GOP insider: Religion destroyed my party.

[Some Guy]

Because science involves facts.

Define "involves." Because a lot of things you probably believe to be absolute fact actually aren't. Science is much more about consensus than it is about fact. No one can prove natural selection, no one can prove that the universe started as an infinitesimally small particle before the big bang. But, you conduct experiments, publish results and consensus is achieved among prominent scientists. A lot of what we know today will be blown to shit someday as we learn more. People once thought the world was flat and that everything revolved around Earth.

But, i get where you're coming from. Science is the search for facts. For example: some people believe that a woman was created to give man a companion. But really, the male body develops from what essentially starts as a female body (X chromosome); there's no reason for a man to have nipples.

Hehe, nipples.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

GOP insider: Religion destroyed my party

This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who follows politics. This didn't happen overnight, and the destruction is far from over.

Theocracy Watch: Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party

WEll, to be fair, the american empire is over, and the USofA we think we know, is probably too

As soon as they turn away 5 million legal voters on election day, it is over as far as I am concerned

 

[Freewill]

Soon I will have a thesis printed on Salon that shows how democrats have passed a bill re instituting slavery. Of course it will be bill as "from and insider."

What a load of horse shit.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

Soon I will have a thesis printed on Salon that shows how democrats have passed a bill re instituting slavery. Of course it will be bill as "from and insider."

What a load of horse shit.

when you have a quote in your sig that is a proven lie, maybe you should rethink life

 

[Inthemiddle]

Because people practicing their faith....

You mean people practicing YOUR faith.

 

[Inthemiddle]

The problem isnt religion. The problem is ignoring religion.

You mean: The problem is people not following YOUR religion.

 

[Inthemiddle]

sensible Tea Partyers are replacing the neocons and crazy holy rollers....

Then why is it the only Tea Partiers we hear about are lunatics like Batshit Bachmann and Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell?

 

[Inthemiddle]

only 6% of scientists are republicans.

Why?

Because science involves facts.

where is that stat from? I know of several republican scientists and several christian scientists an several jewidsh scientists and some muslim scientists.

that's because the entire 6% statement is a total lie.

what do scientists think about religion? - los angeles times

according to a survey of members of the american assn. For the advancement of science, conducted by the pew research center in may and june this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in god or a higher power, while 41% say they do not.

Furthermore, scientists today are no less likely to believe in god than they were almost 100 years ago, when the scientific community was first polled on this issue. In 1914, 11 years before the scopes "monkey" trial and four decades before the discovery of the structure of dna, psychologist james leuba asked 1,000 u.s. Scientists about their views on god. He found the scientific community evenly divided, with 42% saying that they believed in a personal god and the same number saying they did not. Scientists have unearthed many important fossils since then, but they are, if anything, more likely to believe in god today.

Everything democrats say has to be checked because it is likely a lie.

wtf?

 

[Dot Com]

sensible Tea Partyers are replacing the neocons and crazy holy rollers....

Then why is it the only Tea Partiers we hear about are lunatics like Batshit Bachmann and Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell?

Don't forget West (TP-FL)

I think its because the crazier they are, the higher campaign contributions they can bring in. Thats a major reason LaTourette (R-OH) resigned the other day because the ability to raise money was more highly sought after than expertise & legislating

 

[bodecea]

Because people practicing their faith....

You mean people practicing YOUR faith.

Exactly.

 

[Political Junky]

"Goddamn it, John ... the Republicans are selling their soul to win elections ... Mark my word ... if and when these preachers get control of the party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem." -- Barry Goldwater as told to John Dean

Remember that Goldwater was far right wing in 1964, when he ran for president.
My how things have changed.

 

[JoeB131]

I see.

So Buchanan, Bush and Keyes are religious leaders.

Interesting.

Moronic, but interesting

NO, they are religious whackjobs, though. (Except Bush, he was just playing the idiots.)

the fact these people are even given a seat at the table, that we are having national supports for homophobic chicken resturants, shows just how far the crazy has infected the GOP.

so if someone disagrees with you they should not be given a seat at the table?


Nice...................

No, they don't deserve a seat at the table is they say, "My Imaginary Friend In the Sky says we should do it this way."

 

[JoeB131]

Only 6% of scientists are Republicans.

Why?

Because science involves facts.

Most of the greatest scientists were Christian you moron.

NO, they weren't...

And frankly, discovering the stuff that most grade school kids know today isn't impressive.

