GOP spending bill to kill 800,000 jobs

[starcraftzzz]

If all these programs pay for themselves why do we need taxpayers??

To pay for the initial costs in order to achieve the long term savings

well as far as head start is concerned the INITIAL costs have been covered so why do we still have to fund it if it pays for itself?? I'll wait.

The initial costs for past years have been funded not for future or present years. What are you going to ask next what color the sky is?

 

[Firehorse]

800,000 .... Heck a pub budget should kill that many jobs in DC alone

 

[Firehorse]

More on topic though ... The education budget WILL GET CUT ... Do the basic math people, 'unsustainable' means exactly that .... Now everyone likes to cry about teachers being fired, but in truth, it's not the teachers that will get the axe (the reality of education of the youth is true for everyone, not just Dems) ... It is the office staff, the school board staff, the yard janitorial staff ... Everyone BUT the actually educators that will be cut

Try to be a little more based in reality and a little less 'the sky is falling' please

 

[WillowTree]

To pay for the initial costs in order to achieve the long term savings

well as far as head start is concerned the INITIAL costs have been covered so why do we still have to fund it if it pays for itself?? I'll wait.

The initial costs for past years have been funded not for future or present years. What are you going to ask next what color the sky is?

so the term "initial costs" is totally meaningless to you. I see.

 

[WillowTree]

So if initial costs are ongoing then the programs do not in fact pay for themselves case closed.. game, set match.

 

[uscitizen]

Seems like I recall many saying that govt spending did not create jobs?

 

[Chris]

No incumbent president dating to 1956 has lost when unemployment fell over the two years leading up to his re-election contest.

And none has won when the rate rose.

Unemployment was 9.8 percent in November 2010.

Last month, seven months before Election Day, the rate was 8.1 percent.

 

[uscitizen]

More on topic though ... The education budget WILL GET CUT ... Do the basic math people, 'unsustainable' means exactly that .... Now everyone likes to cry about teachers being fired, but in truth, it's not the teachers that will get the axe (the reality of education of the youth is true for everyone, not just Dems) ... It is the office staff, the school board staff, the yard janitorial staff ... Everyone BUT the actually educators that will be cut

Try to be a little more based in reality and a little less 'the sky is falling' please

So cut extracurricular stuff like sports first.
the key word here is extra.

 

[Lovebears65]

Hey with all these teachers do you think MAYBE just Maybe it is because of all the unions and their demands is the reason why these teachers are being laid off. We can not afford this shit anymore . WAKE UP

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll147.xml
Education

Pell Grants: Slashes the maximum Pell Grant by $845 -- from the current maximum of $5,550 to $4,705. This GOP bill will lower the amount of aid that 9.4 million college students are projected to receive.
Head Start: 218,000 children will be immediately dropped from the Head Start program, due to the Republicans’ $1 billion cut. 55,000 teachers, teacher assistants and related staff would lose their jobs.
Title I: Federal support for K-12 education would be severely cut. Includes cuts of nearly $700 million in help in reading and math for disadvantaged children – meaning 2,400 schools serving 1 million disadvantaged children would lose funding. About 9,000 teachers and aides would be laid off.
Special Education: Reduces funding for Special Education by $558 million, resulting in more than 7,000 special education teachers and staff losing their jobs.
Job Training: Grants to states for job training would be slashed by $3.6 billion – hurting America’s ability to win the race for jobs and industry in the 21st century and cutting training for more than 200,000 Americans out of work through no fault of their own.

Innovation

National Science Foundation: 5,500 fewer researchers, compared to FY 2010 funding (and 20,000 fewer researchers, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) would be supported at the National Science Foundation – undermining America’s efforts at breakthrough basic research in science and engineering.
NIH: $1.6 billion in cuts, compared to FY 2010 funding (and $2.5 billion in cuts, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) for the National Institutes of Health. Such a severe cut would require NIH to reduce support for over 25,000 existing research grants and scale back promising clinical trials, representing a significant setback in research for such diseases as cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s.
Clean Energy Research: $1.7 billion in cuts, compared to FY 2010 funding (and $2.3 billion in cuts, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) in clean energy research – including slashing Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy programs and the Department of Energy’s Office of Science, which would significantly delay much-needed research in clean energy technology and cost thousands of clean energy jobs.
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST): Reduces funding for NIST, which promotes U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing the building blocks of technological advancements, by $162 million below FY 2010. This steep reduction could lead to construction halts and damage the Administration’s innovation initiatives.
Wall Street Reform: Jeopardizes the economic recovery by undercutting the implementation of the Wall Street Reform law, which is designed to protect consumers and prevent future taxpayer-funded bailouts, by cutting and hamstringing the funding of watchdog agencies charged with preventing future Bernie Madoff-type Ponzi schemes (CFTC & SEC) and of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Rebuilding America

Overall Infrastructure: Cuts key investments in rebuilding America, which will lead to the loss of more than 300,000 American jobs, primarily in the private sector.
High-Speed/Intercity Rail: Zeroes out funding for High Speed Rail Corridors and Intercity Passenger Rail Services, including rescinding $2.5 billion in high-speed rail projects that have already been awarded.
Clean Water Infrastructure: 750 fewer wastewater and drinking water projects that communities can finance with federal assistance, leading to the loss of nearly 40,000 American jobs.
TIGER Surface Transportation Projects: A loss of 25,000 new construction jobs and the cancellation of 76 projects in 40 states for TIGER surface transportation projects.
Air Traffic Control: $234 million in cuts in the efforts to improve our nation’s air traffic control system.

