enormous pain to immigrate here.

We need talented people to come to America. Something like half of all Ph.D.s in the sciences and math in American schools were born outside the country. But the Little Americans who think we have to protect ourselves from the Big Bad Outsiders by banning talent from this country think its a good thing. Let these smart and talented people go somewhere else.

It's bizarre. It's like banning really good football players from playing on your team.

A very non-Republican friend of mine runs an IT department at a non-profit. He has a hard time attracting good people.

Too bad it was so hard, I guess you can't swim.

Toro's a Canadian.

He's AN AMERICAN. Don't forget it.

 

[Unkotare]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/b...le-to-fill-positions.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

[Unkotare]

Lack of skilled employees hurting manufacturing

 

[Unkotare]

Skilled Workers In Demand As Companies Face Talent Shortages

 

[Si modo]

You can always count on the GOP to support ANYTHING which hurts American working people.

Now, they want to ease visa restrictions to allow more foreigners to come here and take our high tech jobs. After spending decades helping to ship our lower tech jobs to China, now they want to give away our high tech jobs as well.

House Republicans plan vote on expanding science, tech visas - Political Watch - MarketWatch

Oh, sure...they call it some kind of "immigration reform," but it's actually a jobs for immigrants program which Mitt Romney had in his campaign platform and the House intends to deliver it anyhow.

Yup, let's keep the bright folks OUT of the USA...it certainly will help Obama.

 

[Unkotare]

there isn't much demand for English majors.

Revenge of the Liberal Arts Major

 

[Freewill]

A) Mexico's immigration policy makes ours look lax.
B) Our Educational institutes have been the shit for years, we rank nearly dead last and have for years. The BEST engineers ARE trained and educated overseas.

No and no.

I so do love to show how much you think you know.


Mexico's Immigration Laws Rarely Get Noticed

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Immigration Services - Uncover the Net Search

 

[Freewill]

there isn't much demand for English majors.

Revenge of the Liberal Arts Major

That is interesting, I wonder why McDonald's focuses on this degree. I am guessing they know they can't go anywhere else.

 

[Unkotare]

I'm an immigrant to this country. I can tell you it is an enormous pain to immigrate here.

We need talented people to come to America. Something like half of all Ph.D.s in the sciences and math in American schools were born outside the country. But the Little Americans who think we have to protect ourselves from the Big Bad Outsiders by banning talent from this country think its a good thing. Let these smart and talented people go somewhere else.

It's bizarre. It's like banning really good football players from playing on your team.

A very non-Republican friend of mine runs an IT department at a non-profit. He has a hard time attracting good people.

Instead of importing more cheap labor, how about we spend some tax dollars to re-train unemployed and under-employed American's to fill those jobs first?

The GOP says that's unjustified government spending, that it adds to the deficit, that it's a form of welfare. What do you say?

You really think some government program is going to "re-train" unemployed workers to become engineers and high-tech experts? Did you just get your medical marijuana prescription filled?

 

[Care4all]

You can always count on the GOP to support ANYTHING which hurts American working people.

Now, they want to ease visa restrictions to allow more foreigners to come here and take our high tech jobs. After spending decades helping to ship our lower tech jobs to China, now they want to give away our high tech jobs as well.

House Republicans plan vote on expanding science, tech visas - Political Watch - MarketWatch

Oh, sure...they call it some kind of "immigration reform," but it's actually a jobs for immigrants program which Mitt Romney had in his campaign platform and the House intends to deliver it anyhow.

the left is so disingenuous it is outrageous. The thing that was predicted then and has come true is that the free trade agreements that Clinton got passed would cause jobs to flee the country. Now it has and you liberal liars want to put the blame any where then where it belongs, right with the Democrat party. On top of that the liberal left is all for illegals flooding the country and taking any other low tech job.

if you are a gramps you are old enough to remember Perot's prediction of a great sucking sound of jobs and it has happened just as he said.

Then we have you democrats bragging about all the elections you win, but you won't take responsibility for the mess that the democrats have created, disgusting.

If there are Americans to do the high tech jobs then they certainly should get first shot. But remember, the liberals are in control of our education system and the products they turn out a deep in debt and there isn't much demand for English majors.

Actually, it is YOU who is being a little bit disingenuous....NAFTA was brokered by GHW Bush before he left office....during the Clinton campaign for the presidency, he did agree to sign NAFTA that was already signed by all country leaders involved in the treaty...and yes, THAT was a mistake on Clinton's part, for agreeing to allow George h w's treaty before he even became president and before he could evaluate the North American treaty....

but Clinton DID NOT create this trade treaty, did not broker this trade treaty, it was the making of a Republican, George H W Bush.

 

[rdean]

So is that how it works?

Democrats give away low skilled jobs to Illegal Aliens.
Republicans give away high skilled jobs to Legal Immigrants.

Which Party f*cks us more?

Democrats don't give away anything.

Remember, it was Mitt who hired illegals to cut his grass. It was Mitt who ran on a platform of wanting to help "immigrants with degrees". It was on his site and I linked to it dozens of times.

As far as Democrats go, they want to invest in American citizens. Something Republicans call "socialism". Remember, when Santorum said the GOP had NO SMART PEOPLE, those idiots "cheered". Don't blame this on Democrats.

You guys are so stupid, you called "food" and "education" GIFTS. Well, instead of giving to foreigners, why not give to deserving Americans. Did I really have to say that??????? Fuck!