GOP Slaps the EPA upside the head

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    Here you go. Enjoy the read there's a lot of it as this is quite literally the tip of the iceberg. The funny thing is, now if you go to the CARB website they proclaim to the heavens how they were instrumental in removing it from gasoline in CA. However, when you go back you see they were THE PRIMARY driver to get it added to the gasoline. To make things worse. They were doing it at the behest of Chevron.

    You see Chevron had to pay large quantities of money to dispose of the MTBE which was a by-product of the refining process. They were able to convince some worthless bureaucrats in Sacramento that adding MTBE to the gas would be a great idea. That way Chevron got to get paid for something that they had had to pay to get rid of. The first thing up is a LA Times article from 1997 when Chevron finally had to start admitting that it was a terribly destructive additive. I have highlighted the folks attempting to KEEP it in the fuel....





    Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE

    California and the West

    Environment: Company says the agent does little to reduce air pollution and is a threat to water supplies.

    December 03, 1997|DAN MORAIN | TIMES STAFF WRITER

    SACRAMENTO — In a significant reversal, Chevron Corp. and a leading oil industry group are taking steps to stop using a key additive in gasoline that helps cut smog, oil company executives said Tuesday.

    Just a few months ago, the oil industry, the California Air Resources Board and even some environmentalists mounted a major lobbying effort against legislation to ban the additive MTBE.
    Tuesday's statements come amid mounting concern that although MTBE may help clean California's air, it is leaking from gasoline storage tanks, mixing with ground water and threatening to pollute drinking water.

    Doug Henderson, executive director of the Glendale-based Western States Petroleum Assn., said Tuesday that his group is backing federal legislation by Rep. Brian P. Bilbray (R-San Diego) that would permit California refiners to omit MTBE from gasoline, so long as clean air standards still can be met.

    "The proclamations about the dangers of MTBE are exaggerated, but we don't want to be complacent about any [water] contamination," said Henderson, whose group represents major oil firms."




    Chevron Seeks to Stop Using Additive MTBE - Los Angeles Times

    Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether (MTBE) | US EPA

    MTBE

    MTBE Definition Page

    MTBE in Drinking Water
     
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    You have not established ANY of your claims. What you emote does not qualify as proof.

    BTW, didn't Gov. Pete Wilson apply political pressure to CARB to pass the MTBE regulation?
     
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    Hey, Toby, we conservatives have been following this matter for months. You are staggeringly ignorant. That's all. See Westfall's post.
     
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    why are you so shortsighted? The EPA is not to protect jobs. That implies they are protecting industry. They are protecting humans from themselves, from destroying the resource that brings us life: the earth. Don't be so godamn arrogant in terms of your attitude towards this Earth. The EPA is in bed the major corporations, yet you act like they hinder them. You obviously have no idea of the corruption that is inherent in helping the major, big polluters. All you worry about is human jobs. We are not everything. Our Earth is more important, so that generations to come can enjoy it.
     
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    The EPA's "dust" regulation is now firmly parked in the same bin with, "Obama took a trip costing 200 million dollars a day" and "Freddie/Fannie was behind the economic meltdown" and "Obama wanted to let terrorists go free in your backyard".
     
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    Then why did you allow the California version of the EPA to poison all those water wells? That killed far more critters then bad quality air ever did. And a hell of a lot quicker as well.
     
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    Got no problem slapping the EPA up side the head now and then, but what's needed is a well timed kick in the nuts once in a while.
     
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    It is the idiot EPA and their stupid regulations that is stiffling the job market. Goo for the GOP!!!!
     
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    EPA is yet another government entity we don't need. Along with the dept of Edumacation.
     
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    ED currently administers a budget of $69.9 billion in discretionary appropriations (including discretionary Pell Grant funding) under the FY 2011 Continuing Resolution annualized level and operates programs that touch on every area and level of education. The Department's elementary and secondary programs annually serve nearly 14,000 school districts and approximately 56 million students attending some 99,000 public schools and 34,000 private schools. Department programs also provide grant, loan, and work-study assistance to more than 15 million postsecondary students.
    U.S. Department of Education Budget Office

    The $382 billion F-35 Joint Strike fighter program may well be the largest single global defense program in history. This major multinational program is intended to produce an “affordably stealthy”
    F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: 2009-2010

    Lets put this in a little perspective here, the Department of Educations budget is less than that of just one single DOD aircraft acquisition program and more so it is less so by far. If the opinion is to get rid of the Department of Education and give it back to the states who already have budget issues themselves then the question becomes, if we as a nation wish to compete in an ever increasing technology marketplace that requires engineers, doctors, math disciplines, computer science. and many other disciplines, then are we citizens willing to accept local tax hikes in our property taxes to pay for our schooling, or are we willing to accept a second class status. The budget of the Department of Education is a small price to pay for the return we get on educating our children and perhaps rather than advocate for its demise in order to save money the best approach would be to advocate that they work smarter and advocate for lowering the cost of educating our children.
     

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