GOP wants Hawaii to break "state law" over Obama

[rdean]

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

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This man has been slandered and put through the wringer by Republicans who have no respect for Obama's family, for minorities, for the law. Hell, the GOP tricked America into war and hid the cost. Is there anything they won't do? It's because they feel they are "moral" and "patriotic" that the rules don't apply to them. Republicans are an embarrassment to the US.

 

[del]

jesus, like the rightwingloons aren't enough...

 

[Oddball]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Governor Abercrombie ran on the promise that he'd show everyone Obamas' B.C. but after he was elected he ran away screaming!

"I can't find it!" he said!

But I'm sure Obama will put all these rumors to rest by just showing everyone his B.C. real soon. Yep. Now it's coming out that Obamas' real name might be Steve Dunham, based on the Social Security number he got from Connecticut.

The plot thickens as Liberal heads explode!

 

[xsited1]

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

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This man has been slandered and put through the wringer by Republicans who have no respect for Obama's family, for minorities, for the law. Hell, the GOP tricked America into war and hid the cost. Is there anything they won't do? It's because they feel they are "moral" and "patriotic" that the rules don't apply to them. Republicans are an embarrassment to the US.

If the BC is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

 

[RadiomanATL]

Personally, I think Obama not releasing anything is the smartest thing he can do.

Why waste resources attacking the enemy when they're doing quite well making fools of themselves?

I wish conservatives would drop this idiotic bullshit. It's an election loser, not a winner.

Its the equivalent of Kerry in 2004 running on a troofer platform.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

No. The Manchurian Candidate and his handlers have spent millions of dollars making sure we never find that out.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Kerry and Bush showed everyone their mediocre grades. Why doesn't O show us all of those A's?

 

[rdean]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Yea, me too. We already know Harvard is sleezy. They jumped unqualified Bush over thousands more qualified because of "daddy's connections". How dishonest can you be?

Of course, Obama didn't have any connections. He didn't use "Affirmative Action" like Clarence Thomas, and took out tens of thousands in student loans that he only paid off after his first best seller came out. There must be something wrong with him. Giving the appearance of being honest? The current Speaker of the House gave out bribes on the house floor just before an important vote. Now HIM, you can "trust".

 

[rdean]

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

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This man has been slandered and put through the wringer by Republicans who have no respect for Obama's family, for minorities, for the law. Hell, the GOP tricked America into war and hid the cost. Is there anything they won't do? It's because they feel they are "moral" and "patriotic" that the rules don't apply to them. Republicans are an embarrassment to the US.

If the BC is in a bound volume, let the birthers choose one person to go and inspect it and report back.

What part of "against the law" you didn't understand?

 

[The T]

Kerry and Bush showed everyone their mediocre grades. Why doesn't O show us all of those A's?

Or any of his writings in college? Is he that ashamed of them? Why under lock and key?

If his actions are of any consequence? He's already telegraphed why.

 

[The Infidel]

Kerry and Bush showed everyone their mediocre grades. Why doesn't O show us all of those A's?

Because he is a lying SACK OF STINKY SHIT.

Oh, and a huge coward!

 

[The T]

Kerry and Bush showed everyone their mediocre grades. Why doesn't O show us all of those A's?

Because he is a lying SACK OF STINKY SHIT.

Oh, and a huge coward!

Lying or confused. He changes his mantra depending upon whom he's addressing...so I lean toward the former. But his wet-behind-the-ears approach in mind regarding changing his mind, [topic dependent]would dictate the latter.

So that would lead us to the former again in an attempt for him to muddy the waters as to true intent...

 

[bucs90]

One thing can be certain about this issue, as well as the many others facing this nation and our world.




If a liberal posts on a forum about it, and changes the text to giant font, underlined text, multi-colored text (You know who you are), bold text..........well, then you know how important it really is. You know....just in case we didn't read it with normal text.

 

[Toro]

From the link

As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.

The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

Her second point — one she made repeatedly in the interview — is that the shorter, computer generated "certification of live birth" that was obtained by the Obama campaign in 2007 and has since been publicly released is the standard document that anybody requesting their birth certificate from the state of Hawaii would receive from the health department.

The document was distributed to the Obama campaign in 2007 after Obama, at the request of a campaign official, personally signed a Hawaii birth certificate request form downloaded on the Internet, according to a former campaign official who asked for anonymity. ...

Hawaiian officials say that the certification is, in fact, only one piece of abundant evidence of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Joshua Wisch, a spokesman for the Hawaii attorney general's office, noted that a public index of vital records, available for inspection in a bound volume at the Health Department's Office of Health Status Monitoring, lists a male child named "Obama II, Barack Hussein" as having been born in the state.

In addition, as Factcheck.org and other media organizations have repeatedly pointed out, both of Honolulu's newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, and the Honolulu Star Bulletin, on Aug. 14, 1961, both ran birth announcements listing Obama's birth on Aug. 4 of that year.

Even Fukino accepts that her comments are not likely to end the matter for the die-hard birthers. Trump and other skeptics have questioned why the original birth certificate has not been released.

But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general's office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of "vital records," including an original "record of live birth" — even to the individual whose birth it records.

"It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.

But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated "certification of live birth" form that everybody else gets — which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.

Can we puh-leeze stop talking about this nonsense and discuss something even remotely meaningful.

 

[The T]

One thing can be certain about this issue, as well as the many others facing this nation and our world.

And there ARE larger issues facing this nation...

If a liberal posts on a forum about it, and changes the text to giant font, underlined text, multi-colored text (You know who you are), bold text..........well, then you know how important it really is. You know....just in case we didn't read it with normal text.

Deos it begin and end with

?

 

[Zona]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Ah, so your one of those intelligent Schoolers.

This is just funny stuff here. I heard there are shoe lacers, sox color uh ers, ear waxers as well as burfers and schoolers out there.

Good luck with all this deniers. Get over it, He won in 2008 and will win again in 2012.

Keep trying though.

 

[bucs90]

One thing can be certain about this issue, as well as the many others facing this nation and our world.

And there ARE larger issues facing this nation...

If a liberal posts on a forum about it, and changes the text to giant font, underlined text, multi-colored text (You know who you are), bold text..........well, then you know how important it really is. You know....just in case we didn't read it with normal text.

Deos it begin and end with

?

Possibly. Oh wait.......







POSSIBLY.

 

[Againsheila]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Ah, so your one of those intelligent Schoolers.

This is just funny stuff here. I heard there are shoe lacers, sox color uh ers, ear waxers as well as burfers and schoolers out there.

Good luck with all this deniers. Get over it, He won in 2008 and will win again in 2012.

Keep trying though.

God, I hope not. He's getting us into more wars than Bush Jr....

 

[Oscar Wao]

I'm actually much more interested in seeing Boiking's transcripts from Columbia and Harvard.

Well, he had to have done at least halfway decent to make Law Review.