Public Safety

Homeland Security Grants: Reduces funding for FEMA State and Local Programs by $1.4 billion, which will significantly cut funding to support port and transit security and funding to hire first responders.
Border Security Technology: Funding for border security technology is cut by about $250 million – slowing efforts to better secure the border with new and much-needed border surveillance technologies.
Food Safety: USDA food safety inspections would be cut by $88 million – making it impossible to conduct daily inspections of meat and poultry plants. This would force many meat and poultry plants to shut down for more than a month in 2011, resulting in estimated economic losses of up to $11 billion.

Impact on Those Who Are Hurting Most

Nutrition Assistance: The WIC nutrition assistance program would be cut by more than $740 million, compared to the FY 2010 level – which would require thousands of parents, pregnant mothers, and children to be dropped from the program.
Low-Income Energy Assistance: Low-Income Home Energy Assistance (LIHEAP) would be cut by almost $400 million – leaving out in the cold many of the seniors and families with children in need of help in paying high energy bills.
Title X: Title X is eliminated, which provides life-saving health services, including HIV testing, cancer screening, blood-pressure testing, and contraceptive services, for more than 5 million low-income women, two-thirds of whom are uninsured.
Housing for Homeless Veterans: Eliminates a program of housing vouchers for homeless veterans. In January 2009, more than 75,000 veterans were homeless and over the course of the year nearly twice that many (136,000) spent at least one night in a homeless shelter.

 

[Lovebears65]

More on topic though ... The education budget WILL GET CUT ... Do the basic math people, 'unsustainable' means exactly that .... Now everyone likes to cry about teachers being fired, but in truth, it's not the teachers that will get the axe (the reality of education of the youth is true for everyone, not just Dems) ... It is the office staff, the school board staff, the yard janitorial staff ... Everyone BUT the actually educators that will be cut

Try to be a little more based in reality and a little less 'the sky is falling' please

So cut extracurricular stuff like sports first.
the key word here is extra.

they already have cut most of the extracurricular in FLA /GA

 

[Lovebears65]

No incumbent president dating to 1956 has lost when unemployment fell over the two years leading up to his re-election contest.

And none has won when the rate rose.

Unemployment was 9.8 percent in November 2010.

Last month, seven months before Election Day, the rate was 8.1 percent.

and its a false number .. I know it and most of AMERICA knows it but you are too stupid and believe your Dear Leader

 

[Firehorse]

Where the actually cuts will take place rests in the hands of the school boards across America ... Not in the white house

 

[gallantwarrior]

If all these programs pay for themselves why do we need taxpayers??

To pay for the initial costs in order to achieve the long term savings

You mean, kinda like not increasing expenditures as much as desired constituted "cuts"?

 

[uscitizen]

More on topic though ... The education budget WILL GET CUT ... Do the basic math people, 'unsustainable' means exactly that .... Now everyone likes to cry about teachers being fired, but in truth, it's not the teachers that will get the axe (the reality of education of the youth is true for everyone, not just Dems) ... It is the office staff, the school board staff, the yard janitorial staff ... Everyone BUT the actually educators that will be cut

Try to be a little more based in reality and a little less 'the sky is falling' please

So cut extracurricular stuff like sports first.
the key word here is extra.

they already have cut most of the extracurricular in FLA /GA

so no more footbal, baseball, basketball, etc?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll147.xml
Education

Pell Grants: Slashes the maximum Pell Grant by $845 -- from the current maximum of $5,550 to $4,705. This GOP bill will lower the amount of aid that 9.4 million college students are projected to receive.
Head Start: 218,000 children will be immediately dropped from the Head Start program, due to the Republicans’ $1 billion cut. 55,000 teachers, teacher assistants and related staff would lose their jobs.
Title I: Federal support for K-12 education would be severely cut. Includes cuts of nearly $700 million in help in reading and math for disadvantaged children – meaning 2,400 schools serving 1 million disadvantaged children would lose funding. About 9,000 teachers and aides would be laid off.
Special Education: Reduces funding for Special Education by $558 million, resulting in more than 7,000 special education teachers and staff losing their jobs.
Job Training: Grants to states for job training would be slashed by $3.6 billion – hurting America’s ability to win the race for jobs and industry in the 21st century and cutting training for more than 200,000 Americans out of work through no fault of their own.

