GOP To FAA: Drop Dead

[Truthmatters]

They need to privatetize the FAA anyway

Then we will pay more for tickets and have to worry about these services being effected by bottom lines and corporate fraud.

there is a reason this was not private.

 

[Full-Auto]

It's all good. Lets stop maintaining and building things.

That should work out well in the long run.

For sure.

They don't want to leave their children and grandchildren in debt, but they are fine with leaving their children and grandchildren with collapsing bridges, unsafe food, and chemically tainted water.

LOL Pure BS

We have spent and spent and spent on infrastructure.

 

[Synthaholic]

It's all good. Lets stop maintaining and building things.

That should work out well in the long run.

For sure.

They don't want to leave their children and grandchildren in debt, but they are fine with leaving their children and grandchildren with collapsing bridges, unsafe food, and chemically tainted water.

LOL Pure BS

We have spent and spent and spent on infrastructure.

When - in the 1950s?

 

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They don't want to leave their children and grandchildren in debt, but they are fine with leaving their children and grandchildren with collapsing bridges, unsafe food, and chemically tainted water.

LOL Pure BS

We have spent and spent and spent on infrastructure.

When - in the 1950s?

I guess you had better do some research. Check this admin and the last.


5 guys, and only one with the shovel costs money.

 

[kiwiman127]

All of this grandstanding by the far right is adding to the deficit. By the time this whole thing is done there will be a net loss of a at least billion dollars. But hey, the US can afford that.
The GOP House wanted to save $200 million, well now the cost has of that stand has gone over the $200 million they wanted to save! Also, the GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and now they are causing the loss of jobs, not just in the public sector but also in the private sector. Not only that, they are hurting struggling construction companies. So much for being pro-business.
Well done GOP, well done.

 

[saveliberty]

This is $200B in tax not collected, which is now being returned to ticketholders after the media blew the whistle that the airlines were just keeping the windfall. Here's the list of projects by the way.

FAA Stop Work Orders that have been issued

Not the end of the world.

 

[Full-Auto]

All of this grandstanding by the far right is adding to the deficit. By the time this whole thing is done there will be a net loss of a at least billion dollars. But hey, the US can afford that.
The GOP House wanted to save $200 million, well now the cost has of that stand has gone over the $200 million they wanted to save! Also, the GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and now they are causing the loss of jobs, not just in the public sector but also in the private sector. Not only that, they are hurting struggling construction companies. So much for being pro-business.
Well done GOP, well done.

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

 

[kiwiman127]

All of this grandstanding by the far right is adding to the deficit. By the time this whole thing is done there will be a net loss of a at least billion dollars. But hey, the US can afford that.
The GOP House wanted to save $200 million, well now the cost has of that stand has gone over the $200 million they wanted to save! Also, the GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and now they are causing the loss of jobs, not just in the public sector but also in the private sector. Not only that, they are hurting struggling construction companies. So much for being pro-business.
Well done GOP, well done.

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

 

[Full-Auto]

All of this grandstanding by the far right is adding to the deficit. By the time this whole thing is done there will be a net loss of a at least billion dollars. But hey, the US can afford that.
The GOP House wanted to save $200 million, well now the cost has of that stand has gone over the $200 million they wanted to save! Also, the GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and now they are causing the loss of jobs, not just in the public sector but also in the private sector. Not only that, they are hurting struggling construction companies. So much for being pro-business.
Well done GOP, well done.

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

The left changed the rules for unionizing. Hows that working out for you?

 

[kiwiman127]

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

The left changed the rules for unionizing. Hows that working out for you?

First of all I was wrong about the cuts the GOP wanted to make, it was for 16.5 million and already $200 million has been lost. By the time Congress gets back to work the cost of this stand-off will be $1.5 billion. That's the math.
Now the unionizing thing. The unions want airline and railroad employees to conform to the voting procedures that everyone else uses and a format approved last year by the National Mediation Board. They want all the votes that were cast to count but not to count votes that weren't cast (the GOP wants the votes not casted to count as a "no").
My opinion, well it depends on the interruption of democratic process. I haven't heard of a democratic process where someone who decides not to vote has their vote still count. But I also don't think anyone should be forced to join a union. So it's more or less an issue of Semitics.

 

[Full-Auto]

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

The left changed the rules for unionizing. Hows that working out for you?

