GOP superdelegates: It's over, Romney is nominee

[DaGoose]

It's over, and Mitt Romney is going to be the GOP nominee for president.

Bob Bennett of Ohio was more blunt.

"Look, Gov. Romney's going to be the nominee, and he's going to have enough votes," said Bennett, who is publicly neutral but said he supported Romney four years ago.

GOP superdelegates: It's over, Romney is nominee - Yahoo! News

So it looks like the GOP tree is done being shaken and Mitt Romney is now considered the top man for the job of toppling President Obama.

The GOP dug deep and has decided that Mitt Romney best fits who they are as a party and best represents the conservative voters.

 

[RightWingFerret]

Something to keep in mind, regardless of who Romney chooses for VP, odds are he will jump another 4/5/6 points in the poll against Obama. Although alot of republicans/conservatives aren't 100% thrilled over Romney, they will most likely be very happy to see either McDonnell or Ryan as VP. Whomever is VP will be seen as future President. Just like if Rubio is VP, we can plan on seeing Rubio win in 2016 (assuming Romney passes the torch, he will probably retire by then).......lets just wait and see what happens, but hope Romney doesn't wait too long to choose,,,

 

[JoeB131]

Something to keep in mind, regardless of who Romney chooses for VP, odds are he will jump another 4/5/6 points in the poll against Obama. Although alot of republicans/conservatives aren't 100% thrilled over Romney, they will most likely be very happy to see either McDonnell or Ryan as VP. Whomever is VP will be seen as future President. Just like if Rubio is VP, we can plan on seeing Rubio win in 2016 (assuming Romney passes the torch, he will probably retire by then).......lets just wait and see what happens, but hope Romney doesn't wait too long to choose,,,

Ummm, not really.

Usually, they announce the Veep Pick around the convention, and teh nominee gets a slight bump because that's all people talk about for a while, and that's when folks most seriously consider it.

For instance, when McCain picked Palin, he got a slight boost up, but quickly sank down again by the end of September.

I should also point out that only two sitting Vice Presidents have gotten elected in their own right in our entire history. Martin Van Buren and George H. Bush.

More to the point, I just don't see any Veep pick that is going to resolve Romney's major problems. - Weird religion, weaselly flip-flopping, slimy business practices, dog torture.

Getting down to cases -

Rubio- Thin resume, has a foreclosure and a bankruptcy in his file. Also lied about his parents and why they left Cuba. Palin with a Tan. Nominating a Cuban-American is not going to help Romney with Mexican-Americans, which is where he'll need the help in swing states.

McConnell- A non-starter after he got hip deep in the whole trans-vaginal ultrasound controversy.

Ryan- Are you kidding? Seriously? Now, I repsect the fact that Ryan is one of the few guys who is talking openly about what we are going to need to do to get solvent, but that just about opens the door to the "He wants to starve granny" commercials Obama wants to run so badly.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It's over, and Mitt Romney is going to be the GOP nominee for president.

Bob Bennett of Ohio was more blunt.

"Look, Gov. Romney's going to be the nominee, and he's going to have enough votes," said Bennett, who is publicly neutral but said he supported Romney four years ago.

GOP superdelegates: It's over, Romney is nominee - Yahoo! News

So it looks like the GOP tree is done being shaken and Mitt Romney is now considered the top man for the job of toppling President Obama.

The GOP dug deep and has decided that Mitt Romney best fits who they are as a party and best represents the conservative voters.

Romney is a republican through and through.


there just are not enough fiscal and Constitutional conservatives to push the agenda.


this will be Clintons 6th term.

 

[Katzndogz]

Rubio isn't interested, but it sure would be great to see democrats attacking him because he's hisipanic. Palin was easy because women are easily led against women, hispanics not so much.

 

[Seawytch]

Rubio isn't interested, but it sure would be great to see democrats attacking him because he's hisipanic. Palin was easy because women are easily led against women, hispanics not so much.

Nobody would need to attack him for his race. They would attack him for his awful policy choices...like the Rubio/Blunt amendment.

Being Hispanic wouldn't help him or Romney....he's Cuban (and if you don't think that matters, you haven't been paying attention)

I hope he picks the zombie eyed granny starver...

 

[Dragon]

For instance, when McCain picked Palin, he got a slight boost up, but quickly sank down again by the end of September.

Even more tellingly, Walter Mondale briefly pulled ahead of Ronald Reagan in the polls after the 1984 Democratic Convention.

I remember the Palin boost. I remember that it was almost all attributable to a surge in support from older women, which lasted until Palin opened her mouth.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Up to some months ago, I did not think that a Mormon could be the nominee of a party, much less the social jerkoff far right religious conservatives' candidate. Maybe world peace is possible.

