GOP is BROKEN, Social Conservatives need to use the next 4 years to build a new party

[JakeStarkey]

If we can't run them out, we will leave them with 8% of the electorate, and the Charles_Mains and the responsible fiscal conservatives and responsible libertarians with no soc cons or neo-econs will create a new party. It will be respectable out of the gate and will be nationally competitive within in two election cycles.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just two, bubby, then toddle along: EPA, price and wage controls.

Neither are on your side, Jim.

1. Nixon was liberal by 1972, Reagan and Bush could not even run today because of their big government policies.

2. Gay marriage won four times last night in the states.

3. The social conservative movement will die out as you people grow older, die, and your children and grand children turn back to traditional Christianity.

4. Get out, Jim, get out if you won't change.

Nixon a liberal?
Roll me 1 out of your bag.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Republicans lost because enough idiots still hold out HOPE the dumbfuck in the White House is really, really, really going to turn it around this time after fucking things up for 4 years.

Those voters suffer from the beaten wife syndrome where they keep believing he is going to change tomorrow and things will get better.

Also, they don't want to be seen as racists in their tiny minds for kicking a black man to the curb....oh the horror.

Some idiot voters don't mind the situation they are in since Obamination just keeps extending their welfare benefits, so they just keep voting for him. Eventually the system will collapse and they are fucked.

 

[whitehall]

Four years of liberal run-away tyranny and non-stop media support doesn't break a political party. It only makes it stronger. My guess is that the media personalities will get tired of their agenda and start telling the truth in the next four years and the truth is what scares the Hussein administration the most.

 

[Charles_Main]

By the Time anyone gets another party off the ground, the Crazy Left wing assholes running the Dem Party and this country will have completed it's destruction.

There simply is will for real Fiscal Sanity. None of them give a fuck about what happens in the long run.

 

[Charles_Main]

Four years of liberal run-away tyranny and non-stop media support doesn't break a political party. It only makes it stronger. My guess is that the media personalities will get tired of their agenda and start telling the truth in the next four years and the truth is what scares the Hussein administration the most.

Yeah right, The Liberal Media is not going to change, they just scored a Huge Victory, Against all odds they re-elected Obama.

 

[Gadawg73]

Just two, bubby, then toddle along: EPA, price and wage controls.

Neither are on your side, Jim.

1. Nixon was liberal by 1972, Reagan and Bush could not even run today because of their big government policies.

2. Gay marriage won four times last night in the states.

3. The social conservative movement will die out as you people grow older, die, and your children and grand children turn back to traditional Christianity.

4. Get out, Jim, get out if you won't change.

Nixon a liberal?
Roll me 1 out of your bag.

So liberals only support the EPA?
Wage and price controls were all part of the gold standard being killed and Fed Chairman Arthur Burns' kooky monetary policies.
Like liberal policies it was a massive failure.
Burns was hardly a liberal and Fed policy was anything but that.

 

[squeeze berry]

libs seem to be quite hysterical about the demise of the GOP

on the on hand they are thrilled about having a one party system and on the other hand they are giving their sage advice on how to " keep it alive"


I have heard this all before, right before Reagan took office.

Obama and the dems will fuck up and the GOP will win the senate and gain in the house and a GOPer will be president in 2016.

Then we will start all over again.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Reality it is going to take another 4 years of people losing jobs, Iran getting nukes, etc to wake people up.

There are plenty of idiots in this country that live in their own bubble and they are clueless to the economic mess we have and the fiscal mess of the federal government. One morning they will wake up and it will hit them in the face like say the Stock Market crashes and all their money is gone.

Oh, but Obamination will blame Bush...and Romney.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Far righties, read this quietly and think: The GOP lost because we act like a 1950 electorate of 54% American public of white males when in fact white males make up 32% of the electorate today.

Either we change, or we go into the sunset.

 

[Cowman]

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I'd love to see the hardcore social conservatives break off and form their own party. It would not hurt the remaining party, because losing the social conservatives would make the party far more attractive to moderates and even many Democrats.

By all means, please do it.

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I could see myself occasionally voting for a fiscal conservative NON-LUNATIC.

I mean, there's a time and a place for that sort of thing, when the economy recovers.

 

[squeeze berry]

Reality it is going to take another 4 years of people losing jobs, Iran getting nukes, etc to wake people up.

There are plenty of idiots in this country that live in their own bubble and they are clueless to the economic mess we have and the fiscal mess of the federal government. One morning they will wake up and it will hit them in the face like say the Stock Market crashes and all their money is gone.