Innovation

National Science Foundation: 5,500 fewer researchers, compared to FY 2010 funding (and 20,000 fewer researchers, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) would be supported at the National Science Foundation – undermining America’s efforts at breakthrough basic research in science and engineering.
NIH: $1.6 billion in cuts, compared to FY 2010 funding (and $2.5 billion in cuts, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) for the National Institutes of Health. Such a severe cut would require NIH to reduce support for over 25,000 existing research grants and scale back promising clinical trials, representing a significant setback in research for such diseases as cancer, diabetes, and Alzheimer’s.
Clean Energy Research: $1.7 billion in cuts, compared to FY 2010 funding (and $2.3 billion in cuts, compared to President’s FY 2011 request) in clean energy research – including slashing Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy programs and the Department of Energy’s Office of Science, which would significantly delay much-needed research in clean energy technology and cost thousands of clean energy jobs.
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST): Reduces funding for NIST, which promotes U.S. innovation and industrial competitiveness by advancing the building blocks of technological advancements, by $162 million below FY 2010. This steep reduction could lead to construction halts and damage the Administration’s innovation initiatives.
Wall Street Reform: Jeopardizes the economic recovery by undercutting the implementation of the Wall Street Reform law, which is designed to protect consumers and prevent future taxpayer-funded bailouts, by cutting and hamstringing the funding of watchdog agencies charged with preventing future Bernie Madoff-type Ponzi schemes (CFTC & SEC) and of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Rebuilding America

Overall Infrastructure: Cuts key investments in rebuilding America, which will lead to the loss of more than 300,000 American jobs, primarily in the private sector.
High-Speed/Intercity Rail: Zeroes out funding for High Speed Rail Corridors and Intercity Passenger Rail Services, including rescinding $2.5 billion in high-speed rail projects that have already been awarded.
Clean Water Infrastructure: 750 fewer wastewater and drinking water projects that communities can finance with federal assistance, leading to the loss of nearly 40,000 American jobs.
TIGER Surface Transportation Projects: A loss of 25,000 new construction jobs and the cancellation of 76 projects in 40 states for TIGER surface transportation projects.
Air Traffic Control: $234 million in cuts in the efforts to improve our nation’s air traffic control system.

Public Safety

Homeland Security Grants: Reduces funding for FEMA State and Local Programs by $1.4 billion, which will significantly cut funding to support port and transit security and funding to hire first responders.
Border Security Technology: Funding for border security technology is cut by about $250 million – slowing efforts to better secure the border with new and much-needed border surveillance technologies.
Food Safety: USDA food safety inspections would be cut by $88 million – making it impossible to conduct daily inspections of meat and poultry plants. This would force many meat and poultry plants to shut down for more than a month in 2011, resulting in estimated economic losses of up to $11 billion.

Impact on Those Who Are Hurting Most

Nutrition Assistance: The WIC nutrition assistance program would be cut by more than $740 million, compared to the FY 2010 level – which would require thousands of parents, pregnant mothers, and children to be dropped from the program.
Low-Income Energy Assistance: Low-Income Home Energy Assistance (LIHEAP) would be cut by almost $400 million – leaving out in the cold many of the seniors and families with children in need of help in paying high energy bills.
Title X: Title X is eliminated, which provides life-saving health services, including HIV testing, cancer screening, blood-pressure testing, and contraceptive services, for more than 5 million low-income women, two-thirds of whom are uninsured.
Housing for Homeless Veterans: Eliminates a program of housing vouchers for homeless veterans. In January 2009, more than 75,000 veterans were homeless and over the course of the year nearly twice that many (136,000) spent at least one night in a homeless shelter.

That's peanuts compared to obama's 4 million jobs.

 

[Gadawg73]

Pell grants should be cut to zero.
Most abused government program out there. No accounting of the drop out rate as many that get their first check never attend class.
Not my job to pay to educate someone else's kids.

 

[SniperFire]

To listen to the non-stop whining by lefties you would think republicans dominated the entire government. What has Barry Hussein done for you lately? Bulletin for the left: the do-nothing senate has a say and the president has to sign it. That's the way the system works.

yep stating how the GOP kill thousadns of jobs is whining

Harry Reid has refused to do a budget for three years now.

There is nothing the House can do.

 

[starcraftzzz]

To listen to the non-stop whining by lefties you would think republicans dominated the entire government. What has Barry Hussein done for you lately? Bulletin for the left: the do-nothing senate has a say and the president has to sign it. That's the way the system works.

yep stating how the GOP kill thousadns of jobs is whining

Harry Reid has refused to do a budget for three years now.

There is nothing the House can do.

God you are so stupid that you think the Federal government has not spent any money in 3 years

 

[Firehorse]

No incumbent president dating to 1956 has lost when unemployment fell over the two years leading up to his re-election contest.

And none has won when the rate rose.

Unemployment was 9.8 percent in November 2010.

Last month, seven months before Election Day, the rate was 8.1 percent.

Awwww, isn't he precious, bless your heart, run on back to the playground sweetie, this is adult talk

 

[SniperFire]

yep stating how the GOP kill thousadns of jobs is whining

Harry Reid has refused to do a budget for three years now.

There is nothing the House can do.

God you are so stupid that you think the Federal government has not spent any money in 3 years

Let's engage in the budget process and work it out.

oh wait


Harry Reid refuses to permit America to do budgets, and America careens out of control because of it.