 

[JoeB131]

Up to some months ago, I did not think that a Mormon could be the nominee of a party, much less the social jerkoff far right religious conservatives' candidate. Maybe world peace is possible.

Romney is the nominee fully on the basis of Blue State delegates from states he has no real chance of carrying in November. That just shows the flaw in the system that allows a guy with only 37% support to become the nominee.

He's going to lose to Obama and lose badly.

Where you been, Jakey, I missed you, man!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hi, JoeB/caaaammmmpppppbeeeellllll! How you doing? Romney has an uphill battle, for sure. I remember when you said he could not get the nomination, and you were working your social libertarian butt off for everybody but Romney. Any of the others -- particularly Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum would not have gotten 41% of the general vote. So time will tell about Romney.

 

[JoeB131]

Hi, JoeB/caaaammmmpppppbeeeellllll! How you doing? Romney has an uphill battle, for sure. I remember when you said he could not get the nomination, and you were working your social libertarian butt off for everybody but Romney. Any of the others -- particularly Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum would not have gotten 41% of the general vote. So time will tell about Romney.

Neither will Romney....

I said that he wouldn't get the nomination without major league cheating by the establishment, and that's what happened.

So I'm not sure what your point is.

But honestly, you are now forcing me to support Obama in the fall... and probably a lot of other people who would have voted for a decent GOP candidate but won't support this slug.

Honestly, it's Bob Dole all over again... without the dignity.

 

[Trajan]

For instance, when McCain picked Palin, he got a slight boost up, but quickly sank down again by the end of September.

Even more tellingly, Walter Mondale briefly pulled ahead of Ronald Reagan in the polls after the 1984 Democratic Convention.

I remember the Palin boost. I remember that it was almost all attributable to a surge in support from older women, which lasted until Palin opened her mouth.

actually it was the economy finally crashing but carry on with the PDS.

 

[Dot Com]

This is turning out to be really interesting.

 

[JoeB131]

For instance, when McCain picked Palin, he got a slight boost up, but quickly sank down again by the end of September.

Even more tellingly, Walter Mondale briefly pulled ahead of Ronald Reagan in the polls after the 1984 Democratic Convention.

I remember the Palin boost. I remember that it was almost all attributable to a surge in support from older women, which lasted until Palin opened her mouth.

actually it was the economy finally crashing but carry on with the PDS.

I always thought Palin was kind of a wash. She was never as helpful or hurtful as people made her out to be. Although I did have at least one person, a lady in her 60's, tell me she didn't vote for McCain because she didn't like Palin.

I think the bigger problem the GOP has is that the Demographics have changed. The GOP has not won the popular vote for president convincingly since 1988. The key groups have tuned them out.

They lost outright in 92, 96, and 08, lost the popular vote in 2000 (only to be saved by the electoral college and Judicial mischeif) and in 2004, barely won with an incumbant wartime president, a decent economy and a weak challenger.

Until they stop alienating women and start winning over hispanics, things are going to only get worse for the GOP, not better.

 

[Trajan]

Even more tellingly, Walter Mondale briefly pulled ahead of Ronald Reagan in the polls after the 1984 Democratic Convention.

I remember the Palin boost. I remember that it was almost all attributable to a surge in support from older women, which lasted until Palin opened her mouth.

actually it was the economy finally crashing but carry on with the PDS.

I always thought Palin was kind of a wash. She was never as helpful or hurtful as people made her out to be. Although I did have at least one person, a lady in her 60's, tell me she didn't vote for McCain because she didn't like Palin.

I think the bigger problem the GOP has is that the Demographics have changed. The GOP has not won the popular vote for president convincingly since 1988. The key groups have tuned them out.

They lost outright in 92, 96, and 08, lost the popular vote in 2000 (only to be saved by the electoral college and Judicial mischeif) and in 2004, barely won with an incumbant wartime president, a decent economy and a weak challenger.

Until they stop alienating women and start winning over hispanics, things are going to only get worse for the GOP, not better.

they have been saying that for decades.

but the tipping point inmho is the withdrawal of responsibilities imparted to a huge swath of folks who,have been trained to- "want theirs"....FDR and Truman both said and I am paraphrasing that entitlements for lack of a better term ( Truman used 'dole') was a powerful narcotic. When upwards of 40% of the country don't pay net federal tax with whats being imparted at the same time, the story writes itself.

McCain was a poor candidate, people were tired , the economy crashed McCain lost few remaining wits he had, he had an opponent that was adept and articulate when it come to telling folks exactly what they wanted to hear and he we are.