 

[Dot Com]

One of the only things I have ever agreed w/ Phil Gramm about:

Running for Preacher | Cato @ Liberty

Former Senator Phil Gramm’s 1996 run for the G.O.P. nomination was a colossal bellyflop, but he had at least one moment of glory. Pushed by Focus on the Family’s James Dobson to talk up values issues on the campaign, Gramm snarled: “I’m not running for preacher. I’m running for president.” How many of today’s candidates can tell the difference?

 

[Inthemiddle]

Science is much more about consensus than it is about fact.

No.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The results of this takeover are all around us: If the American people poll more like Iranians or Nigerians than Europeans or Canadians on questions of evolution, scriptural inerrancy, the presence of angels and demons, and so forth, it is due to the rise of the religious right, its insertion into the public sphere by the Republican Party, and the consequent normalizing of formerly reactionary beliefs. All around us now is a prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science. Politicized religion is the sheet anchor of the dreary forty-year-old culture wars.

Spot on, dreary indeed.

 

[JoeB131]

The results of this takeover are all around us: If the American people poll more like Iranians or Nigerians than Europeans or Canadians on questions of evolution, scriptural inerrancy, the presence of angels and demons, and so forth, it is due to the rise of the religious right, its insertion into the public sphere by the Republican Party, and the consequent normalizing of formerly reactionary beliefs. All around us now is a prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science. Politicized religion is the sheet anchor of the dreary forty-year-old culture wars.

Spot on, dreary indeed.

But as I've said, I think the Zealots are only half the problem.

They are Frankenstein's monster, but Wall Street are the Mad Doctors who think that they are the ones who can control the monster. Anyone familiar with Universal or Hammer Horror films know this never actually works out.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“…and the consequent normalizing of formerly reactionary beliefs.”

The above is particularly sad and disturbing, that there was a time when republicans were better than this.

 

[Bfgrn]

stupid republicans/rinos.......that's why the Tea Party is busy replacing them....

as for Obama's excessive regulations.....you need to wake up....

You need to wake up. You and the Heritage Foundation are anti-free market.

The Heritage Foundation is just a mouthpiece for big corporate money, with hard-right corporate conservative views. They are puppeteers pushing a radical agenda to remove, if possible, or significantly weaken, all government influence and regulation in the marketplace. The movement seeks to disrupt the processes, by gaming the system, in order to de-legitimatize government.

The rule is the commons are owned by all of us. They're not owned by the governor or the legislator or the coal companies and the utility. Everybody has a right to use them. Nobody has a right to abuse them. Nobody has a right to use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use and enjoyment by others. When they put the acid rain in the air, it destroys our forest, and it destroys the lakes that we use for recreation or outfitting or tourism or wealth generation. When they put the mercury in the air, the mercury poisons our children's brains, and that imposes a cost on us. The ozone in particular has caused a million asthma attacks a year, kills 18,000 people, causes hundreds of thousands of lost work days. All of those impacts impose costs on the rest of us that in a true free-market economy should be reflected in the price of that company's product when it makes it to the marketplace.

What those companies and all polluters do is use political clout to escape the discipline of the free market and to force the public to pay their costs. All of the federal environmental laws, every one of the 28 major environmental laws, were designed to restore free-market capitalism in America by forcing actors in the marketplace to pay the true cost of bringing their product to market.

environmentalists are like watermelons........greenies on the outside and red inside.....

i am one for reasonable regulations for clean air and water just like most people.....however i do not see how Obama's repressive environmental laws are "retoring free-market capitalism".....

on the other hand i see global doings that look like world socialism in the making......have you any idea as to what the "environmentalists" are really up to.......? have you ever heard of "sustainability....? or the "green world order".....?

wakey....wakey....

The Real Agenda Behind UN ?Sustainability? Unmasked

WOW, I am impressed with your article. Why bother with parrots like the Heritage Foundation, when you can bring one of the biggest polluters on the planet, the Koch brothers and the John Birchers, who want us out of the UN. And who called Dwight Eisenhower a 'commie'.

The real irony is what is really red inside is the tea party. Their model of environmental regulations is the Soviet Union; an environmental and nuclear threat to the planet. The teapublican House of Representatives has pushed through an astonishing 191 votes to weaken environmental protections.


NOW, name Obama's repressive environmental laws?

 

[GuyPinestra]

Oh Lookie!!

Another 'Bash the Christians' thread...

Carry on...