Oh, but Obamination will blame Bush...and Romney.

wait until the working class gets hit with a special tax to buy health insurance for freeloaders

 

[Staidhup]

The party needs to return to it's base of strong constitutional interpretation, defense, tight fiscal policy, law and order, and move away from the compassionate progressive conservative garbage HW Bush brought to the dance.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It needs to turn away from soc conservative cultural control, it needs to turn away from neo-con imperialism, it needs to turn away from hate, it needs to reach out to women and minorities, and it needs to return to fiscal sanity.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In general polling 45% of the public sellf-identified as conservative, libs 20% and moderates 35%, while party self-ID went about 35% Dem and 35% GOP, but the poll samples were getting responses from 41% Dems and only 30% GOP.

About 22% of self-identifying conservatives refused to choose Romney and the final vote reflected that.

The GOP cannot win without the enthusiastic support of the social conservatives as ever election since 1972 has proven. Every GOP social moderate (ie would not campaign leading the way on conservative social issues) has lost since 72: Ford, Bush the Elder once exposed, Dole, McCain and now Romney. Social conservative GOP leaders that got out there on these issues win starting with Nixon in 72, then Reagan, Bush the Elder when posing as a soc-con, both W Bush efforts.

But now the RINO GOP elite have cemented control of the GOP with the ability of the RNC to change party rules as they want whenever they want for whatever reason that they want. This means social conservatives can never again get a fair hearing in the GOP.

So it is time for social conservatives to take a 'Long March' approach and rebuild a winning foundation for victory in the future as today is predictably lost. The conservatives in Canada did it and American soc-cons can to.

Teach your young to identify as *Christian* Americans instead of plain ole vanilla Americans and contrast the differences. Send your kids to privates school or home school them. Stop accepting the lesser of two evils (you still wind up with evil and that is not acceptable) and start pushing local and state issues while working within the GOP for now. Let your allies know privately that a split is coming in the near future and it will have to be a big bold move away from the GOP once things are set.

You will lose elections for the next twenty years, but thats OK. There is no real choice between Democrats and Republicans on the important issues now anyway.

But time is on your side. Demographics are on your side. The Dems will hold power long enough that their many factions will fall away from each other as the specter of the 'racist' GOP taking power and returning them to chains fades away. Build coalitions with Christians among these disaffected minorities that consider themselves more Christianthan sectarian ethnic.

Eventually you will win as the Old Guard Establishment falls apart for lack of children, lack of new ideas and lack of patriotism.

Your time will come again...be patient and have faith.

So it is time for social conservatives to take a 'Long March' approach and rebuild a winning foundation for victory in the future as today is predictably lost. The conservatives in Canada did it and American soc-cons can to.

The snag here is no conservative in Canada would dream of ending that nation’s healthcare system, banning abortion, or criminalizing homosexuality.

Teach your young to identify as *Christian* Americans instead of plain ole vanilla Americans and contrast the differences.

The vast majority of liberals and progressive are Christian Americans as well; the right doesn’t have a monopoly on Christianity.

Demographics are on your side.

Actually not – not as long as conservatives and republican continue to seek to violate the due process rights of immigrants.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Yes, many of the idiots that voted for their black messiah yesterday are clueless the 1040EZ will have a part on it making them prove they have health insurance or to add a fine to their taxes.

2014 elections will blow up in the Democraps' faces.

Reality it is going to take another 4 years of people losing jobs, Iran getting nukes, etc to wake people up.

There are plenty of idiots in this country that live in their own bubble and they are clueless to the economic mess we have and the fiscal mess of the federal government. One morning they will wake up and it will hit them in the face like say the Stock Market crashes and all their money is gone.

Oh, but Obamination will blame Bush...and Romney.

wait until the working class gets hit with a special tax to buy health insurance for freeloaders

 

[Mac1958]

It needs to turn away from soc conservative cultural control, it needs to turn away from neo-con imperialism, it needs to turn away from hate, it needs to reach out to women and minorities, and it needs to return to fiscal sanity.

You COMMIE!



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[Avatar4321]

Best way to build a new party is to start by building up ourselves and our families.

 

[squeeze berry]

Yes, many of the idiots that voted for their black messiah yesterday are clueless the 1040EZ will have a part on it making them prove they have health insurance or to add a fine to their taxes.

2014 elections will blow up in the Democraps' faces.

Reality it is going to take another 4 years of people losing jobs, Iran getting nukes, etc to wake people up.

There are plenty of idiots in this country that live in their own bubble and they are clueless to the economic mess we have and the fiscal mess of the federal government. One morning they will wake up and it will hit them in the face like say the Stock Market crashes and all their money is gone.

Oh, but Obamination will blame Bush...and Romney.

wait until the working class gets hit with a special tax to buy health insurance for freeloaders

I'll bet if you have health insurance you still must pay a tax.

Remember, so many pay zero taxes already, where will the money come from?

You guesed it , the 57%

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hatred of the poor, which out number you, Squeeze, is not helpful to winning political victories.