Oh and Clinton only won with 43% in 92. Dole was a tired candidate and not very good and he had help in that , ( I didn't vote for him either in 96).

 

[JoeB131]

they have been saying that for decades.

but the tipping point inmho is the withdrawal of responsibilities imparted to a huge swath of folks who,have been trained to- "want theirs"....FDR and Truman both said and I am paraphrasing that entitlements for lack of a better term ( Truman used 'dole') was a powerful narcotic. When upwards of 40% of the country don't pay net federal tax with whats being imparted at the same time, the story writes itself.

I don't think it's a matter of people who "want theirs", it think it was a matter of people who want to survive. Under FDR and Truman, we had the development of a true middle class, through unionization, and the fact we were the only country to come out of the war mostly intact.

You blame the government "entitlement" mentality, but that's only half the story. The other half is a wealthy class that has sought to make itself richer by undoing the gains the middle class had. The best firewall against the European Socialism REAL conservatives are against is a solid middle class with skin in the game that is actually paying more in taxes. Replace that dole with a paycheck, you have automatic allies.

Replace that good paying union job with a McJob at Staples (like Mitt Romney did),and you have people who will be looking for Food Stamps, Section 8 and MedicAid.

McCain was a poor candidate, people were tired , the economy crashed McCain lost few remaining wits he had, he had an opponent that was adept and articulate when it come to telling folks exactly what they wanted to hear and he we are.

I think McCain was a mediocre candidate with a bad batch of goods to sell. No one could sensibly argue in 2008 that what we had been doing for the past decade was a good idea.

Oh and Clinton only won with 43% in 92. Dole was a tired candidate and not very good and he had help in that , ( I didn't vote for him either in 96).

Clinton won with 43% in 1992, but when those Perot voters came home, they didn't come home to the Republicans, that's my point. The next four elections, Democrats got 49, 49.5, 49 and 53. 49 seems to be their floor now. The GOP got 43, 49, 51, and 45. Their floor or average is a lot lower.

That's the problem the GOP needs to fix. And Romney ain't the guy whose going to do it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hi, JoeB/caaaammmmpppppbeeeellllll! How you doing? Romney has an uphill battle, for sure. I remember when you said he could not get the nomination, and you were working your social libertarian butt off for everybody but Romney. Any of the others -- particularly Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum would not have gotten 41% of the general vote. So time will tell about Romney.

Neither will Romney....

I said that he wouldn't get the nomination without major league cheating by the establishment, and that's what happened.

So I'm not sure what your point is.

But honestly, you are now forcing me to support Obama in the fall... and probably a lot of other people who would have voted for a decent GOP candidate but won't support this slug.

Honestly, it's Bob Dole all over again... without the dignity.

You can't tell the truth to save your soul, can you? You were voting for Obama anyway. Your right, of course, to do so, but your lies have outed by so many folks so often, you are merely here for grins and chuckles.

 

[JoeB131]

Hi, JoeB/caaaammmmpppppbeeeellllll! How you doing? Romney has an uphill battle, for sure. I remember when you said he could not get the nomination, and you were working your social libertarian butt off for everybody but Romney. Any of the others -- particularly Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum would not have gotten 41% of the general vote. So time will tell about Romney.

Neither will Romney....

I said that he wouldn't get the nomination without major league cheating by the establishment, and that's what happened.

So I'm not sure what your point is.

But honestly, you are now forcing me to support Obama in the fall... and probably a lot of other people who would have voted for a decent GOP candidate but won't support this slug.

Honestly, it's Bob Dole all over again... without the dignity.

You can't tell the truth to save your soul, can you? You were voting for Obama anyway. Your right, of course, to do so, but your lies have outed by so many folks so often, you are merely here for grins and chuckles.

The people "calling me out" are the same ones who think you're a liberal and a RINO.

I'm just a guy who hates Mormons....

 

[PredFan]

The good news is that that Theocrat Santorum is not going to win. The bad news is that we are stuck with Romney. And the even worse news, if not Romney then Obama!

 

[JoeB131]

The good news is that that Theocrat Santorum is not going to win. The bad news is that we are stuck with Romney. And the even worse news, if not Romney then Obama!

The Bad News is that you have Romney, a guy who couldn't beat John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Ted the Drunk or Devall Patrick. He did beat a non-entity named Shannon O'Brien once.

Not thrilled with Santorums Zealotry, but he was a guy who understood working folks and what the 1% was putting them through. Romney's a guy who thinks it's a crisis when no one has Grey Poupon.