First of all I was wrong about the cuts the GOP wanted to make, it was for 16.5 million and already $200 million has been lost. By the time Congress gets back to work the cost of this stand off will be $1.5 billion. That's the math.
Now the unionizing thing. The unions want airline and railroad employees to conform to the voting procedures that everyone else uses and a format approved last year by the National Mediation Board. They want all the votes that were cast to count but not to count votes that weren't cast (the GOP wants the votes not casted to count as a "no").
My opinion, well it depends on the interruption of democratic process. I haven't heard of a democratic process where someone who decides not to vote has their vote still count. But I also don't think anyone should be forced to join a union. So it's more or less an issue of Semitics.

First, The GOP want the rules left as they were. So democrats decided the issue of unionizing federals employees was more important then revenue.

Its that simple.

 

[MaggieMae]

GOP To FAA: Drop Dead


The Republican House went on vacation without reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration, furloughing 4000 federal workers and stranding tens of thousands of workers who can’t continue already-started construction projects. They are holding reauthorization hostage to provisions that would weaken workers’ collective bargaining rights. This is going to cost $1.2 billion in lost passenger tax revenue. Even Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is blasting the GOP’s negligence.

“We’re getting ready to leave for a month. We should not shut down the FAA because of a rider put on the extension of the FAA legislation that has not been negotiated,” Hutchison said.


“It is not honorable for the House to send an extraneous amendment” on a funding extension, she said.

This is an outrage. Ironically, those same assholes who refuse to fund the FAA because they don't like the subsidies going to small commuter airlines, also rejected removal of subsidies for the Fat Cats private jet fleets.

They are a fucking joke, and this will NOT be lost on the public. (Read: Voters.)

 

[Warrior102]

GOP To FAA: Drop Dead


The Republican House went on vacation without reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration, furloughing 4000 federal workers and stranding tens of thousands of workers who can’t continue already-started construction projects. They are holding reauthorization hostage to provisions that would weaken workers’ collective bargaining rights. This is going to cost $1.2 billion in lost passenger tax revenue. Even Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is blasting the GOP’s negligence.

“We’re getting ready to leave for a month. We should not shut down the FAA because of a rider put on the extension of the FAA legislation that has not been negotiated,” Hutchison said.


“It is not honorable for the House to send an extraneous amendment” on a funding extension, she said.

So ?

You would think they're happy to be on furlough.

I'd rather sleep in my own bed than an airport tower any day.

 

[mudwhistle]

GOP To FAA: Drop Dead


The Republican House went on vacation without reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration, furloughing 4000 federal workers and stranding tens of thousands of workers who can’t continue already-started construction projects. They are holding reauthorization hostage to provisions that would weaken workers’ collective bargaining rights. This is going to cost $1.2 billion in lost passenger tax revenue. Even Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is blasting the GOP’s negligence.

“We’re getting ready to leave for a month. We should not shut down the FAA because of a rider put on the extension of the FAA legislation that has not been negotiated,” Hutchison said.


“It is not honorable for the House to send an extraneous amendment” on a funding extension, she said.

The big problem is the FAA is unionized and what is really the issue at hand is that union dues and taxes aren't being paid to the Democrats.

I heard about this yesterday. Seems the White House and the Senate dropped the ball on this.....and now they're trying to lay the blame on the GOP which only controls one third of one third of the government. It's like attempting to lay fault of everything that goes wrong on 11% of all of the people involved.....which is normal for Democrats.

 

[kiwiman127]

The left changed the rules for unionizing. Hows that working out for you?

First of all I was wrong about the cuts the GOP wanted to make, it was for 16.5 million and already $200 million has been lost. By the time Congress gets back to work the cost of this stand off will be $1.5 billion. That's the math.
Now the unionizing thing. The unions want airline and railroad employees to conform to the voting procedures that everyone else uses and a format approved last year by the National Mediation Board. They want all the votes that were cast to count but not to count votes that weren't cast (the GOP wants the votes not casted to count as a "no").
My opinion, well it depends on the interruption of democratic process. I haven't heard of a democratic process where someone who decides not to vote has their vote still count. But I also don't think anyone should be forced to join a union. So it's more or less an issue of Semitics.

First, The GOP want the rules left as they were. So democrats decided the issue of unionizing federals employees was more important then revenue.

Its that simple.

So it gets down to either a democratic voting process that has been practiced in all other sectors or being anti-union at the cost of 1.5 billion being lost from our country's treasury and the loss of thousands of jobs. Sometimes people get a little carried away, don't they?

 

[saveliberty]

All of this grandstanding by the far right is adding to the deficit. By the time this whole thing is done there will be a net loss of a at least billion dollars. But hey, the US can afford that.
The GOP House wanted to save $200 million, well now the cost has of that stand has gone over the $200 million they wanted to save! Also, the GOP ran on jobs, jobs, jobs in 2010 and now they are causing the loss of jobs, not just in the public sector but also in the private sector. Not only that, they are hurting struggling construction companies. So much for being pro-business.
Well done GOP, well done.

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

What is with the left's continual cry for compromise? Cut less please, is still not helping our credit rating without twice what is proposed. Agreeing to vote on a balanced budget amendment you plan on rejecting is not compromise, but a forgone conclusion. Raising taxes might have been acceptable, but the Democrats didn't rush in and suggest it go exclusively to payoff the debt now did they? For a bunch of partisans who didn't bring forth a plan and have rejected proposals for six months they have no room to grouse.

 

[Douger]

Lahood can task funds anywhere he wants form the dept. of transportation cine like you know, the FAA is in the dept. of Transportation.

?

So is the US Coast Guard.

 

[mudwhistle]

This is the real story.

FAA braces for partial shutdown

By Pete Kasperowicz - 07/22/11 01:02 PM ET

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is expected to furlough about 4,000 of its employees on Saturday, as the Senate on Friday failed to approve a controversial House-passed extension of taxes that help fund the FAA.

Those taxes expire at midnight Friday, and FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt has already warned that without an extension, furloughs would start Saturday.

"We are going to be forced to furlough valuable FAA employees unless this situation is resolved quickly," Babbitt said earlier in the week. "These employees do everything from getting money out the door for airport construction projects to airport safety planning and NextGen research."

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has stressed that essential personnel related to airport and air safety would not be cut. "I want to reassure the flying public that, during this period, safety will not be compromised," he said.

This week, Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) said the partial shutdown would halt all activities funded out of four accounts. This includes a $3.5 billion fund for infrastructure projects that he said supports 150,000 jobs per year.

Rockefeller also said the FAA estimates it could operate air traffic and support services through mid-August, but said operating this way would likely require the FAA to reduce services to smaller regions so it can focus on "primary traffic."

Despite LaHood's statement, Rockefeller added that operating this way can quickly have safety implications, and also slows technology upgrades.

The House on Wednesday approved an extension of FAA taxes until Sept. 16, but that extension included language that would prohibit federal subsidies from going to three small airports in Montana, Nevada and New Mexico because tickets there are subsidized at more than $1,000 per ticket.

The House extension includes language eliminating subsidies to 10 small airports because they are within 90 miles of a medium or large airport. However, this language is also in a Senate-passed bill.

As a result, House Republicans argued Wednesday that the failure of the Senate to take up the House bill by Friday would mean a partial FAA shutdown would be the fault of Democrats who are protesting the addition of language that affects just three small airports.

"It will be the responsibility of the other body who does not take this up and pass it," House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman John Mica (R-Fla.) said. "They will be furloughing people and putting people out of jobs."

Mica said Friday that it is "unbelievable" that the Senate left Washington without extending FAA taxes. "In light of the nation’s pending financial disaster and soaring deficits, they couldn't find a way to cut even a few million dollars by accepting this minor request to reduce outlandish subsidies," he said.

LINK

FAA braces for partial shutdown - The Hill's Floor Action

 

[Full-Auto]

First of all I was wrong about the cuts the GOP wanted to make, it was for 16.5 million and already $200 million has been lost. By the time Congress gets back to work the cost of this stand off will be $1.5 billion. That's the math.
Now the unionizing thing. The unions want airline and railroad employees to conform to the voting procedures that everyone else uses and a format approved last year by the National Mediation Board. They want all the votes that were cast to count but not to count votes that weren't cast (the GOP wants the votes not casted to count as a "no").
My opinion, well it depends on the interruption of democratic process. I haven't heard of a democratic process where someone who decides not to vote has their vote still count. But I also don't think anyone should be forced to join a union. So it's more or less an issue of Semitics.

First, The GOP want the rules left as they were. So democrats decided the issue of unionizing federals employees was more important then revenue.

Its that simple.

So it gets down to either a democratic voting process that has been practiced in all other sectors or being anti-union at the cost of 1.5 billion being lost from our country's treasury and the loss of thousands of jobs. Sometimes people get a little carried away, don't they?

Load the board with unionistas and you get the current result. The house bill is in the senate. Why havent they taken it up, amended and sent it back?

 

[saveliberty]

Democrats to FAA: Forcing you to have a union and maintaining it are more important to us then your jobs.